[Lscman]

LATEST UPDATE

HI GUYS , here are some images of latest air - air IC installation and revised piping .

we are testing this new set up now and will have the finished kits available very soon ....

Excellent design revision! I am impressed.

 

[CA Automotive]

THANKS GUYS

as i have said , this conversion will NOT be released until we are 100 % happy with all aspects , whatever revisions are required along the way

regards to all :byebye:

 

[gra8fuldd ed]

Roy:

Any idea HOW MUCH that Cooler weighs ? It really apprears to be quite massive !

 

[CA Automotive]

LATEST NEWS !!

Dynoed at 554HP DIN / 6650 rpms (581Nm / 4260 rpm) today - new intercooler worked excellent and kept us below 33 degrees intake temps for the whole session, the curves are really good - even if the max hp is a bit lower than expected (this dyno never gives any "happy magazine figures")
the "whole concept" - drivability, power, torque is excellent; we are ready now to move on to manufacturing the pre-production kits.

Video of dyno session soon !

thanks

 

[Blue Thunder]

What exhaust setup does the test car have?

 

[EMPEROR]

Man this is taking a while.

emperor

LATEST NEWS !!

Dynoed at 554HP DIN / 6650 rpms (581Nm / 4260 rpm) today - new intercooler worked excellent and kept us below 33 degrees intake temps for the whole session, the curves are really good - even if the max hp is a bit lower than expected (this dyno never gives any "happy magazine figures")
the "whole concept" - drivability, power, torque is excellent; we are ready now to move on to manufacturing the pre-production kits.

Video of dyno session soon !

thanks

 

[CA Automotive]

hi

I believe the M5 is wearing an eisenmann exhaust.

 

[Blue Thunder]

Ok, so a car with headers would show more power?

 

[polshrk]

No more pre-production kits available right? just the Production ones?

Thanks

-p

 

[CA Automotive]

Ok, so a car with headers would show more power?

definately , the test car is standard other than back box .

So any volumetric increasing mods will increase power , such as :

- headers
- x pipe
- de cat or racing cats
- larger bore MAF
- larger bore throttle bodies
- remapping may be required if fitting most or all the above

Regarding promotional cost kits , we still have one left....let me know if you want it Polshrk

 

[Jayson]

33 degrees Celsius right? That seems awefull low compared to most boosted cars.

 

[CA Automotive]

33 degrees Celsius right? That seems awefull low compared to most boosted cars.

thats the whole point ....:15:

 

[Jayson]

thats the whole point ....:15:

Seems so low it's very hard to belive. As non intercooled boosted cars see 270 degrees f, so to get down that low i need to see some proof.

 

[CA Automotive]

here we go again Jayson ouich
As you are not even interested in a kit then why are you posting ?

I am sorry but your lack of real knowledge in these matters shines bright despite your previous assurances to the contrary .
Just for starters , you have not even asked where the intake temps were taken , and you are referring to a non intercooled car whereas ours has a huge I/ cooler on it .

If we have been honest enough to declare a lower power out put than we expected , why on earth would we BS about intake temps..?

Please learn the subject matter and also correct spelling before embarassing yourself further .

No doubt you will reply with your usual demeanor , but we really are not interested in entertaining your ego so will not be replying .

 

[Jayson]

here we go again Jayson ouich
As you are not even interested in a kit then why are you posting ?

I am sorry but your lack of real knowledge in these matters shines bright despite your previous assurances to the contrary .
Just for starters , you have not even asked where the intake temps were taken , and you are referring to a non intercooled car whereas ours has a huge I/ cooler on it .

If we have been honest enough to declare a lower power out put than we expected , why on earth would we BS about intake temps..?

Please learn the subject matter and also correct spelling before embarassing yourself further .

No doubt you will reply with your usual demeanor , but we really are not interested in entertaining your ego so will not be replying .

Dude I am not even trying to knock you don't go there. I mearly said its really low compared to most as most non boosted temps are in the 200 degree F area and intercooled around 130 degree F area. 33 degree celcius is under 100 degree F. As I said not knocking, just comenting. Relax for god sakes stop being so defensive. Your personal attack on my spelling does nothing to help your case. Why not just state how you where able to get such low temps, instead of personal attacks. AND ONCE MORE I have done boosted cars so I do know somthing dispite my lack of spelling.








Thank you come again! hmmm :byebye:

 

[gsfent]

LATEST NEWS !!

Dynoed at 554HP DIN / 6650 rpms (581Nm / 4260 rpm) today - new intercooler worked excellent and kept us below 33 degrees intake temps for the whole session, the curves are really good - even if the max hp is a bit lower than expected (this dyno never gives any "happy magazine figures")
the "whole concept" - drivability, power, torque is excellent; we are ready now to move on to manufacturing the pre-production kits.

Video of dyno session soon !

thanks

Can you convert DIN to SAE? Those look like HP at the crank, are you running on an engine dyno? If not, what are the rear wheel numbers? Thanks, great looking project, it is finally starting to come together!!
Regards,
Jerry

 

[gra8fuldd ed]

Jerry:

I believe that all the HP numbers CA has quoted so far have been Rear Wheel HP. To the best of my knowledge, CA-Auto has NOT removed the motor from this M5 in order to obtain Flywheel HP Numbers.

Any flywheel numbers that have talked about here has been using the basic foundation of the "Poor Man's Tech Rule." That would be anywhere from 15% to 25% Drive Train Loss! ... Depending on who you are talking to! I suppose it also depends on whose Dyno You are using.

 

[gsfent]

Jerry:

I believe that all the HP numbers CA has quoted so far have been Rear Wheel HP. To the best of my knowledge, CA-Auto has NOT removed the motor from this M5 in order to obtain Flywheel HP Numbers.

Any flywheel numbers that have talked about here has been using the basic foundation of the "Poor Man's Tech Rule." That would be anywhere from 15% to 25% Drive Train Loss! ... Depending on who you are talking to! I suppose it also depends on whose Dyno You are using.

Thanks. But SAE and DIN are pretty close, so if they are getting 554 rwhp, then they are in the 650 range at the crank, on a dynojet dyno (about 15% loss +/-). Now, that is pretty impressive if the motor will hold together.
Regards,
Jerry

 

[CA Automotive]

hi gs

I would love to claim that the BHP figs are at the wheels , but alas they are corrected flywheel figures . We were hoping for around 600 bhp , but we are settling on the lower figure in the interests of reliability and being able to bolt on the kit without need for internal modifications. Still , +150 ish bhp over stock is not too bad I think considering price and bolt on nature , would you agree ?
thanks

release of kits within 14 days if all goes to plan :wroom:

 

[gra8fuldd ed]

hi gs

I would love to claim that the BHP figs are at the wheels , but alas they are corrected flywheel figures . We were hoping for around 600 bhp , but we are settling on the lower figure in the interests of reliability and being able to bolt on the kit without need for internal modifications. Still , +150 ish bhp over stock is not too bad I think considering price and bolt on nature , would you agree ?
thanks ... release of kits within 14 days if all goes to plan :wroom:

That sort of sheds a little light on things.

Please ... I have a few appropriate questions:

#1) In case I missed it in this long thread ... -->>
What make and model Dyno are you using ??

#2) Did you DYNO this car PRIOR to any work being done to it?
(Hopefully you did to get a true baseline)

#3) If the answer to #2 is YES ... What were those numbers ... Both RWHP and Your Mathematical Flywheel Assumption Numbers ?? If No ... Too Bad !

#4) In achieving your latest Dyno Numbers ... -->>
Did you try to create an artificial Ram-Air Effect with FANS or some
other means? If YES ... HOW did you create that effect ?

#5) Since YOU arrived at your "Flywheel" assumption numbers "Mathematically"
... Can you please walk us through those steps how it was arrived at ?


So far ... It looks real good. Congrats :wroom: