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Hi there,

I'm so glad to show you my latest addition to my M family - one of the last E36 :) Sedan body from last production year in unique paintwork. Mileage - 82300. Have minor rock chips on bumper but for now i've decided to keep it as is.
Maybe by next month i'll respray bumper to get rid of them.

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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>VIN long </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>WBSCD91070EX74150 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>Dev. series </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>E36 (4) </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>Prod. date </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>1997-05-07 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>302 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>ALARM SYSTEM </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>411 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>WINDOW LIFTS, ELECTRIC </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>431 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>458 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>SEAT ADJUSTMENT, ELECTRIC. F DRIVER/PASS </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>498 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>HEADRESTS IN REAR, MECHANIC. ADJUSTABLE </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>502 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>209 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL (25%) </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>314 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>HEATED WINDSCREEN WASHER NOZZLES </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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</TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>710 </TD><TD class=a8b noWrap>M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL </TD></TR><TR><TD height=1>
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Shoots after/within detailing session by local detailer (pictures from detailing session - i'll update thread soon) of her beauty :)










Enjoy =)
 

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What a fantastic looking e36. I think the saloon / sedan is a total sleeper like the e39 m5's baby brother. Low miles, the best colour in estoril blue, with the nice wood interior trim too. I almost bought a similar car in the uk earlier in the spring.

I wish you well with the car. I am sure it will be another gem from the BMW m team.

Cheers

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Wow wow wow. The BMW M3 3,2 321 HP was so special in the days, I had an Hellrot I drove from 40 000 km to 100 000 without any problems, raced so many cars and had so much fun, F355, RS4, M5 E39 etc. With a chip only it is a VERY fas tcar and launches fast. It is SO fun and SO underestimated these days.

I beleive they manufactured the M3 Sedan until September 2007? I love BMW M3 Sedan and think it looks so much better than the Coupe, also the new generation E90. That is why I have a BMW M3 Sedan :D now as well, see here: YouTube - G-Power BMW M3 GTS SKII Club Sport Sporty Drive, X5 M Typhoon, M6 SKIII RR and BMW M3 Sedan
 

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Wow wow wow. The BMW M3 3,2 321 HP was so special in the days, I had an Hellrot I drove from 40 000 km to 100 000 without any problems, raced so many cars and had so much fun, F355, RS4, M5 E39 etc. With a chip only it is a VERY fas tcar and launches fast. It is SO fun and SO underestimated these days.

I beleive they manufactured the M3 Sedan until September 2007? I love BMW M3 Sedan and think it looks so much better than the Coupe, also the new generation E90. That is why I have a BMW M3 Sedan :D now as well, see here: YouTube - G-Power BMW M3 GTS SKII Club Sport Sporty Drive, X5 M Typhoon, M6 SKIII RR and BMW M3 Sedan

Thanks for nice words on E36. Astonishing GTS, perfect E90 and E63/X6 as well.
Do you remember/have any dyno graphs for remapping/chip you mentioned above?
 

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I rememebr it all from my head: gain of 30 HP I beleive, revving to 79000 RPM. Done at Kelleners Sport:

The ultimate BMW M5 journey through Europe



So we dynoed my M3 3,2 Euro first. This should have 321 HP stock. It turned out on the Dyno (that was a Bosch Dyno) that it had 308 HP. So it almost falls within car manufacturers +/- 3% error margin when stating power. It should have 311 HP if it was 3% less than 321 HP. But I was delighted to find out that the torque was 365 Nm instead of the standard 350 Nm. So this was as much as the E46 M3's torque. Anyhow, after that we chipped my car.

An explanation of the advantages as I see it with chip tuning is that you customize every individual aspect of the electronics software to your unique engine. As every engine is unique every software component must also be programmed according to your individual engine. But BMW cannot do this because this would take too much time. So they probably have a program that is based on statistical data of the engines produced and the general software is a average or median of the engines produced.

Anyhow, after chipping we dynoed it again and it had an amazing 338 HP and 388 Nm of torque which is alot for a small displacement of 3,2 liter. 8 Nm more than a Ferrari F355 that is :)

So now it's time to dyno the second BMW E36 3 series... the B8 4,6 Touring. The B8 4,6 liter engine is based on the non VANOS old 540i engine that Alpina has modified to produce 333 HP. The engine is the same that is mounted in the E34 5 series B10 4,6 and the -'99 E39 5-series B10 V8 with no VANOS. The reason the B8 has 333 HP instead of 340 is because the exhaust manifold of the B8 is different from the E34 B10 4,6 5-series. This is the very same reason why the current 2001 M Coupé and M Roadster have 325 HP instead of 343 HP as in the E46 M3.
 

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I love BMW M3 Sedan and think it looks so much better than the Coupe
When i was looking for buying the M3, i was looking for the coupe but also the sedan. I love the sedan because it's a wolf in sheeps clothing, but i choice the coupe because it looks sportier, has bigger front door so i can step in/out easier, and has better aerodynamics because the front is longer and the windshield is mounted on a smaller angle.

I also love the vader seats of the coupe.



The M3 3.2 e36 is indeed SO underestimated these days, i tested the acceleration with my HTC Desire HD phone. I had installed the program Car Performance wich works with GPS sat. and G-Force sensor.



(total run time was 30s but didn´t pulled until 30s, my buddy couldn´t find the STOP button ouich )
 

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I rememebr it all from my head: gain of 30 HP I beleive, revving to 79000 RPM. Done at Kelleners Sport:
Only Mpowers can do 79000rpm :grinyes:
Such big improvement was done to your car just with remap, not touching intake/exhaust ? Wow, time to go to Kelleners Sport for me :D
 

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A great car in great condition. It's always nice to see examples of older M's so well maintained.

Enjoy :cheers:
 

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Erik it's a little weird to me that you did 12,4 on 1/4. It's rather E60/M5 time than E36/M3. My friend today with E61/M5 did 12,45 measured on dragstrip... with better device than mobile phone. I wish E36 to do such time, but i think your measure was a little too optimistic. But it does not matter.

Soon i'll post gallery of my another very special E36/M3.
 

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Erik,

I would say 13.13,5 s is realistic on the quartermile and also 18-20 (closer to 20 s) 0-200 km/h for the M3 3,2, esp. a chipped one.

I remember I raced a 355 HP E55 AMG 5-10 times 100-260 km/h on my qay home from the above trip and they where identical. And a E55 AMG 355 HP does around 19 s best time 0-200 km/h.

Also, I remember my friends BMW M3 3,2 Hartge 3,5 with the large Hartge engine kit and 350 HP did 17,8 s to 0-200 km/h any day witha pro vericom measurement equipment.

BYW I have see na BMW M3 3,2 Indivdual with Vader seats :D And also isnt the frontal area of the BMW M3 Sedan smaller than the M3 Coupe and also the rigidity better thanks to frames around the windows ;)

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You're probably right Gustav ;)
I don't know how accurate this application is, but 12,5s at the 1/4mile isn't possible with a stock M3 3.2. e36.

Here's a dyno graph of a run i did:


On another dyno the car reached 365Nm and also 325HP.

I once reached 293km/h GPS verified, not bad for a stock M3 :D

 

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What a great picture. I love the whole family together in blue. I have been thinking lately of how much I miss my e36. There is an Estoril M3/2 for sale in the US with only 75k miles mostly original at a good price. Need more garage space. You guys outside the US are so lucky to have been able to drive the euro motor in these cars. I would love to have one with that engine and the 6 speed.

Anymore pictures of the whole family together. They all look fantastic together. Thanks for posting.
 
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BYW I have see na BMW M3 3,2 Indivdual with Vader seats :D And also isnt the frontal area of the BMW M3 Sedan smaller than the M3 Coupe and also the rigidity better thanks to frames around the windows ;)

Gustav
Guess it was fantasy of owner. 4 screws and coupe's seat is in saloon.
 

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WO! Erik, that must be downhill? Confess ;)

I beleive my had 360 or 365 Nm stock as well but then 388 after cip and raised rev limiter :D I remember I felt the difference already in the parking spot :D
 
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