He babies his car, always at the back of the pack at car meets :wink
Since I am by no means the expert that you are Jim, I posted in that thread wondering if they were similar tri-metal bearings to ours since those looked so clean for a 100,000+ mile car. Yes, part of it was the nice even wear across the entire lateral face of the bearing.
I would not bother with a Blackstone report, had them done on mine and all came back good. Bearings were deep into the copper.ive never done blackstone. gonna do it next time.
what is the threshold or "more lead" in the analysis? does blackstone make rec for this engine based on the analysis?
AMEN BROTHA!!!This **** needs to stop...
NO THEY ALL WILL NOT FAIL SUB 100K MILES. Go on auto trader and search, you'll find ~500 cars for sale and over half of them are north of 100k miles. Then go on zoomthelist or allofcraigs and search, you'll find so many cars without any mention of "rod bearings".
Then go on nasioc and iwsti and search. Their bottom ends are way more problematic than ours, and guess what their forum is just so ******* paranoid. Yet I still have many friends with over 100k miles on an STI stock bottom end.
FORUMS ARE A BREADING GROUND FOR PARANOIA.
I've been on this forum for years and I'm almost through with it. This RB talk is really out of control and guess what, no one is going to want to own an E60 because of people on this forum saying things like "Its a ticking time bomb" "The tws is syrup, run 0w40" "Oh man the problem is BMW for not putting nascar standard clearance in a high revving motor" "oh man, look at those wear patters, they look bad, i see copper! were all doomed!!!!!!"
Ive seen so many "bad" bearings bearings (replaced as PM) posted with what I see as normal wear patterns and no clearance measurements. The numbers are what matters, not judging a book by its cover. Hell, I saw a well respected user of the forums pulled a set of bearings out of a 15k motor that he rebuilt as a control and ran on a lighter oil, the bearings looked the same as 99% of the other pulled as PM. He then had the gall to say "those bearings would have never made it to 30k".
Spend some time on the E39 forum, a great deal of those users feel their cars have RB problems and guess what, that paranoia has settled down now that their cars are aging. Its very common to see an E39 with north of 150K miles now so no one worries anymore.
Every time I run into someone with an S85 car I chat. I talked to a guy with an IB 06 the other week and he had 120k. He had no clue that his motor "is a ticking time bomb" because he isnt on this forum. Guess what, he enjoys his car and tracks it.
This RB trend needs to stop before the E60 goes the way of the 996. There's a reason why that amazing generation has no resale value even though the failure rate wasn't that high. The problem was TALKED TO DEATH by enthusiasts. The failure rates on RB on these cars are nothing if you consider how many S85s are out there. Like 20k!!! Yet everyone who joins this forums posts something out of regret because now they're scared to own the car. Think about the people who browse without signing in! They're never going to buy one! Over the past two years I've seen the resale value of the E63 and E60 TANK. ANYONE WANT TO TAKE A GUESS WHY????
STOP, JUST STOP with the RB PARANOIA.
Feel free to find my thread I made not too long ago where I had dozens of s85 users comment their milage on a stock bottom end.
Buy an E60
ALWAYS USE 91 OR HIGHER OCTANE.
ALWAYS LET IT WARM UP BEFORE BEATING.
NEVER TRACK THE CAR ON "MINIMUM OIL LEVEL"
NEVER REDLINE IT AT IDLE TO HEAR THE SOUND
NEVER REDLINE IT WHEN COLD
ALWAYS USE APPROVED OIL and not whatever crap the conspiracy theorists suggest.
DONT REFLASH YOUR ECU WITH ONE OF THE MANY REVERSE ENGINEERED "TUNES" AVAILABLE.
Do this and the car will last a long time.
Yep a BS report on mine came back clean but when we took it apart it was already halfway through the copper :eekI would not bother with a Blackstone report, had them done on mine and all came back good. Bearings were deep into the copper.
Its good for checking if coolant is in the oil and how much it has broken down.
Well as we do not know how the previous owner drove the car or if he did the proper warm up procedure it is hard to respond to your question but with such a low mileage car I think you will be fine for awhile.Purchased 08 with 15000 miles and a lot of maint. Records
When should I be worried about changing
Bearings most oil changes were done at dealers and a few at indy shops and last by me @ 18000
Thanks guys, love the opposing perspectives. Especially the anti-RB paranoia post.
I'm at 114,000 mi now and I plan on doing them at some point next year, probably early spring. I put on about 1,000 mi each month and I have elevated Pb in the Blackstone report.
I was freaking out for a while but I'm just going to take my chances and relax until they are changed. Maybe a bad idea, maybe not. The car is worth maybe $20k and perhaps $10k junked with blown engine?
Car is not tuned or tracked, nor driven like a grannie. Daily commuter 45 miles/day or variable traffic.
PS- JColley, I got f-ed by the dealer on a SMG III 7 speed repair. Flywheel, clutch, slave cylinder, SMG pump motor... ~$10k.
Didn't know better at the time.