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So, I finally got around to installing my F10 M5 shift knob! I followed some of the other guys DIY threads on here and attempted to use the F10 shift boot with my E39 base plate. BIG MISTAKE! Not only does the F10 M5 shift boot not fit at all (sure, you can make it fit with tons of stretching, but even then it looks crappy at best), but even if you do get it to fit it just doesn't look right.

Instead I used my E39 shift boot and glued it to the F10 collar that clips into the shift knob itself. The end result is factory fit and finish! It looks spectacular, and the lighting is a dead on match for the stock interior lighting color.

I never knew what the hype was about with these ZHP weighted shift knobs, but now I finally get it! The shifts seem to be much easier and smoother to say the least, I absolutely love it!

Anyways, here's some pictures!
 

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Nice! Good idea on using the E39 boot instead of the F10 boot. So did you retain the E39 stick or put the E60 stick in that so many do? I put the E60 stick in one of my cars and now it pops out of reverse sometimes. The E60 stick is shorter below the pivot ball so less travel gets transferred to the selector rod. I'm going to replace my motor mounts and see if that improves things.
 

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Very nice refresh to your knob and boot there!

Preferences and opinions aside, it only took me 10 minutes of stretching the f10 boot by hand to get it to fit onto the e39 trim a few years ago. Still holding up just fine.
 

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Very nice refresh to your knob and boot there!

Preferences and opinions aside, it only took me 10 minutes of stretching the f10 boot by hand to get it to fit onto the e39 trim a few years ago. Still holding up just fine.
Any pics? Wanting to do this for s while but have put off by reports of the base popping of in 6th and/or reverse. Some way it dies not if you don't fold the leather around the bezel and just go so far that the edge is hidden when clipped in place.
I hope this makes sense
 

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I used the E60 short shifter along with my setup, it makes a big difference.

The F10 boot can fit, but even after stretching it out its still very, very tight. I highly suggest the E39 boot for what it's worth.
 

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Any pics? Wanting to do this for s while but have put off by reports of the base popping of in 6th and/or reverse. Some way it dies not if you don't fold the leather around the bezel and just go so far that the edge is hidden when clipped in place.
I hope this makes sense
I did not take pictures during the process of installing the shifter, but I do know that I stretched the leather by hand by pulling on the leather in both directions, moving around the entire boot several times. Think of a pizza man pulling dough but instead of using your palms or fists, grabbing it by your fingers and pulling hard while working your way around the boot. There will be no visual verification that it is being opened up, but I just did this to ensure that it would be large enough to wrap around the trim ring. When I wrapped it around the ring, I barely did so and held it in place with simple crazy glue, making sure that the bond was strong and tight.

Yes the boot gets tight in certain gears (and I never use 6th but have tested to make sure it does not pop out) but I have never had issues leading me to have to push the boot back into place.
 

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Looks awesome - something I must definitely do. How difficult was it to fit the e60 short shifter?
It wasn't hard at all and it's definitely a worthwhile upgrade.

I've never compared the E60 short shifter to something like the UUC short shifter, but I'd be curious to know how much better (if any) a real 'kit' like the UUC one is when compared to the E60 shifter.
 

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what glue did you use?
 

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I'm glad the illumination on these looks proper. In days past, the illuminated knobs always used to be a little off when it came to color. Makes a world of difference that its a dead-on color match now. Looks great!
 

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For some reason when a lot of the guys post pictures of their swap the lighting on the knob looks more 'yellow'. I can confirm that the lighting on the F10 knob isn't yellow at all, it's pretty much a dead on match for the interior lighting on the E39 M5. The only slight difference might have to do with the fact that these are brand new LEDs in the shift knob whereas the LEDs in the rest of the car are 14 or so years old.

Not sure if LEDs can slightly change color over time or not.
 

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It wasn't hard at all and it's definitely a worthwhile upgrade.

I've never compared the E60 short shifter to something like the UUC short shifter, but I'd be curious to know how much better (if any) a real 'kit' like the UUC one is when compared to the E60 shifter.
I'm interested in a UUC comparison as well. I really do hate the plastic bushings on the OEM shifters. If I could just replace that one part with something metallic I would be happy. I'm not sure if the UUC SS kit is worth it considering I'm happy with the E60 throw.
 

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For some reason when a lot of the guys post pictures of their swap the lighting on the knob looks more 'yellow'. I can confirm that the lighting on the F10 knob isn't yellow at all, it's pretty much a dead on match for the interior lighting on the E39 M5. The only slight difference might have to do with the fact that these are brand new LEDs in the shift knob whereas the LEDs in the rest of the car are 14 or so years old.

Not sure if LEDs can slightly change color over time or not.
Compared to other sources of illumination, LEDs experience virtually no color shift. The differences you note have nothing to do with LEDs changing color in time and everything to do with different knobs being used. The old shift knobs, from the era when the E39 was new, either came with reddish illumination that was a shade or two darker, or some models or aftermarket options were a bit too yellow.

The F10 M5 was the first OEM knob to actually match the color properly.
 

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Looks great! Might be a stupid question, but how did you separate the stock boot from the knob? Just cut it? Then glued to the new knob?
 

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Looks great! Might be a stupid question, but how did you separate the stock boot from the knob? Just cut it? Then glued to the new knob?
It's actually pretty easy. You've got to break two little tabs on the underside of the knob, then the boot will detach, but not before you get the two wires out of their respective 'holes' in the shift boot collar. It's hard to explain what I'm saying without pictures, but once you see it you'll know exactly what I mean. I used a fine exact knife (hobby grade) and a very steady hand, and cut the wires loose from the plastic.

Once that's done you can peel the old boot (it's glued on) away from the collar (white plastic piece). Once that's done you can glue it to your old E39 boot.

I'm making it sound complicated, but once you get into the knob you'll see it's actually very easy and self-explanatory.
 

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Looks awesome Chris! I think your set-up with the E60 shifter and that particular knob is great. I really want to drive an M5 with the E60 shifter. I've driven two with the UUC shifters with the DSSR, and I liked it, but I am curious what the E60 shifter feels like! I think that was a really nice upgrade and it looks much better than the stock knob your car came with, especially since it is leather now instead of wood. Enjoy it in good health!
 

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Looks awesome Chris! I think your set-up with the E60 shifter and that particular knob is great. I really want to drive an M5 with the E60 shifter. I've driven two with the UUC shifters with the DSSR, and I liked it, but I am curious what the E60 shifter feels like! I think that was a really nice upgrade and it looks much better than the stock knob your car came with, especially since it is leather now instead of wood. Enjoy it in good health!
Thanks! I too am curious what the UUC shifter feels like in comparison with the E60 shifter. The UUC shifter is damn spendy, so unless it's worlds better than the E60 shifter that would be a hard sell to me!
 
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