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Everyone wants to think that their car will be a future classic, and how could they be wrong? Each of our cars have something in some way shape or form that makes them special. I love to think that our V10 M5's will be a legend one day. I mean, that's partly why I bought one. It's such a radical car! Doe anyone else agree that they'll be a future classic, or that they'll fall short due to maintenance costs?
 

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I think the ones that are left after the junk yards get filled with wrecked ones, and ones with blown engines that people can't afford to fix. The ones left over specially low mileage well taken care examples should still be worth something. This is my plan to preserve and enjoy the beast for a long time.
 

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Very unlikely. BMW made way way way way too many e39 and e60 m5s, to become collectable. Based on production numbers, the e28 m5 is the only one with a chance.

e28 m5: 2,241
e34 m5: 12,254
e39 m5: 20,482
e60 m5: 20,589

Based on the production numbers I posted from bmwmregistry.com, a lot of e60s need to end up in junkyards -- either 1) totaled in an accident or 2) with blown SMGs or 3) catastrophic engine failure from rod bears or VANOS, to reduce the supply.

Furthermore, everyone on this board believes 1) SMGs are not a problem, and affects a very small percentage of e60s; and...if you believe 2) rod bearings only effect a very small percentage of catastrophic engine failure...then...

A lot of e60s need to get totaled, before the e60 can become a collectable.
 
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8800 E60 M5 were sold in the us, it will take a while, but at some point it will be rare in the US. Let see if Troy posts how many he has parted out so far.
 

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I guess I disagree; I think 1,760 cars per year for the US market is a very low production number. I have a '71 Charger R/T considered to be a rare car in the Mopar circles. That production for single year was just over 3,000 cars. I haven't seen one at a show in a long while now.

These are already far and few compared to modern day production numbers. I think the bigger question is will it be a desirable car in the future. My take is yes in the right circles, but not for the collectors as a whole. It is and never will be an exotic nor will it reach those levels in price. But for those that want a bespoke V10 in four door. They will be the ones willing in 10years. Unless we find an oil field the size of the pacific I think we will never see cars like we have seen in the last 10 years.

I truly believe if you were paying attention we just went through a modern day muscle car era. In thirty years when we're driving our hovercraft we'll look back on the Euro HP wars and the American one that followed with awe. And then we'll have just as many that will say, damn I wish I would have kept that car!

Or we're all wrong and the E60 will be forgotten just like an AMX.


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I think they will.. Esp this special V10 engine, and it was one of the last designed and built M engine!
 

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Plus only 1200-1300 were 6 speeds... I think the 6 speeds will be worth a bit more in the future.
And of the 6MTs, only 97 are Ingterlagos Blue in the US...I think 6 went up to our neighbors to the north. Monaco Blue and Indy Red 6MTs are like hen's teeth and even rarer.

I love my s85 and think it's a special engine. I hope I'm dead wrong with our cars being collectable, but the numbers are stacked against e60 owners.

My money is on the e28 m5...which is why I don't plan on selling my e28 m5 anytime soon. I'd dump my e39 and e60 m5 in a heartbeat -- as much as I love them. The reality is, the odds of me finding another clean e39 or e60 6MT is much much much much greater, than finding a clean e28. They only made 2241 e28 m5s in the ENTIRE production run.
 

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I'd be willing to bet that 25% of the cars are already in the junk yard at least. Doubt they will be a "collector," but nice clean low mileage cars will have some value for sure.
 

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Bias alert.

Something that seems fishy to me is what Hagerty had to say about the F10 M5. They called it a future classic. I just don't see this. I'm pretty sure BMW is making more of these than the E60 M5. How are the sales figures on these as compared to the E60? I could see E28, E39, E60 M5's being classic, but not so much the second gen M5 or F10. But then again, what do I know.

I've followed BMW all throughout my childhood until now which doesn't make me an expert or anything but I love the brand. Honestly, the F10 doesn't seem like that great a car, and call me wrong, but I don't feel as though there is anything that's really distinct or special about it. Powerful yes, but anything can be with the right amount of force fed induction. Sure it's luxurious and handles great, yada yada, but it doesn't seem as ridiculous as the E60. It didn't push the bar for anything. I may be looking at everything from a distance, but if I honestly had the choice between a brand new F10 and a slightly used E60, I'd choose the E60. Sure it's not a perfect car, and costs a lot in maintenance, but what kind of problems are we going to see in the F10 when warranties start running out? It just seemed like a special breed we will never see again. Does anyone agree?
 

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Agree, still haven't driven anything that hits all my buttons like the e60 does. Driving the new M3 and M4 tomorrow so we'll see if that changes.


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E60 M5 probably not.
However they only built around 1200 E61 M5's....if I remember correctly they built a similar number of e34 M5's also, and those seem to be holding their value very well, they may not be a classic yet but I'm pretty sure they will be. My point being the Tourings are a lot rarer and stand a higher chance of being classics.
 

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E60 M5 probably not.
However they only built around 1200 E61 M5's....if I remember correctly they built a similar number of e34 M5's also, and those seem to be holding their value very well, they may not be a classic yet but I'm pretty sure they will be. My point being the Tourings are a lot rarer and stand a higher chance of being classics.
I agreed that the Touring has a better chance of becoming a classic due to its rarity. Only 209 RHD cars were produced for the U.K. Here's a breakdown of the colours, sent to me by BMW U.K. for anyone who's interested: -

3 Alpine White
62 Black Sapphire
4 Special Request Paint Finishes
11 Indianapolis Red
40 Interlagos Blue
25 Monaco Blue
3 Sepang Bronze
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I wonder what the 4 Special Request Paint Finishes are? I've never seen anything other than the standard colours on the road or for sale.

Here's a quick pic of my car in relatively common Interlagos Blue!






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I personally see these cars (at least in the very near future & to some extent currently) as collectible but less so hugely valuable. Will they start to go up any time in the relatively near future? They very likely could as evident by the insane spike in price in the UK with the E28 M5. It may however take several years for them to become so, if at all. Looking at the way current car market is going with all these new hybrids, electric cars etc I could see an increase in demand for exotics & fun cars in general coming sooner rather than later. I sure as hell hope they increase in value, not that I'd ever sell mine. I bought my car because it's more than a bit of a modern legend as we all know and I can share its massive performance & character with my family on the weekends or on holidays. Doesn't get any better really. Maybe that'll catch up with more people as time carries on.

BMW M5 E28: Spotted - PistonHeads
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I wish they brought the e61 m5 to North America!

I agreed that the Touring has a better chance of becoming a classic due to its rarity. Only 209 RHD cars were produced for the U.K. Here's a breakdown of the colours, sent to me by BMW U.K. for anyone who's interested: -

3 Alpine White
62 Black Sapphire
4 Special Request Paint Finishes
11 Indianapolis Red
40 Interlagos Blue
25 Monaco Blue
3 Sepang Bronze
40 Silverstone II
21 Space Grey
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I wonder what the 4 Special Request Paint Finishes are? I've never seen anything other than the standard colours on the road or for sale.

Here's a quick pic of my car in relatively common Interlagos Blue!






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