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Has anybody been to the M5 Driving School down at the factory in S.C.? I really want to attend, just trying to come to terms with the price, $3650!! :mad: So, can anyone provide input please!!!!!
Thanks!! I love this board!!!! :typing:
 

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I attended the M5 Driving Expperience at the BMW Performance Center. It was like a 1 day M school but is no longer available. They run a first class school that's a great experience. The M school would teach a great deal about car control, using the safety systems (DSC, ABS, etc), and performance driving techniques. It is not a racing school. The advanced M school assumes you know the first two items and teaches advanced performance driving techniques. I think it costs even more. I do not know what cars they currently use. It is possible the e39 M5 use is about ended but they may continue to use it until the e60 M5 is out.

Now for the question if it's worth the cost. I think the cost covers food, lodging, and a helmet. Many schools do not. If you have no performance driving experience, it will help your driving technique a lot and make you safer on normal highways. The instuctors are great and can focus 1 on 1. With a club event at a track, you use your own car, wear out tires and brakes, and risk a costly repair if you "oops". Plus, you never know how good of an instructor you'll get. If you already have track or performance driving experience, a racing school (Skip Barbor, Darek Dailey, etc) may be better.

FYI, the folks at the BMW PC are very helpful and can answer any question. Per the BMW web site, the number is 888-345-4269
 

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IMHO the AMS and the M Driving School are worth it- consider what you get for the cost: room & board + transport to and from the event + meals + the event itself: use of their cars, their clutches and brakes, their tires, and of course their instructors. I can only imagine the insurance cost. Expensive in the abstract, yes, but IMHO its not that expensive when you consider what you get. The AMS will still use the E39 M5 for skidpad work. They use the E46 M3 for the faster stuff.
 

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I attended the 2 day Advanced Skills School 2 years ago. They use 330 automatics. First rate facility and instructors. Some classroom instruction , but the majority is seat time with the instructors coaching via radio. The first thing they tell you " It's not your car" so drive it hard . Cost was <$800 , but did not include dinner or lodging. Breakfast and lunch are provided as well as transportation from the airport, if you decide to fly. I included the school in a vacation to N. Mrytle Beach. Spartanburg was only a 3.5 hrs drive. This school also included an X5 driving experience . The Perfromance Center has an off road obstacle course. At the end of the school, they offer a "buffet". The class members pick 5 cars to drive on the track. Our class picked a M5, M3 w/SMG, M coupe, X5 4.6 and a 745. They had Z8s there, but they were strickly off limits. At the time, I had a 540 and my instructor noticed that I was always checking out the M5s ( they had one of every color ). He told me to hang around after the first day's class ended. After everyone else left, he told me to pick a M5 from the line and we jumped in and buckled up. He then proceeded to demonstrate the capabilities of an M5 on the track. Then he allowed me to take a few hot laps. It was at that moment, I knew I had to get one.
I arrived a half a day early and went over to the Perfromance School after taking a tour of the manufacturing facility( highly recommended) . The first day of a M school was being conducted . One the instructors told me the the 2nd day, they take the M5s to a nearby tire manufacturers track for the high speed ( >100mph) portion of the class.
After my experience, I would say you definately get what you pay for and it is well worth it. I was actually sore on the drive home after the 2 days and I had a grin frozen in my face for about a week.
To bad, BMW does not offer a discounted M school to CPO owners.
 

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Two years ago, I, along with boardmembers RM5 and Wayne, were the lucky few who signed up to the 1-day driving school at a very affordable price (think it was around $300) with one of the local BMW CCA chapters which had space left in their group. This was thanks to information posted by another member (thanks Max!), so we took advantage by signing up very quickly.

Thoughts about the trip posted within this thread...
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34059

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I seemed to recall that this class was offered free when I bought my M5 5 years ago. At the time, I was racing SCCA, HSR, and SVRA, so I passed, having been given the impression that it might be something less than unrestrained track time.

Went to Bondurants advanced class instead. Thoroughly destroyed a set of tires a day. That's my kind of track day! :haha2:

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mach5 said:
It was at that moment, I knew I had to get one.
Heh, when I did the 2 day M School I owned an e46 M3. I had the same feeling about the M5 by the end of the class. I wonder how many M cars this class "sells"? The class was fantastic, worth every penny. To me, it was important to get to know the limits of a car identical to mine without actually having to abuse my own car.
 

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I seemed to recall that this class was offered free when I bought my M5 5 years ago. At the time, I was racing SCCA, HSR, and SVRA, so I passed, having been given the impression that it might be something less than unrestrained track time.

Went to Bondurants advanced class instead. Thoroughly destroyed a set of tires a day. That's my kind of track day! :haha2:

Steve

It was free to those that bought their car new within 1 yr of purchase. all other have to pay. Also I thought the 3500 buck one was the 2nd more advanced school here in charlotte at lowes motorspeedway, but maybe they just ask the same amount.
 

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Like Mach5, I attending the 2 day Advanced Driving Skills class a few years ago. At the time I had a 530 but after driving the M5 during the course of the class, I also knew I had to have one. (So it actually turned out to be a bit more expensive...)

You might consider this class before jumping into the M class. It's much less expensive, loads of fun, and teaches you many basic and advanced skills. Then, if you enjoy it and master the techniques...off to the M school!
 

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Thanks for all the replies!! I have gone ahead and purchased a spot in the September M school at Spartensburg S.C.. I know there are probably cheaper ways, but since I now have my own M5 I feel I need as much training as I can get.

Anyway, getting to use there cars and not mine has to be a great way to do it!!!:M5launch: :M5rev:

Take care!
 

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rodman31 said:
Thanks for all the replies!! I have gone ahead and purchased a spot in the September M school at Spartensburg S.C.. I know there are probably cheaper ways, but since I now have my own M5 I feel I need as much training as I can get.

Anyway, getting to use there cars and not mine has to be a great way to do it!!!:M5launch: :M5rev:

Take care!
I attended the M School last October. In one word.......fantastic. Lucky me, the school class was joined by Joey Hand of the team BMW PTG racing group. This guy can drive, but I digress....I think it was the best $3650 I have ever spent on auto related endeavors. I would like to go each year just to keep my skills sharp. I now own (owned the E46 M3 at the time) a 2004 E46 M3 and a 2002 E39 M5. Lucky me, again.

In a word for those of you on the fence about this school.....go!

Power on.
 

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When I bought my '02 BMW paid for me and a friend to go the M5 school in December 2002. It was great. They covered everything bit airfare. Got to use their M5's on the track( I even put one in a ditch and they did not care) . One driver spun out on the wet course and the car reversed but he did not engage the clutch and the engine froze. ( Don't buy these cars!!) The second day we took Z4's through a icy narrow route led by a race driver in a X5 4.6 to North Carolina. It was a great time.
 

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rodman31 said:
Thanks for all the replies!! I have gone ahead and purchased a spot in the September M school at Spartensburg S.C.. I know there are probably cheaper ways, but since I now have my own M5 I feel I need as much training as I can get.

Anyway, getting to use there cars and not mine has to be a great way to do it!!!:M5launch: :M5rev:

Take care!
Rodman31,

Have you the contact details ie address and telephone numbers of the school? I am looking for a buzz and a bit of driver training and am going to miss the school at the Nurbergring in August. I need to find some school that has more regular courses that I can fit artound my schedule.

Pip
 

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Pip,

The phone number where they take the reservations is 888-345-4269, it is toll free if dialed from the US and as it happened to me, you may find a problem in calling from abroad. One of the girl's contact information at the Performance Center is:
Diane L. Nevelle
Driver Training & Events Manager
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<ST1:pLACE w:st="on"><ST1:pLACETYPE w:st="on"></ST1:pLACETYPE></ST1:pLACE>1155 Hwy. 101 South
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I took the M School last summer and enjoyed every piece of it. When compared to the Porsche Driving School in Alabama yes it is more expensive but it covers insurance and some extras. There are two driving intensive days and the seat time is just great, you always have a car for yourself and throughout the different exercises you get to use all of the cars (M5 + M3).

As many of those not fortunate enough to attend the M5 expereince after buying the car, I decided to go to to test the limits of the M cars (at that time, I had just bought me an E46 M3 SMG to pair with an E39 M5). I surely enjoyed my time there and learned a few tricks that I then started practicing at home (well almost all of those). The facilities are state of the art and the instructors are really friendly.

I'm a repeat offender since I'm going to the Advanced M School this fall, there is a special session which will be held at VIR (Virginia International Raceway), immediately after the Rolex Grand Am race so we will have the chance to look at the BMW PTG race team.;) It is confirmed that the cars to be used will be the E39 M5 and now the E46 M3 with a shift, SMG's and also, the one with the Competition Package.
 

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Ill look forward to meeting you there :thumbsup:

I am hoping, although I think it will not happen, that they will have an E60 M5 for us to try...
 

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It would be a great suprise to test one of the E60 M5 :flag:

Are you attending to the first session (Monday & Tuesday)?
 

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It would be a great suprise to test one of the E60 M5 :flag:

Are you attending to the first session (Monday & Tuesday)?
When I purchased the class they told me Sept 26, was sign in day and that I could check in at the hotel anytime. The next 2 days are when the actual class takes place. I plan on touring the factory on Monday and driving around a little in the "Beast".:hihi: I am very excited!! Don't forget the camera!!
 
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