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I did search but its a bit hard to aggregate all the information and it seems most threads are dealing with iPod OR Sirius, not both concurrently, at least in the way I want to do it. Quite simply I would really like Sirius radio and iPod control (not uncommon, right?). However, I'd like it as streamlined and OEM as possible.

As far as I know, I can use Alpine/OEM solution for both, correct? Do I need the Intravee as well? I am confused if it is the driver that enables multiple inputs (Sirius and iPod), thereby allowing for both to be connected via BM53 and various Alpine accessories.

General list of parts needed:

1. Intravee??
2. Becker BM53 radio
3. Alpine Sat Radio Receiver
4. Sirius Antenna
5. Alpine iPod control unit (KCA 420)
6. Other misc cables/splitters.

Don't care about losing the CDC, just want to make sure before I start sourcing these various parts. I am able to find them pre-owned at some good value, as I'd like to keep the cost down. Thanks!
 

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If you want multiple AI-net components (iPod + Sirius) I believe you need the Intravee Switch as well.

From: http://www.toysinyourcar.com/acatalog/intravee.html



This neat little device allows you to connect multiple Alpine AiNET devices to your Intravee II.

Key Features:

> Allows connection of up to three AiNET devices or three Aux inputs or any combination of AiNET and Aux inputs up to a total of three.
> Works in a similar way to the Alpine KCA-410c or KCA-400c (AND it is compatible with most Alpine head units).
> Allows all connected iPods (via KCA-420i) to charge their batteries, regardless of whether they are the currently selected playing source or not.
> Firmware upgradable via Intravee II using standard PC either by the customer (or ourselves for a small charge.
> Very low standby power consumption (typically less than 1mA).
> Dimensions are 95 x 65 x 30 mm. (3.75 x 2.5 x 1.0 inches approx)
 

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If you want multiple AI-net components (iPod + Sirius) I believe you need the Intravee Switch as well.

From: http://www.toysinyourcar.com/acatalog/intravee.html



This neat little device allows you to connect multiple Alpine AiNET devices to your Intravee II.

Key Features:

> Allows connection of up to three AiNET devices or three Aux inputs or any combination of AiNET and Aux inputs up to a total of three.
> Works in a similar way to the Alpine KCA-410c or KCA-400c (AND it is compatible with most Alpine head units).
> Allows all connected iPods (via KCA-420i) to charge their batteries, regardless of whether they are the currently selected playing source or not.
> Firmware upgradable via Intravee II using standard PC either by the customer (or ourselves for a small charge.
> Very low standby power consumption (typically less than 1mA).
> Dimensions are 95 x 65 x 30 mm. (3.75 x 2.5 x 1.0 inches approx)
Thanks for the quick response, this is what my research led me to as well...That the Intravee is necessary if I want to add the factory Sirius radio to the BM53 and control both iPod and Sirius through the HU. Others please feel free to chime in...I have also PM'd RichardP.
 

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I am running factory sirius and intravee for ipod. The intravee takes the place of cd changer and has extra controls for mirror, light, ect. I upgraded to the bm53 bought sirius controller from bmw, sirius antenna from eBay, added intravee and kac420i. I am happy with this set up.
 

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Unlike other AI net components, you do NOT need the intravee switch (or alpine switch) with a radio tuner-- it has a pass through function so you can just daisy chain them.

You have two options for sirius-- you can use the OEM BMW module or you can use the Alpina AI net module. If you get the OEM BMW module you will need the BM53, but you don't need it with the Alpine/intravee route (though it does make things a little cleaner). If you go the OE sirius route, I'd very much suggest getting a new, last revision sirius module-- the sound quality improved significantly and the display on MKIV/BM53 as well.

Your parts list can go one of two ways:

1)
Intravee (ibus to ai net adaptor)
KCA-420i (ipod adaptor)
blitzsafe DSP adaptor (I have one of these for sale, btw)
intravee compatible AI net sirius module of your choosing (includes sirius antenna)

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Intravee (ibus to ai net adaptor)
KCA-420i (ipod adaptor)
BM53 (newer radio tuner)
OEM sirius module
BMW ANT ADAPTER P/N: 61126913955
BMW RADIO HARNESS P/N: 61126913957
BMW CDC ADAPTER P/N: 61126924785
BMW CONNECTION CABLE CD-CHANGER (550mm) P/N: 65128364756
BMW Sirius Installation Kit P/N: 84110141975
BMW CDC Slave Cable P/N: 84110150526
Sirius / XM Antenna (with FAKRA SMB connection)

There are two benefits to going with the OEM interface:
1) The mode switch will toggle through all inputs, instead of toggling within the intravee interface (not a big deal)
2) you can still add a HD radio tuner later that way

But, it's a much more expensive route to go.
 

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Unlike other AI net components, you do NOT need the intravee switch (or alpine switch) with a radio tuner-- it has a pass through function so you can just daisy chain them.

You have two options for sirius-- you can use the OEM BMW module or you can use the Alpina AI net module. If you get the OEM BMW module you will need the BM53, but you don't need it with the Alpine/intravee route (though it does make things a little cleaner). If you go the OE sirius route, I'd very much suggest getting a new, last revision sirius module-- the sound quality improved significantly and the display on MKIV/BM53 as well.

Your parts list can go one of two ways:

1)
Intravee (ibus to ai net adaptor)
KCA-420i (ipod adaptor)
blitzsafe DSP adaptor (I have one of these for sale, btw)
intravee compatible AI net sirius module of your choosing (includes sirius antenna)

2)
Intravee (ibus to ai net adaptor)
KCA-420i (ipod adaptor)
BM53 (newer radio tuner)
OEM sirius module
BMW ANT ADAPTER P/N: 61126913955
BMW RADIO HARNESS P/N: 61126913957
BMW CDC ADAPTER P/N: 61126924785
BMW CONNECTION CABLE CD-CHANGER (550mm) P/N: 65128364756
BMW Sirius Installation Kit P/N: 84110141975
BMW CDC Slave Cable P/N: 84110150526
Sirius / XM Antenna (with FAKRA SMB connection)

There are two benefits to going with the OEM interface:
1) The mode switch will toggle through all inputs, instead of toggling within the intravee interface (not a big deal)
2) you can still add a HD radio tuner later that way

But, it's a much more expensive route to go.
So with the former (#1), this looks to be much simpler and less expensive, correct? But is not the OEM route? Ideally want to stuff the iPod in the trunk (have it turn on and off with ignition, like "standard" iPod compatible interfaces) and do all controls through the HU including Sirius.
 

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So with the former (#1), this looks to be much simpler and less expensive, correct? But is not the OEM route? Ideally want to stuff the iPod in the trunk (have it turn on and off with ignition, like "standard" iPod compatible interfaces) and do all controls through the HU including Sirius.
Yeah, #1 is cheaper and easier. The only significant downside is "mode" won't toggle you through all your audio inputs-- if you're listening to FM, you'll have to "mode" toggle to intravee, then intravee toggle between sirius and iPod (you can set many buttons to do that toggle-- but not mode).

Both solutions will let you keep everything in the trunk and control everything through the oem head unit. The intravee stuff is all very OEM feeling, it can just do much, MUCH more.
 

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All of mine are in the trunk controlled by head unit. I even gutted the cd changer and put everything including the iPod in there so it looks original.
 

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Yeah, #1 is cheaper and easier. The only significant downside is "mode" won't toggle you through all your audio inputs-- if you're listening to FM, you'll have to "mode" toggle to intravee, then intravee toggle between sirius and iPod (you can set many buttons to do that toggle-- but not mode).

Both solutions will let you keep everything in the trunk and control everything through the oem head unit. The intravee stuff is all very OEM feeling, it can just do much, MUCH more.
Great thanks...I NEVER listen to FM, I only ever toggle between iPod and Sirius, so that should be easier since the Intravee controls both? Now I just need the Intravee to come back in stock at toys in your car...
 

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I have the OE Sirius tuner, BM53 (P/N ending: 6988275), Intravee, Alpine KCA-410c, KCA-420i, 5th gen Nano, CHA-S634. All are controlled from the HU and the Alpine integration is perfect thanks to the Intravee. There are a couple of things to be aware of...

1) Not all BM53 Radios support OE Sirius. Here is the list of BM53 P/Ns which will support OE Sirius
Sirius and Aux. From early 2004 (maybe late 2003)
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6927911 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
6943449<o:p></o:p>
6943450 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
6964398<o:p></o:p>
6964399 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
6972662 <o:p></o:p>
6972664 <o:p></o:p>
6972665 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
MP3 ID3 display from MP3 CD Changer, Sirius and Aux. From September 2005.<o:p></o:p>
6976961<o:p></o:p>
6976962 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
6988275<o:p></o:p>
6988276 Remanufactured
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<o:p>2) The BM53 does not require the DSP adapter.</o:p>
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I have the OE Sirius tuner, BM53 (P/N ending: 6988275), Intravee, Alpine KCA-410c, KCA-420i, 5th gen Nano, CHA-S634. All are controlled from the HU and the Alpine integration is perfect thanks to the Intravee. There are a couple of things to be aware of...

1) Not all BM53 Radios support OE Sirius. Here is the list of BM53 P/Ns which will support OE Sirius
Sirius and Aux. From early 2004 (maybe late 2003)
6927910<?xml:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p>
6927911 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
6943449<o:p></o:p>
6943450 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
6964398<o:p></o:p>
6964399 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
6972662 <o:p></o:p>
6972664 <o:p></o:p>
6972665 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
MP3 ID3 display from MP3 CD Changer, Sirius and Aux. From September 2005.<o:p></o:p>
6976961<o:p></o:p>
6976962 Remanufactured<o:p></o:p>
6988275<o:p></o:p>
6988276 Remanufactured
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p>2) The BM53 does not require the DSP adapter.</o:p>
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I was wondering when you were going to share your expertise!
 

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Great thanks...I NEVER listen to FM, I only ever toggle between iPod and Sirius, so that should be easier since the Intravee controls both? Now I just need the Intravee to come back in stock at toys in your car...
Yeah, it'll actually be better if you never Listen to fm. One less audio input to toggle through.
 

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Guys - if I did not got the Intravee route and only wanted Sirius - can I still use the factory CD changer (I know its old school but 6 discs is enough at one time, and I'd like to keep with a budget). So I would do: stock HU, upgraded BM53 radio, BMW Sirius Tuner, retain OE CD Changer...thoughts?

Edit: BTW, what is the deal with bimmernav's customer service? They out of business or what?
 

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Guys - if I did not got the Intravee route and only wanted Sirius - can I still use the factory CD changer (I know its old school but 6 discs is enough at one time, and I'd like to keep with a budget). So I would do: stock HU, upgraded BM53 radio, BMW Sirius Tuner, retain OE CD Changer...thoughts?

Edit: BTW, what is the deal with bimmernav's customer service? They out of business or what?
You can use the OE Sirius and the OE CDC with one of the BM53 radio modules in my previous post. There will be no need for a switch just a couple of cables. All of the information you should need is in the BM53/Sirius retro-fit DIY in the DIY thread and my signature.

BTW, the OE Sirius Tuner is something like $236 from the dealer, which is better than BimmerNav's $550.00, and the dealer one, or at least it did when I bought mine, has a full year's subscription included.
 

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You guys are awesome, thanks. Just loaded my changer with 6 CD-R's, no issues. I am cyclical when it comes to music, so 6 CD's will do until I change up a few. Now I will source the parts for the OEM Sirius retrofit and go at that, it does not seem that complicated.

Perhaps I'll go for the Intravee later, but currently they are out of stock, nobody has gotten back to me, and who knows when they'll get them in.
 

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The reason I put the Intravee in was that I picked it, the KCA-420i and all of the cables up on ebay for, please don't hate me, $56.00 USD shipped.

The Switch in payment for a Mk-IV repair, the CHA-S634 and the Nano for an additional $100.00. So, the Intravee upgrade was dirt cheap thanks to ebay.
 
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