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Hi everyone,

For a number of years I had a OEM boxed front Style 65 wheel in my goodies collection that I picked up along with some other parts. It was previously owned by a meticulous E39 M5 owner who had also purchased a full brand new set some years previously and were held as a spare set. This single front was used very lightly in so much it had a tyre fitted and it used to be taken with the car during the summer use it was out of storage and went on trips to Europe. He mentioned he'd only needed to actually use the wheel a handful of times. As the car was sold, the spare set of brand new wheels also sold, this spare was hanging around so I took it.

Purpose of this thread is for those guys who want/need a reference to see what a next to brand new OEM Style 65 wheel looks like and to give wheel refinishing specialists a visual representation. I took lots of pictures but unfortunately only with my phone's camera. I know this won't give a close to 100% accurate colour representation and of course, various computer monitors won't also show colours to that level of accuracy. What you will be able to see are the wheels markings around the barrel, the way the silver layer 'overlays' the black base layer of colour and also the barrel edge beading.






















The wheel I recently sold to another enthusiast who had issues with a refinishing specialist and was in bit of a pickle and needed a wheel fast!

You'll be able to see how the silver layer covers over the wheel lip and over the barrel by quite some margin. I believe the original finish is a black paint layer and then the silver paint layer over the top that's applied by hand and the reason for the shade variances is that new quantities of silver paint are mixed up per specific batch of wheels to be painted during the manufacturing finishing process. This particular wheel I think was one of the 'brighter' shades as I've seen next to new Style 65 sets and ones which haven't ever been refinished that were noticeably darker in shade. Just to also confirm this single wheel has never been refinished, touched up or had any abrasive cleaners etc used. The silver paint layer was very smooth indeed. I know an option is to have 'powder coat' finishes chosen when refinishing, but one downside with powdercoating is the slight 'orange peel' effect that is synonymous with the final result. For those wanting as close to OEM as possible, I'd say wheels need to be painted to reduce significantly, in comparison, the orange peel effect of powdercoating.

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Cheers, Dennis!
 

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Great thread Dennis. This will help for when the time comes for me to source a set of factory wheels for my car. I know when I do get some, they'll most likely need to be refinished. Bookmarking this thread. No worries about the pic quality. Thanks!

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Great thread Dennis. This will help for when the time comes for me to source a set of factory wheels for my car. I know when I do get some, they'll most likely need to be refinished. Bookmarking this thread. No worries about the pic quality. Thanks!

Sent from Germany with Love.
I may have missed it in Dennis' posts, but the official color is "shadow chrome".

As noted, the difficulty is in matching shades. One of the agent's in the paint was disallowed (at least in the U.S.) due to environmental concerns. So while there was a workaround to get the color, the batches weren't uniform. That was true when originally done as new wheels also, but the difference in shading was much less noticeable. As BMW NA has advised these (at least the rears) are NLA, most any rear wheel purchased will need refinishing. Advice is to get a spare wheel and have ALL of them done at the same time, so all 5 (or even 6) will match.

On this side of the pond, Price Wheels in North Carolina has done a bunch and is as good as any. Not sure if it makes sense for you with shipping and possible duties.

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Yeah I remember hearing about the paint and that it's very difficult to match. I may eventually try to source a second set of OEM wheels down the road for backup. Finding a complete set is already hard to come by now with everyone hoarding up the rears. Who knows how much harder they'll be to get in the next year or 2.

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I had my local dealer re-finish the wheels for me, and they did fantastic job in matching the color, sheen, shade, everything. They looked, felt, and sparkled just like the factory ones.
 

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Hi Dennis,

I just received delivery of a set of refinished OEM wheels and overall, I'm very happy with how they've turned out. That being said, I don't really have context for comparison to a near-perfect non-refinished OEM set like yours.

I bought OEM wheels and had them refinished through a refinishing / remanufacturing company. Each of the wheels are rears (9.5in) as I'm squaring out my M5s stance with some proper use of spacers (10mm in the back & 3mm up front).

One observation I am upset over is how the port for each wheel's valve stems aren't bored out thoroughly and contain fragmented remnants from the refinish job. No big deal as these portion of the wheel won't be exposed but I imagine this could've turned out better by simply paying more attention to detail.

There are also a few specs / 'micro-markings' that are indentured within the finish. I imagine some of these are small defects from the old OEM set that couldn't be completely smoothened out. However, the integrity of the coating/finish on top of these micro-specs is more important and they seem to have done a good job.

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gsfent - You're correct, I didn't 'actually' mention the name 'shadow chrome' in my initial post(s)! I'd say 99% of owners do know the Style 65's have that name for them though!

V8Flexn - Thanks for your pics! your wheels have been powdercoated and they've done a very good job overall! I've seen sets go out with much less of a uniform finish. The orange peel effect, the rougher bits in the valve hole and the small 'pimples' are giveaways of the powdercoat process. The 'pimples' are where an air bubble has popped as the powdercoat is melting, the orange peel effect is just how it is with powdercoat and paint is the same but that can be worked on later to reduce it.

Cheers, Dennis!
 
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Hi,

gsfent - You're correct, I didn't 'actually' mention the name 'shadow chrome' in my initial post(s)! I'd say 99% of owners do know the Style 65's have that name for them though!

V8Flexn - Thanks for your pics! your wheels have been powdercoated and they've done a very good job overall! I've seen sets go out with much less of a uniform finish. The orange peel effect, the rougher bits in the valve hole and the small 'pimples' are giveaways of the powdercoat process. The 'pimples' are where an air bubble has popped as the powdercoat is melting, the orange peel effect is just how it is with powdercoat and paint is the same but that can be worked on later to reduce it.

Cheers, Dennis!
Thanks for the feedback and insights! That's a relief to hear. I am slowly but surely coming around to understanding DIY-auto related to the M5. Those details are helpful.

I just received shipment of a set of spacers and i plan to get them put on this week or so.

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Nice thread as there seems to be a lot of people refinishing these lately and looking for cvorrect color/process and a good place to do them, I had a set done a couple weeks ago and also have a pair of rears on a car that were bought new two years ago when you could still get them. They're hard to match new and all look slightly different with some use, brake dust, and exposure to light and heat. Don't drive yourself nuts here as just a little change in lighting makes them look different too. I'll post a 2 year old "new" one next to my recently refinished ones in a couple days to help drive the insanity of shadow chrome
 

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@KRAM5 You bring up some good points - I'd love to see how yours turned out.

I noticed that mine don't have the same degree of luster as @DennisCooper original OEMs style 65s and I believe that's in part due to the powder coating process. I would like for that not to be the case in a perfect world but I am perfectly okay with how they've turned out with the coating, especially considering the added protection it'll offer through any inclement Chicago weather.

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Nice thread as there seems to be a lot of people refinishing these lately and looking for cvorrect color/process and a good place to do them, I had a set done a couple weeks ago and also have a pair of rears on a car that were bought new two years ago when you could still get them. They're hard to match new and all look slightly different with some use, brake dust, and exposure to light and heat. Don't drive yourself nuts here as just a little change in lighting makes them look different too. I'll post a 2 year old "new" one next to my recently refinished ones in a couple days to help drive the insanity of shadow chrome
Here's a freshly refinished one that I asked to have done a little darker next to a 2 year old new one on the car.
I prefer the darker on some car colors and think it looks less like standard or "brilliant silver" painted BMW wheels.
Really need to get tires on the set of refinished ones and put them on with pics taken in same light half hour apart but then again I have other things to do:)
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Love the eye candy in this thread. That Oxford Green paint with the bright shadow chrome and Michelin’s looks excellent. I don’t like the darker finish personally because it reminds me of the ever so present brake dust that is also a BMW trademark.
Recently I had a flat. Tire shop destroyed a perfect OE wheel. Good excuse to send the whole set and another to Prince. Thanks all for sharing and motivating me to get them in boxes.
 
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