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Hello all. This is my first time posting. I've lurked:cool_shades: around for awhile and after buying my E39 M5hiha last August, I figured it was time to join:flag:. My M5 has a prod. date of 11/99. The previous owner installed a widescreen monitor and Mk. III nav computer along with a Dice iPod kit. The car has DSP and M-Audio. I purchased a BM53 radio to replace the C43 radio that the prev. owner did not swap out. After connecting the new-to-old harness and the new-to-old antenna input, I get power from the 53 but no sound. Radio info shows up on the monitor but that's all. If I search for a station, the radio will not lock on to a station (no signal strength?). I get no sound from the tape deck nor my iPod as well. If I reconnect the C43, everything works as it should. I've searched several forums:dunno:, including our's but haven't found anything definitive.

Is there a way to check if the BM53 is bad? Does any have pics of the harnesses as they should be connected? I've found pics and videos of the harenesses and I have what is needed. I entered the service mode and the 53 is set to the US. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I know the connectors on the harnesses are designed to fit only one way (hmmm) to another specific connector. And I believe everything is connected properly. I'm really baffledhmmm.

Thanks again.
 

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No sound from the iPod or tape deck. If I reconnect the C43, everythings works as normal.
 

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There are also other harnesses you need to buy to make this work. They plug into the Roundpin to Flatpin harness. Check out BimmerNav for these. Or the dealer. - JT
Thanks. I have them already. I actually bought them before I got the BM53.
 

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If you have access to NavCoder with a suitable interface, you can do it yourself - otherwise its a trip to the dealer. I've seen some posts that reports issues with some DSP i. e. Phillips amplifiers and new generation radios but I dont know if that's true. If you have a Lear or a Loewe it should be allright anyway.
 

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The radio searches for the type of amp on startup. It can switch between dsp and non dsp with no issues. With the bm53 installed go to the tone menu what do you see? It's been a while since I played with this but I did a huge forklift retrofit in a 1999 540i a few years ago and no coding is necessary. The easiest thing to do is to fit the bm53 into another car. I bet the unit is bad though.
 

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Those are the ones I purchased.
I was afraid of that. I will echo the DSP compatibility issues with the BM53 - no direct experience with them. I might run into them soon when I upgrade the Radio in my 99 540iT w NAV/DSP to BM53 - which is why I am interested in this post.

When I did the BM53 Upgrade on my 2000 528iT with NAV/ No DSP I used the same harnesses you did. But when I hooked it all up I got no sound. Everything else worked just no sound from the speakers. I took it to a friend who does radio installs and he went into the harness that plugs into the Roundpin to Flatpin Harness (NOT THE AUX INPUT HARNESS) and had to move a pin to get the audio to work.

I am hoping that is all you may need to do. One of the sites I used to find out some of the answers I needed was www.bimmerboard.com in the Navigation section as well as the Audio sections. Search on BM53 Upgrade or Round Pin Radio and there are a couple of posts talking about the DSP compatibility and BM53. Take a look there and see what you find. It has been so long since I did my 528iT I seem to recall finding the answer there. I am about to embark on this same upgrade so I can add sirius on my 99 540iT which has DSP - so like I said - I am watching this post. - JT
 

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If you have access to NavCoder with a suitable interface, you can do it yourself - otherwise its a trip to the dealer. I've seen some posts that reports issues with some DSP i. e. Phillips amplifiers and new generation radios but I dont know if that's true. If you have a Lear or a Loewe it should be allright anyway.
Ok. I'll look into this. I greatly appreciate your time.
 

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The radio searches for the type of amp on startup. It can switch between dsp and non dsp with no issues. With the bm53 installed go to the tone menu what do you see? It's been a while since I played with this but I did a huge forklift retrofit in a 1999 540i a few years ago and no coding is necessary. The easiest thing to do is to fit the bm53 into another car. I bet the unit is bad though.
I hope the radio itself isn't bad. I'll try and get back to it tomorrow. I'll report back. Thank you again.
 

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I was afraid of that. I will echo the DSP compatibility issues with the BM53 - no direct experience with them. I might run into them soon when I upgrade the Radio in my 99 540iT w NAV/DSP to BM53 - which is why I am interested in this post.

When I did the BM53 Upgrade on my 2000 528iT with NAV/ No DSP I used the same harnesses you did. But when I hooked it all up I got no sound. Everything else worked just no sound from the speakers. I took it to a friend who does radio installs and he went into the harness that plugs into the Roundpin to Flatpin Harness (NOT THE AUX INPUT HARNESS) and had to move a pin to get the audio to work.

I am hoping that is all you may need to do. One of the sites I used to find out some of the answers I needed was www.bimmerboard.com in the Navigation section as well as the Audio sections. Search on BM53 Upgrade or Round Pin Radio and there are a couple of posts talking about the DSP compatibility and BM53. Take a look there and see what you find. It has been so long since I did my 528iT I seem to recall finding the answer there. I am about to embark on this same upgrade so I can add sirius on my 99 540iT which has DSP - so like I said - I am watching this post. - JT
Ok. Thanks. I'll check Bimmerboard.com as well as some other possible sources. I'll report back on how things turn out.
 

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I'm pretty sure you do not need to code the DSP for BM53, this only needs to be done for full Nav retrofits (i.e. DSP is expecting MID but cannot find it)... The one thing i remember from my retrofit, was that the adjustment of pins for non radio sources (tape/CD) was not intuitive and i had to do a lot of searching to have these wired correctly. Bimmerboard e38 forum was incredibly helpful for this.

Another thing to pay attention to is the combination of MKIII and BM53, my understanding of the BM53 was that it required a MKIV to function properly (this may have just been a sirius issue though)
 

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I'm pretty sure you do not need to code the DSP for BM53, this only needs to be done for full Nav retrofits (i.e. DSP is expecting MID but cannot find it)... The one thing i remember from my retrofit, was that the adjustment of pins for non radio sources (tape/CD) was not intuitive and i had to do a lot of searching to have these wired correctly. Bimmerboard e38 forum was incredibly helpful for this.

Another thing to pay attention to is the combination of MKIII and BM53, my understanding of the BM53 was that it required a MKIV to function properly (this may have just been a sirius issue though)
I was told that if one uses the widescreen, wether Mk.III or Mk.IV, you need the BM53 as the C43 was the radio for the small screen (Mk.I and Mk.II) nav. With the C43 and widescreen, I cannot bring up PYT or RDS features for the radio. With BM53, I could bring up those radio functions on the widescreen.
 

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upgrade radio C43 to BM53 adapters needed

I was told that if one uses the widescreen, wether Mk.III or Mk.IV, you need the BM53 as the C43 was the radio for the small screen (Mk.I and Mk.II) nav. With the C43 and widescreen, I cannot bring up PYT or RDS features for the radio. With BM53, I could bring up those radio functions on the widescreen.
Someone told you wrong on PTY and RDS. I have a C43 and MK III in my 2001 and I just verified both PTY and RDS work fine.

I am having other problems (radio/ipod shutting off and coming back on every few minutes) and am trying troubleshoot. To eliminate the C43 as the problem I want to replace it and see if the problem persists. I happen to have a BM53 laying around so I am very interested in how your swap turns out. Did you get it to work?


BTW, I asked the nice people at bimmernav about the adapters needed to go from C43 to BM53 and they replied:

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BMW Old to new Adapter
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This Modified assembly of BMW harnesses is the easy and quick solution for retrofitting the latest BMW navigation radio in a 2001 and earlier BMW with the old style "round pin" radio (C43) to the latest BM53 (or BM54 Euro) radio.

This harness has the proper wires moved and includes a BMW 6 pin audio connection perfect to support Sirius, MP3 Cd changer and Ipod.

With this adapter harness upgrading a 2001 and Earlier E39, E39, X5 with DSP amp is a simple and straight forward plug and play process

$159.00
 
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