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Life after an M6,

I'm just curious what your thoughts are of what you might consider if you where going to "Upgrade/Move on" from the E63 to a used car in the $55k-70k range.

I feel like all my preferences are a down grade in many terms for the increase over resale value of the M6.

Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2009+ has extra 20hp worth it?), Aston Martin DB9 (2005-2006), Maserati GT (~2008), Porsche 911, Audi R8 V8 4.2 (...about $10k out of price range).

Maserati GT
Cons: Slow, compared to other options, notorious for electrical issues, high depreciation, flappy paddles feel too plastic and cheep toy like. Interior is extremely dated.

Pros: Rare to see on the road, great style and I've driven one, I really liked the handling it was smooth even at low speeds, sounds awesome.

AM V8V
Pros: Price is relatively low, style is a timeless classic, some what rare to see on the road. 2009 has more HP but costs a lot more. High depreciation.
Cons: I've been told by an owner they preferred the M6, I hear reliability is worse than Maserati. Under powered, biggest review complaint.

AM DB9
Pros: Huge discounts over orginal MSRP for very low miles, timeless look. Rare to see. Manual option. V12 vrooom closest to M6's power.
Cons: Old mans car? 2005-ish year range to meet price range, prob very expensive to fix if anything goes wrong. Prob very expensive to insure regardless of price.

911
Pros: Well build, highly sought after, slow depreciation, many options that fit in budget.
Cons: Everyone has them, everywhere! Always the same look every year, cabin is too small for my tastes.

R8 V8
Cons: Over budget, not the V10, R8s are rather common to see around here. Pros: High value retention might make up for the extra cost when if it came time to sell.

Just curious how others feel about the subject and options. Which will be the best for value over 3-4 years?
 

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Life after an M6,

I'm just curious what your thoughts are of what you might consider if you where going to "Upgrade/Move on" from the E63 to a used car in the $55k-70k range.

I feel like all my preferences are a down grade in many terms for the increase over resale value of the M6.

Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2009+ has extra 20hp worth it?), Aston Martin DB9 (2005-2006), Maserati GT (~2008), Porsche 911, Audi R8 V8 4.2 (...about $10k out of price range).

Maserati GT
Cons: Slow, compared to other options, notorious for electrical issues, high depreciation, flappy paddles feel too plastic and cheep toy like. Interior is extremely dated.

Pros: Rare to see on the road, great style and I've driven one, I really liked the handling it was smooth even at low speeds, sounds awesome.

AM V8V
Pros: Price is relatively low, style is a timeless classic, some what rare to see on the road. 2009 has more HP but costs a lot more. High depreciation.
Cons: I've been told by an owner they preferred the M6, I hear reliability is worse than Maserati. Under powered, biggest review complaint.

AM DB9
Pros: Huge discounts over orginal MSRP for very low miles, timeless look. Rare to see. Manual option. V12 vrooom closest to M6's power.
Cons: Old mans car? 2005-ish year range to meet price range, prob very expensive to fix if anything goes wrong. Prob very expensive to insure regardless of price.

911
Pros: Well build, highly sought after, slow depreciation, many options that fit in budget.
Cons: Everyone has them, everywhere! Always the same look every year, cabin is too small for my tastes.

R8 V8
Cons: Over budget, not the V10, R8s are rather common to see around here. Pros: High value retention might make up for the extra cost when if it came time to sell.

Just curious how others feel about the subject and options. Which will be the best for value over 3-4 years?

Just in terms of value?
I'd say the Porsche and R8. The Porsche's already been hit by the 991 but the R8 may be looking at further fall since the brand new R8s are coming in next year. Also, Porsche's well known for solid price anyways whereas R8 doesn't have much of history.

I personally don't recommend the DB9 and MGT. Both of which my friends have, they are horribly unreliable. Like you mentioned the Maserati welcomes you every single day with electric glitches, warnings, etc (applies to any Maserati, old/new don't matter) and DB9 isn't that great either. (friend's one is '09 and the battery dies if it's not driven for a couple of weeks. He's on 2nd battery). Not to mention the repair cost..
V8V is a beautiful car and as far as I'm concerned it's at least more reliable than the DB9. (i might be wrong, just personal opinion)

I'm not familiar with car markets in the US but aren't there any other choices you could be looking at?



I just wrote a full page and deleted it.. thinking I'm really going off on a sidetrack..
If you have any questions ask me, i'll try my best to answer,

cheers

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Personally, I'm looking into a 996 turbo right now for next winter. Sounds like a great daily when there's snow on the ground. Will I keep the M6? Probably. High altitude up here just strangles NA motors. Yeah, the M6 is fast, but the 996 is faster. We'll see. As for value? I could care less. If you like something, buy it. That's how I look at it anyway.

The only AM Vantage I'd consider is the V12. The V8's feel slow. Must have the manual, as the auto's are very, very irritatingly slow to respond.

V8 R8 has to have the auto box in it, as the stick leaves something to be desired. I am not a fan of the clutch feel (read: lack thereof) in the R8's.

Maser GT? Nope. Ugly, ugly, ugly IMO. Quattroporte SGT or SGT-S or the Gransport if it were me.

Just my $.02

Edit: Well, I'm not really sure what I'm in the mood for. Besides the 996 Turbo, I'm looking into a 550 Maranello, 355, CL65, ...... Maybe another 456? I do miss that car. Needs different seats though, as the stock seats kill my lower back.
 

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Not quite ready to add another car to the garage yet but I've been looking at used 997.1 GT3s and 996 GT3/GT2s for a little while now and they're probably the best drivers cars out there for your money. Pretty hard to beat the E6x M cars for sheer speed/pace at this price though (or really at any for that matter!). You've got to prioritize what you're looking for in a new car first. You could move to an old Alfa (Giulia/Giulietta Spyder Veloce) if you really wanted to go that route or you could turn a GT2, GT3, Cayman R, Exige S260 into your weekend warrior track weapon. Turbos are a great buy a the moment too. F355 Spyders with the 6 speed manual are very tempting as well. A difficult price bracket!
 

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I beg to differ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GK03w2xTM

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I'm up here at 5000 feet. FI kills NA up here at altitude. Sea level is a whole different story. Personally, I don't much care for the 997 turbo's. The M6 definitely feels faster than the 997. I can't really explain why. Well, I did have the 997 convertible, so maybe weight? I can't say. I'm a 996 guy. Interior is nicer, driving and handling feels better, and the turbo feels like a turbo. There's a definite powerband--with some lag, which is fine by me. My '04 S600 is faster than my M6 up here, but it shouldn't be. 4800lbs, 532whp, and 0-60 is about 4.2-4.3 depending on the launch. The M6? I haven't actually timed the 0-60 yet. I'm guessing closer to 5 seconds though. Probably somewhere in the 4.7-4.8 range? Roughly?

Honestly, the only reason I like the M6 is the motor. The sound, the power, it's all great. The car? Well, that leaves a bit to be desired. I really wish BMW would spend a bit more time on making their cars comfortable. I can't ever get the seat/steering wheel adjusted right. By the time the seat is back far enough where my legs aren't up around my ears, I can't reach the steering wheel. Really quite annoying. That's all BMWs for me though. My old 325is was the same, my M3 was that way, and so was my 4.8is. Drives me nuts. That's why I have so many **** Mercedes--I actually fit in them. The pedals are out in front, where they belong. Really it's a shame, as I love the way BMW's drive. I'd love to be able to daily a BMW, but I can't drive any of them for more than about 45 minutes at a time before I start to ache.
 

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Maser GT? Nope. Ugly, ugly, ugly IMO. Quattroporte SGT or SGT-S or the Gransport if it were me.
I completely disagree with this; IMO the beauty is in the aesthetics and this car breaks necks as much as a Ferrari/Lambo.


 

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I completely disagree with this; IMO the beauty is in the aesthetics and this car breaks necks as much as a Ferrari/Lambo.

I'll give you that the Maser GT MC does look okay. I was referring to the regular one:

 

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Ah gotcha. You could change the bumper to make the front look similar to the MC on the older ones.

However the new GT base and S models come with a similar front bumper to that of the MC.
 

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I have a friend that just sold his 2012 MC Stradale. Nothing but electrical issues. It was a beautiful car, but very glitchy.


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I have a friend that just sold his 2012 MC Stradale. Nothing but electrical issues. It was a beautiful car, but very glitchy.
That's very strange because my dad test drove a 2011 MC Stradale with 37k miles and the service record showed us no issues. It might've been your friend's individual MC....OR the one we test drove was one of the lucky issue-free MC's.

Who knows.
 
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For me the only next step up from an M6 would be a Gallardo which is still out of my budget and still slower than my M6 so its tough. There really is no other car currently in my budget that produces the power and WOW/Flash factor as the M6 so thats why im keeping it. Anything else used whether its a Maserati,aston martin,etc.. is going to have a crap load of issues as well so your going to need a warranty regardless.

I often ask my self what I would get if I won the lottery lol Hands down it would be LaFerrari and my license plate would say YOURWET
 

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That's very strange because my dad test drove a 2011 MC Stradale with 37k miles and the service record showed us no issues. It might've been your friend's individual MC....OR the one we test drove was one of the lucky issue-free MC's.

Who knows.
my friends situations were the same as BT07M6V10's
both had MC Stradale year '12 and '13, both sold after so many issues with it, mostly electrical

gearbox was a lot smoother than M6 but not necessarily faster than SMGIII in S6
Maserati claims 60ms which I think it's bullshit (that means it's faster than Ferrari FXX or e92 M3 DCT)
 

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For me the only next step up from an M6 would be a Gallardo which is still out of my budget and still slower than my M6 so its tough. There really is no other car currently in my budget that produces the power and WOW/Flash factor as the M6 so thats why im keeping it. Anything else used whether its a Maserati,aston martin,etc.. is going to have a crap load of issues as well so your going to need a warranty regardless.

I often ask my self what I would get if I won the lottery lol Hands down it would be LaFerrari and my license plate would say YOURWET
A Gallardo slower than a M6?? I beg to differ. The G has 513 HP to the M6s 508 and the G is lighter. Also you can get more power out of the G's V10 than you can the M6.

A G is definitely the car I would eye when getting rid of the M6.

:cheers:
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Gallardo is overrated imo. After driving my friend's...I rather save up and buy an Aventador (despite the cost difference) or an F430 instead.

I prefer the exhaust note of the F430 over the aggressive looks of the G. Just my .02

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Gallardo is overrated imo. I prefer the exhaust note of the F430 over the aggressive looks of the G. Just my .02
Agreed. The Gallardo is a fun car for a week or two. I wouldn't buy one for the long run.
 
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