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I've been looking at several '06 and '07 M5s at several BMW dealerships. Based on the vehicle service reports that I got on each car, I have compiled a short list of SIBs for earlier models. Here is the list.

1. SIB # 11-10-05 S85 VANOS Line Replace (up to 11/22/05 production)

2. SIB # 34-05-06 Check SZL Optical Element (from 8/26/05 to 7/28/06)

3. SIB DME Programming (I saw multiple recalls on this)

4. SIB # 23-01-07 SMG hydrolic Motor replace

I believe these are the major ones. All are self explanatory except for number 2. What exactly is this? Based on what I read on this forum, the only one missing in this list is the "steering angle issue" or is it # 2?

No surprise, the earlier production models seem to have had all of the above problems with 2007 models having very few issues. I still think that if they have all been addressed, then even the earlier model cars should be fine.

On a side note, I noticed that some 2006-2008 models don't have the auxillary jack on the back of the center console. The dealer told me that those particular models have the ipod/USB option so that eliminates the AUX jack. Is this true? So, basically, if you have the ipod/USB, you won't have the AUX.
 

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Aux jack is completely independent of the IPOD/USB. The Aux jack is in all cars from mid 2006 on. 2006 and 2007 have the Ipod adapter inplace of the CD Changer. 2008 has the same and also has a USB port.
 
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NavM, thanks for posting this info.:thumbsup:
 

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Aux jack is completely independent of the IPOD/USB. The Aux jack is in all cars from mid 2006 on. 2006 and 2007 have the Ipod adapter inplace of the CD Changer. 2008 has the same and also has a USB port.
I don't get it... My 2006 DOES NOT have the AUX jack in the center console. It only has the CD changer? What gives?
 

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I don't get it... My 2006 DOES NOT have the AUX jack in the center console. It only has the CD changer? What gives?
As usual it is not entirely clear when and where changes occured.
They also appear to be different in different geographic markets.

My July 2006 UK spec car has the 6 CD Changer, which does not play MP3 CD's and a single player which does.
It has a DVD player which does not pay DVD's except for the navigation ones of course.
It also has the auxiliary jack in the rear of the centre console.
I play my iPod touch through this jack, but it cannot be controlled in any way by this means, I live with this using playlists and source switching.

I just got the 2010 M5 UK price and spec listing (4 MB pdf file with pictures and colour options), you still pay extra for an iPod connection, but you can then control it from the steering wheel and iDrive. I guess the 6 changer has to go because the space is where the ipod would live.
 

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As usual it is not entirely clear when and where changes occured.
They also appear to be different in different geographic markets.

My July 2006 UK spec car has the 6 CD Changer, which does not play MP3 CD's and a single player which does.
It has a DVD player which does not pay DVD's except for the navigation ones of course.
It also has the auxiliary jack in the rear of the centre console.
I play my iPod touch through this jack, but it cannot be controlled in any way by this means, I live with this using playlists and source switching.

I just got the 2010 M5 UK price and spec listing (4 MB pdf file with pictures and colour options), you still pay extra for an iPod connection, but you can then control it from the steering wheel and iDrive. I guess the 6 changer has to go because the space is where the ipod would live.
I think you will find that your DVD player will play MP3s on both CDs and DVDs - a DVD loaded with MP3s is awesome in size. :cool:
 

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DVD player compatibility?

I think you will find that your DVD player will play MP3s on both CDs and DVDs - a DVD loaded with MP3s is awesome in size. :cool:
Thank you very much Snowball. :M5thumbs:

I now have the dilemma of deciding whether to do it or not. :eek:h:

I assume the DVD MP3 music track data is readable in the iDrive and that would be a plus.

But if I make a DVD full of MP3's I shall not be able to call up the DVD part of the SatNav database, because the SatNav DVD has to be ejected to make room for the music disc.

The iPod with 32GB and currently holding 2890 songs and with room for 4000 more as well as my videos and still photos, is quite convenient. Also thanks to iTunes is very easy to organise both to store music and to make playlists.
The big exception is it is necessary to look at the Ipod itself to see details, so I would only do it standing still.

I will have to think about this some more, but thanks again for pointing out the option.

Following the line of convergence which is clearly happening in car data systems and music systems, does anyone have any idea why cars are getting such tiny Hard Disk Drives at this point.
Capacities of 11 to 15 GB seems to be common.
Personally I would not consider a replacement laptop drive under 500 GB, since that would cost about the same as a full tank of petrol/gas at UK prices.
Have BMW and others no eye to the future data needs of their customers?
SatNav is shortly to become much smarter as a tool to reduce Carbon Emissions, it will need space to play this game that a DVD cannot provide (not even BluRay.)
 

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With regards to the SIB #1 please read below I have attached the actual service bulletin from BMWNA.

SI 11 10 05
Engine January 2006
Technical Service

PERFORM THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED IN THIS SERVICE INFORMATION ON ALL AFFECTED VEHICLES BEFORE CUSTOMER DELIVERY OR THE NEXT TIME THEY ARE IN THE SHOP FOR MAINTENANCE OR REPAIRS.


SUBJECT
Service Action: S85 Replace VANOS High Pressure Line


MODEL
E60 M5 with S85 produced up to 11/22/05


SITUATION
The VANOS high pressure line may start to leak engine oil around the flexible hose.

A Service Action will be conducted on all affected vehicles which have not already had the improved VANOS line replaced. Customers will be mailed letters notifying them of the Service Action shortly (copy of the customer letter is attached).

To minimize customer's inconvenience caused by this Service Action, you are being asked to pick-up (and deliver after repair), if necessary, the affected vehicle from customer's home, and provide appropriate alternative transportation.

Customers will be impressed when you return their cars cleaned inside and out and with a full tank of gas. Reimbursement information for the vehicle fueling and valet costs can be found in the Warranty portion of this bulletin.

AFFECTED VEHICLES
This Service Action involves M5 vehicles with S85 engines which were produced from the beginning of production up to 11/22/05.

In order to determine if a specific vehicle is affected by this Service Action, it will be necessary to utilize the "Service Menu" of the DCS (Dealer Communication System). Based on the response of the system, either proceed with the corrective action or take no further action.

The Chassis Number Ranges listed below are only for informational purposes and are not to be considered as the only deciding factor.

Model
Chassis Number Range

M5
B581062 � B583155

CORRECTION
On the affected vehicles, replace the VANOS high pressure line between the pressure accumulator and connecting lead.

PROCEDURE


Remove the front underbody protection (refer to TIS RA 5147490).

Remove the fan cowl with electric fan (refer to TIS RA 1711035).

Remove the drive belt for A/C compressor (refer to TIS RA 1128050).

Remove the alternator drive belt (refer to TIS RA 1128010).

Disconnect the secondary air hose fitting and remove the water pump pulley

Carefully loosen the VANOS line at accumulator, to release any residual pressure, and then remove and replace the VANOS high pressure line: PN 11 36 7 838 670) � identified as #1 on the illustration.

The required tightening torques can be found in TIS under: 11 36 Variable camshaft control. All sealing rings must be replaced.

Important: Only copper sealing rings must be fitted.

Reassemble all removed parts.

Verify that the engine oil level is correct and top off as necessary.



Note: When fitting the new line, make sure that there is sufficient distance to the cable tie on the secondary air hose on the bottom of the engine. If the cable tie is fitted with the lock facing upwards (towards the VANOS high pressure line) it must be replaced. When doing so, make sure the cable tie lock is positioned at the bottom (see illustration to the left).

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity

11 36 7 838 670
VANOS pressure line
1

07 11 9 963 129
A12x15 Copper sealing ring
6

61 13 1 367 599
Cable tie (if needed)
1

07 51 0 009 420
Castrol TWS 10W-60 motor oil
1

LABEL INSTRUCTIONS


This Service Action has been assigned code number 459. After the vehicle has been checked, and corrected if necessary, obtain a label (SD 92-278) and:

emboss your BMW dealer warranty number in the middle of the label (1);

punch out code number 459 printed on the label and,

affix the label to the B pillar as shown.

If the vehicle already has a label from a previous Service Action/Recall Campaign, affix the new label next to the old one. Do not affix one label on top of another one because a number from an underlying label could appear in the punched-out hole of the new label.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Reimbursement for this Service Action will be via Campaign Entry.

Defect Code
00 11 25 02 00


Work Package #1:
Replace VANOS high pressure line,

Vehicle in dealer's inventory

(Vehicles not retailed).


Labor Operation:
00 56 725

Labor Allowance:
23 FRU
E60 M5


Part Allowance
11 36 7 838 670 � pressure line
Qty = 1

07 11 9 963 129 � A12x15 � Copper sealing ring
Qty = 6


61 13 1 367 599 � cable tie
Qty = 1


Sublet Allowance
Up to 1 liter Castrol 10W-60 motor oil
$10.01

Sublet Code
4


Work Package #2:
Replace VANOS high pressure line,

Vehicle in customer's possession

(Vehicles retailed).


Labor Operation:
00 56 099

Labor Allowance:
25 FRU
E60 M5


Parts Allowance:
11 36 7 838 670 � pressure line
Qty = 1

07 11 9 963 129 � A12x15 � Copper sealing ring
Qty = 6


61 13 1 367 599 � cable tie
Qty = 1


Sublet Allowance
Up to 1 liter Castrol 10W-60 motor oil
$10.01

Sublet Code
4

RE-FUELING COST
BMW of North America, LLC, will provide reimbursement to have the gas tank topped off once as required, for each vehicle affected by this Service Action. Attach the appropriate fuel purchase receipt to the repair order to document cost.

Defect Code
85 99 00 66 NA
Refuel E60 M5

Affected by this Service Action


Sublet:
Actual cost to top off the fuel tank


Sublet code:
4


VALET COST
BMW of North America, LLC, will provide reimbursement for vehicle valet services (pick up & delivery) for each vehicle affected by this Recall Campaign. Attach the appropriate receipt to the repair order.

Defect Code
99 99 77 77 NA
Valet Service for E60 M5

Affected by this Service Action


Sublet:
$25.00


Sublet code:
4

RENTAL VEHICLES
Service Loaner vehicles, for this Service Action, should be utilized for alternative transportation needs to promote customer satisfaction.

Please note that the Warranty Policy and Procedure Manual in Section 9 on Page 8 and SI B01 07 03, spells out, for those participating BMW centers, the opportunity to self-authorize a rental vehicle if needed by your customer for this type of repair.
 

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I don't get it... My 2006 DOES NOT have the AUX jack in the center console. It only has the CD changer? What gives?
Same here. 2006 MY with CD changer and virtually every other option, but no AUX jack in the center console.

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My car is a July 2005 production M5. I have a regular ignition switch with no start button. I have no AUX and my Changer did not play MP3's. I took it in to perform the service bulleting for enabling MP3, and then installed the OEM ipod interface instead of the changer.

I have had all the service recalls carried out. At 19k miles, my clutch, flywheel and pump were replaced under warranty. I have also had my fuel tank sensor, fuel filter and fuel pump replaced under warranty.

My software was updated to the latest 2010 version and I can tell you that the major factor was SMG shifting smoothness and loss of performance due to this.

Thank God for aftermarket tuners.
 

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Good info to know, I just picked up an 06.
 

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Guys,

I don't know what is going on but I called my local dealer to have the two items listed on the first page replaced but my SA is telling me that these items are NOT on the recall list. In addition, I also called BMWNA and they also telling me the same thing. Are these items indeed are on the recall lists or bmw is doing this repair as good will? Thank you in advance.
 

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Yes

I just had my steering angle sensor go bad today. Bt htere's one thing that worries me, my car is a JUly 2005 build, the nulletin indicates cars from Aug 2005. How can my car not be on that list? Its older and obviously had the old angle sensor on? Which has gone bad now!
 
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