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Hello I am looking for some advice on two cars I am interested in.

The first is a 1991 3.6 102k it has a mixture of main dealer history until 2001, and then high end car dealer 2002, main dealer 2005, garage not specialist 2009, and just had approx £2k of work at a specialist done.

The second is a 1992 3.8 110k full main dealer history until 2003 when it was serviced at 109,700 miles so has done 300 miles in the last 8 years approx. It has just had a full service at the garage that has the car for sale (not specialist)

I have not viewed either as yet but am going to see at least one this weekend. Both are claimed to be in very good condition. Would the history of either put you off? Would you get an inspection done as part of the purchase? I have been quoted £200.00 by a main dealer for a 124 point check, is this worth it.

I would appreciate any thoughts and advice.


Many thanks,


Rob
 

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Unless you know these cars (e34 M5's that is) very, very well, spring for the inspection. Hopefully they will be able to alert you to any issues that aren't immediately obvious. Finding one such item could easily pay for the cost of the inspection.

I'm sure, if you were to search the board, that you would find a host of useful advice on purchasing one of these magnificent machines.

Best of luck, should you decide to make a purchase!
 

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300 miles in 8 years ??
Is this proven by mot certificates ?

An independant inspection is never a bad idea however
do your own investigation work with the paperwork.

Start with mot's mileage matching servicing mileage paperwork.
Then dig a little deeper...beyond regular oil servicing you're
looking for evidence the car has had valve clearance checks
at reasonable intervals.

Given the age of our cars now 100'000 miles is actually quite low,
so look out for gaps in the history when the vehicle was say, 4-8 years old
that may indicate potential early clocking.


Best of luck,


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Personally I'd lean towards the 3.8 (nothing to do with the fact that I have one) because it is potentially more car. That said, 300 miles in 8 years would raise suspicion and even if true would probably mean replacing a lot of rubber tubes sooner rather than later. Seals would also be suspect. 3.8's need to be driven and serviced. You'd definitely be advised to ask someone with a very good knowledge of E34 M5's to look at it.

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So put my stone in. First of all. paper work and certificates mean nothing....I mean absolutly nothing unless it's doen by person who knows these cars and papers explicitly tell you what has been done and with what materials. See here's your very first basic inspectionlist besides the "normal" thing you would check on any car. I'm not gonna bother you with that:)

1) Start engine when cold with hood open and listen very sharp to the first 5 or so seconds. Any ratles in the first seconds would indicate a bad OEM chain tensioner
2) Check oilpann front an rear engine / tranny for oil leaks. No doubt there is but it's the amount that makes you wonder. Cause: oilpan gasket, crankshaft seals front an rear, chaintensioner and any other tube that is connected to the oil circuit.
3) Check idle speed (has to be 950 and stable..no ups and downs). If not possible indication of: any leak in the intake (seals). throttle boddies out of sync, vacuum hoses for brake in 4-th 5-th cylinder.
4) Now drive it and check water temp. Temp increase to normal rather quickly compared to normal cars. Has to be just before 12:00 oçlock. If not. indication cooling problem, faulty thermostat or anything else inthe cooling.
5) Check vacuum hoses for the whoel intake. Easiest one to access is on top of the plenum (which is the morst important because it moves to intake valve for extra midrange torgue). Feel the rubber. If it feels rather stiif then soft..it's gone. You need to replace the lot under the plenum.
6) Suspension: Check dash for EDC inactive warning. Don't get excited when there is no warning. This does not mean the system works although it is an indication that the sensors work. Unfortunatly that is the easy and cheap part of the EDC system. Check the shocks for any leakage trails both front and rear. Check the power steering reservoir (left front engine bay). This reservoir is also for the SLS on the rear. Fluid must be greenish (pentosin CH11-S). If brown or filty then chance the rear EDC are gone to but not neccessarily.
7) Steering: Main problem is the steering box itself. All the rest can be replaced easily for a fair price but not the steeringbox. These boxes tend to have play when new (due to the concept) but certainly have play after 100.000 km. Mine had enormous play. So much that it was actually dangerous to drive it.....

As I said I'm not gonna bother you with the standard and usual stuff besides the fact that the M parts are rather exepnsive but you problably knew that already.....

On this board you'll finds of threads and help to get you sorted. it just a matter of what you can expect with these cars and then only one answers remains:

You can expect everything and anything and it IS fun!

Good luck
 

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Have you looked at either car yet Rob ?

I would typically be wary of E34 M5s that haven't been driven much .

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Id rather buy a 175k E34 M5 than a 75k M5. When cars sit, things start to rot. Brake caliper seals, everything rubber, bearings get stiff, rust forms in places it normally wouldnt, etc.

A well-loved (and driven) car will be less headaches than a garage-queen that's sat for years.
 

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While that may be true, people always have and always will pay a premium for low mileage garage queens.

Look at that 91 US car with 28k miles that sold for upwards of $26,000 a couple weeks back.
 

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Have you looked at either car yet Rob ?

I would typically be wary of E34 M5s that haven't been driven much .

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No not yet hoping to at the end of this week. I am waiting for some further information on one of the cars and the owner of the other is currently away.


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While that may be true, people always have and always will pay a premium for low mileage garage queens.

Look at that 91 US car with 28k miles that sold for upwards of $26,000 a couple weeks back.
I understand - perception is reality to a lot of buyers. However, having bought a car with ultra-low mileage, I can say from firsthand experience that it was a complete nightmare.
 
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