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happy xmas all. just got my carbon black 200 m5 and love it even though i cant drive it as the snow keeps it from leaving the car park! Im sure this has been asked many times but i want to try and get the right info. I would like to upgrade to 16:9 and add ipod connection so my question is can I use any of the 16:9 head units to upgrade? do I have to upgrade the nav unit/dvd drive? not bothered about tv as mine has annalogue anuhow so useless! Im guessing I need the alpine kca unit and intravee 2 and maybe a dsp converter? quite like the idea of the dynavin unit but im not sure thats as easy as it looks! thanks guys
 

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happy xmas all. just got my carbon black 200 m5 and love it even though i cant drive it as the snow keeps it from leaving the car park! Im sure this has been asked many times but i want to try and get the right info. I would like to upgrade to 16:9 and add ipod connection so my question is can I use any of the 16:9 head units to upgrade? do I have to upgrade the nav unit/dvd drive? not bothered about tv as mine has annalogue anuhow so useless! Im guessing I need the alpine kca unit and intravee 2 and maybe a dsp converter? quite like the idea of the dynavin unit but im not sure thats as easy as it looks! thanks guys
Use the search button.Quite alot of info on this subject.I've upgraded to larger screen,when you do ,make sure the screen comes from an E39 and not X5,as the viewing angles are different.RichardP, on this forum is a very useful contact as well as Cemessi.They've both helped me!
 

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There is much that can be done but I must warn you, when you touch audio/visuals of the E39, you are embarking on a great adventure. You must prepare yourself as there is no turning back lol. I've walked this journey before.
 

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That's the info I need! Don't want to start if it's gonna be a pain. I'll just put a parrot handsfree that takes the iPhone for music too. But if getting a 16:9 is an easy swap(nearly bought an x5 one) I'll do it! Anyone got any ideas for the simplest iPod/phone integration? Might just stick with 4:3 as all I'll be looking at is mpg or radio station! Could I watch DVD from newer version? Is the nav worth the hassle of upgrade?
 

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Just a larger screen swap, don't know. I'm sure thats not to bad vs an actual aftermarket nav system itself.

For easy Ipod integration, the BMW DICE kit. And no you can't watch DVDs on BMW nav systems.
 

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Screen is an easy swap and you don't need to upgrade NAV. For ipod function search intravee or mediabridge.
 

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So do the x5 e46 e38 screens have the same connections? And is it true x5 one will have different viewing angle?
 

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There are quite a few 'gotchas' when upgrading the various components of the Nav system.

The simplest upgrade is the Nav computer itself, this is pretty easy and there is not a lot to go wrong. If you have a Mk II then you have to bypass the trimble (do a search), otherwise it's easy plug and play.

Next up is the 4:3 -> 16:9 monitor. One gotcha is that the older TV modules will only output 4:3 even on the 16:9 screen, you just get blank bars down the side. So you would have to either upgrade the TV module or remove it.

Why upgrade the TV module when analogue has been switched off around Bath, might as well just take it out, no? Well, there are two possible uses for an Analogue TV module. First you may want to watch DVDs, it has an AV input, although only with Mono audio. Second, it has a backup camera input. You can also upgrade to an OEM Free-view tuner, but it's very expensive.

Bypassing the TV module is usually quite easy, just unplug the TV module and replace the blue plug in the Nav computer with the blue plug that was in the TV, with some cars this will stop the Nav audio instructions from working without a few wires being moved, in most it will be fine.

You're car probably has the Traffic Master system, my advice is remove it before it fails.

DSP can also cause additional complications when installing an iPod interface. It uses a digital CD Changer audio input, all iPod interfaces that have decent audio replace the CD Changer source so you need an Analogue to digital converter to get the signal into the DSP amp.

Pretty much anything that is not plug and play, or very nearly plug and play, will mean that you will have to strip out the entire system and start from scratch, there is interaction between the radio and amp, remove one and other stops working. The monitor is 'dumb' it will only work with the OEM radio (or a specialised car PC). On top of this, most of the connections that you'd expect to be behind the dash are in the boot, speaker connections and antenna etc.

I'm down in the west country, one stop down the M4 from Bath regularly, if you want to have a chat or demo of what I have, let me know, next time is Monday 10th Jan.
 

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That Would be great Richard. Maybe we could meet at jct 18 or something. What sort of time do you pass? What setup do you have?
 

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I am usually down for 2 days, so I'll be down the entire evening of the 10th Jan. We can meet where you like, there are a few nice pubs around.

I have a MK IV Nav, no DSP (self installed subs with a Alpine PDX 4.150 amp), OEM Hybrid TV module and Intravee with iPod, CDC, MDC and DAB tuner. I have lying about a DICE silverline and MediaBridge 1000 (the version without Blue-tooth). Should be able to lay my hands on a DICE A/D too if you want to try stuff in your car.
 

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thanks richard, ill try my best to get out in the evening but having a 10 wk old little girl means days are better for me! so it looks like a 16:9(straight swap?) and mk iv satnav unit should see me right. then all the bits for the ipod connection,intravee etc. id quite like the tv so will have to look out for a hybrid, what models would fit? in the meantime could i use one of those small digi tuners maplin style? how would i connect audio?
 

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thanks richard, ill try my best to get out in the evening but having a 10 wk old little girl means days are better for me!
Could meet up on the way home I guess, usually get onto the M4 at junction 17 at about 4:00pm on Tuesday. Or I could come to you on Monday evening.

so it looks like a 16:9(straight swap?) and mk iv satnav unit should see me right. then all the bits for the ipod connection,intravee etc. id quite like the tv so will have to look out for a hybrid, what models would fit?
Any of the BMW E39/E46/X5/Z4 family of TV tuner will fit. Hybrid part numbers are :

6126251
6908079
6956832
6962190
6962212
6966615
6966696
6988906
9112837
9118577
9126252
9147138
9147139

Expect to pay a minimum of £400 for one.

in the meantime could i use one of those small digi tuners maplin style? how would i connect audio?
You can get AV input adapters from e-bay, they only have mono audio input though. These just piggyback to the existing TV connectors. For example BMW 3 5 X5 RANGE ROVER & 75 AUX AV INPUT OUTPUT LEAD on eBay (end time 22-Jan-11 16:04:52 GMT)
 
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