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with the E60 M5... Lovely car....

Will explain more tomorrow.. Its been a long day!!
 

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500 HP no other explanation needed:wroom:
 

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Yep 507 ponies and a great gear changing system, killer looks, shattering performance, lots of toys, OR fuel guzzler, small tank, but who cares about the downsides when the fun side of this car is so strong.
Looking forward to hearing the latest Burton....
 

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Let me explain...

Last week I was going past our local BMW dealer in my lunch break, as its only down the road from where I work, I went in and got some prices for some parts for the E34. As I walked past the show room I noticed that a E60 M5 was lurking inside.

Hmmmm I thought, with that the next day I went in the showroom the car was not there. So I decided to see if I could get a test drive, after talking to the salesman and showing a keen interest without being over the top the salesman was every bit as helpful as I had hoped. With this I said how much a month I would like to spend and if I could have some quotes based on this. I sent a e-mail to the salesman as I had not recieved anything. The next day I got the information about the prices a month and the breakdown. I sent a mail back thanking him and also with the fact that I would like to see the car more but the SMG is putting me off and I would need to be 100% in order to buy the car. As I do remember that he said about trying to get me a demo in the car.

So yesterday I had a mail saying that the car was back, as it had been away having some paint sorted out on the bumper as they wanted it to be perfect. Now a closer look at the E60 M5 would be enough, but a drive would be fantastic. So mid/late afternoon the salesman called in and collected me. We went through the car seeing what had been improved and what options the iDrive can change.

Upon sitting in the car and closing the door with a heavy thud, she felt like a fine leather chair that could do alot of mile crunching in. Buckeling up the seat squeesed me like someone testing the ripeness of a melon, not too hard but just enough. Now the seats have so many adjustments you would be fooled into thinking that your settling in a car that has this amount of power and performance. You can change everypart of the seat, you can make them hug you more or less for instance.

Now to fun, after adjusting the seat and the rake of the steering wheel. One thing that you notice is the Heads Up Display (HUD), which is all well and good and does take some while in getting used to, as you do look at it alot when driving for me tho I think it was down to the fact that with the paddle shifting (Which is not like a Steering wheel on a Playstation or Xbox) I never really knew what gear I was in. The HUD does also give you a Rev counter which has different colours on for when the engine is cold and of course the limiter. The selected gear is there also whether your in D for the Automatic feature of the SMG or in full all out hardcore terror mode, which will call normal Paddle shifting. Of course you can use the little joystick to select the modes and change gear also.

Now the power and gear change is awesome. But is so smooth with its delivery of the power that you can be fooled that your not doing those speeds which you are. Its very business like inside the E60 M5 quiet yet purposeful. The steering is very quick and precise which can catch you out first time round. Braking is also good that reasures you that if you need them they can be called upon to stop this 1800kg car in a flash. Nothing in the way of feel or looks under the bonnet give away that there is a V10 lurking underneath to suck in small children along with furry animals.

Now onto the M button, the button that lets loose. But as with any electronic gizmo these days you can control and adapt it to how you want it to be. If you wanted you could have the M button set so it doesn't change the BHP only suspension settings etc. I suppose keeps those business Kiddies, so I mean Men busy when on long trips. But for this purpose it was set to the 507 Sport setting which ment everything got tighter but without rattling any fillings. Boy does she like to sing and I did get her to, from a rolling start in 2nd to limiter with a prod of the loud pedal, click into 3rd and more power more speed, 4th same again, 5th and then I backed off not due to being scared but mainly the salesman was in the car and the thought of a car pulling out would not be pleasent. Changing down is also fun with a automatic blip of the throttle on the down shift. But the best part was just coming turning into the corner and the side bolsters go against you in the corner to keep you more up right. Did a bit of town driving and I have to say I could get used to the SMG gearbox. You can use the paddles or just stick her in D and use the Automatic feature but be aware that if you take over using the paddles then you have to engage Automatic mode again. Something else that is strange is pulling away using the paddles you have to makesure that you keep your foot on the brake if on the hill but if your not you don't have to do anything. Only lightly press the loud peddle to engage that you want to move off and alittle more to do so.

Overall after a short while I was impressed with this car alot. More than what I was expecting, even with its TDi sounding tick over. But one thing I will say is that you can see the Blood line in this E60 from the E34. Things have only been changed to improve the car, everything that was in the E34 you can still feel and sense in the E60. This is unlike say a VW Golf Mk2 to a Mk4 where things have been changed alot thought the years to get to where they are now. With BMW they must of gotten this mix of Performance and Luggague hauling right the first time round and only have improved what people wanted.
 

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BURTON said:
Let me explain...

Last week I was going past our local BMW dealer in my lunch break, as its only down the road from where I work, I went in and got some prices for some parts for the E34. As I walked past the show room I noticed that a E60 M5 was lurking inside.,,,,,

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Well sounds like someone has fallen for the E60 M5...the question is will you be a future frequenter of the E60 M5 area? Was the pricing from BMW what you expected it to be - in regards to monthly costs. What is included in the package.
 

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I will be in the E60 m5 area in many years to come.. I have bought to many cars new and lost a packet for me not to do it again now.. Also the SMG does put me off alittle.

I said how much I wanted to pay and it went from there. £30k deposit, £500 a month for 36 months with a final payment of £33k Of course there where other things but that was just the jist of it.
 

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I will be in the E60 m5 area in many years to come.. I have bought to many cars new and lost a packet for me not to do it again now.. Also the SMG does put me off alittle.

I said how much I wanted to pay and it went from there. £30k deposit, £500 a month for 36 months with a final payment of £33k Of course there where other things but that was just the jist of it.
Thats £81k all in - thats £14k over list. That car had better have plenty of options on it. For that kind of money you may be better waiting for the M6..?
 

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Don't forget your paying for interest on the loan. But you do have the option to trade it in.. Now what do you think a M5 is worth in a few years time?!
 

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Don't forget your paying for interest on the loan. But you do have the option to trade it in.. Now what do you think a M5 is worth in a few years time?!
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Hi Burton

Do you have to pay anything if you decide to trade it in? Any fees etc?
 

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BURTON said:
£150 ish.. I think.
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Sounds good, when are you going to do it?

just going back to the car itself, what was the accelleration like compared to say the E34 M5 you have? Night and day? I suppose (as you said), and probably because its a newer car - you dont fell the speed so much, till you look down at the speedo.

What I cant get over is how much quicker on paper it is to the E34 and E39 M5's. ****!!
 

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As I said before it will be atleast 3 years I reckon. but with the talk of the US getting a manual they have to have a manual over in Europe! It just doesn't make sense.

It is very smooth but you do feel the kick but its like a plane taking off on the runway, it just keeps you in the back of the seat and just keeps pulling. The E34 does the same but power is raw in the E34. Which would I rather have?! E34 less toys and just you, LSD and the Road.
 

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Don't forget your paying for interest on the loan. But you do have the option to trade it in.. Now what do you think a M5 is worth in a few years time?!
I think in a couple of years time you will be lucky to get over £50k for it, you may even struggle to get high £40k's. Whilst being a great car the M5's have always suffered heavy depreciation in the early years.

The deal may still be worth it as it is no doubt a great car - i reckon over 2 years it will cost you the best part of £40k, all in. Or about 4 complete engine and gearbox re-builds on an e34....
 

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As I said before it will be atleast 3 years I reckon. but with the talk of the US getting a manual they have to have a manual over in Europe! It just doesn't make sense.

It is very smooth but you do feel the kick but its like a plane taking off on the runway, it just keeps you in the back of the seat and just keeps pulling. The E34 does the same but power is raw in the E34. Which would I rather have?! E34 less toys and just you, LSD and the Road.
If you are after that sort of grunt why not go for a second-hand M3 CSL, won't lose anywhere near as much cash, can buy outright for less than £30k, and is only a second slower to 100mph. PLus as they are normally de-restricted it would outrun the e60 at top whack on the autobahn. Only my 2p worth..
 

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Yeah thats the thing with the market being how it is, is it worth the risk. not really. But what a lovely car to drive. I can see how the new owners are loving theirs. But I wonder how a E34 would fair against the E60 in 400hp mode. As EVO Magazine did the M6 vs the Clio now that was interesting..
 

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I wonder how a E34 would fair against the E60 in 400hp mode. As EVO Magazine did the M6 vs the Clio now that was interesting..
There's a guy that owns a black e60 M5 near me, maybe one day I might find out. For sure I would know if he was in P500 mode.:M5launch:
 

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If you are after that sort of grunt why not go for a second-hand M3 CSL, won't lose anywhere near as much cash, can buy outright for less than £30k, and is only a second slower to 100mph. PLus as they are normally de-restricted it would outrun the e60 at top whack on the autobahn. Only my 2p worth..
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If you are after that sort of grunt why not go for a second-hand M3 CSL, won't lose anywhere near as much cash, can buy outright for less than £30k, and is only a second slower to 100mph. PLus as they are normally de-restricted it would outrun the e60 at top whack on the autobahn. Only my 2p worth..
When they get between £20 - 25k I will be interested myself.....
 
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