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Whelp, time to throw in the E39 towel. My M5's evaporator core has died. It's a $5,000 fix at the local dealer and I doubt even my trusted independent could do it for much less. The whole dash has to come out and then there's a whole nest of "while I'm in there" work that any car with 164,000 miles would need.

Will list for sale (not parted out as I originally posted) next week after I attend a family wedding. Any advice on how to best get this out of my driveway are appreciated.

Many thanks to the folks whose advice has kept this running for the 50K miles or so I've had it.

Thank &deity my M3 (F80) is still under warranty...
 

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Welp, time to throw in the E39 towel. My M5's evaporator core has died. It's a $5,000 fix at the local dealer and I doubt even my trusted independent could do it for much less. The whole dash has to come out and then there's a whole nest of "while I'm in there" work that any car with 164,000 miles would need.

Will list for parts next week after I attend a family wedding. Any advice on how to best get this out of my driveway are appreciated.

Many thanks to the folks whose advice has kept this running for the 50K miles or so I've had it.

Thank &deity my M3 (F80) is still under warranty...
Maybe work out a deal with @Clemster. MUCH easier than parting it out yourself.
 

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Maybe work out a deal with @Clemster. MUCH easier than parting it out yourself.
First, apologies for the really bad and totally incorrect wording on the original post. I really do like this car but it's time to move on.

I'm going to do what the previous owner did and sell it "stupid cheap" to someone who has the time, inclination and/or money to get it back into proper running order.

I do have all the receipts for every major repair...from the engine replacement (the previous owner lunched the engine) to the bodywork (e.g. hood respray) and up to the last big repair when the ABS computer died. I'm going to put those together so someone can make an informed buy. I've done my best to keep this car in good running shape and even have a fair number of parts that need to go with it such as the seats and rims from a 2003 M5 that someone drove into a tree. And a case of that very precious bodily fluid known as oil...:laugh

For what it's worth I now have a 2016 M3 to ease the pain. It's an absolute monster in full sport mode but it lacks the tactile connection to the road that any E39 owner is familiar with.
 

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Sorry about the sloppy wording. I have edited the original post to reflect that I want to sell this car "as is" and not parting it out a la Clemster...
 

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Damn, if you were on the opposite coast I'd be all over this... so, another vote for Adam (@Clemster)
Don't feel bad. It wouldn't pass the CA emissions test. We're considering a move to SoCal and learned that as part of my homework.

If that wasn't the case I think I could have sold it to a friend in Seattle earlier today...
 

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Don't feel bad. It wouldn't pass the CA emissions test. We're considering a move to SoCal and learned that as part of my homework.

If that wasn't the case I think I could have sold it to a friend in Seattle earlier today...
Why do you think it wouldn't pass?
 

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Sorry to hear of beast's imminent death...

+1 on selling it to Clemster.

And +1 on the F80. My DD for the past 3 years has been a 2016 M3 ZCP. It is a monster and an overall great car, but as you say is not as tactile. I'm actually switching to a 2020 M2C because I don't need two cars that are as big as the E39 and (based on a few test drives) is a bit more fun to drive than the M3 given its size.
 

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Sorry about the sloppy wording. I have edited the original post to reflect that I want to sell this car "as is" and not parting it out a la Clemster...
Adam doesn't part out every single car he gets, he's sold a handful of M5's. He took a blown up Dinan S3 car, put it back to factory fresh and sold it. I went down and looked at the car in person.

Said car recently sold on BaT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-m5-37/

If this car is good condition wise you'd be better off selling it to him, letting him fix it and give it a new lease on life with someone else. Selling it dirt cheap on craigslist is going to turn it into an inner city ghetto cruiser in no time flat.

You could always try and list it on BaT yourself, let it go to the highest bidder. Would probably set the record for cheapest M5 on BaT.
 

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Why do you think it wouldn't pass?
SAS problems. Well known to members of this board. When my M5 hit this issue I had it just turned off in the firmware. Where I live (North Carolina) they don't do tailpipe emissions tests. The annual inspection just checks to see if the car has thrown an emissions-related code. There's a handful of places such as California that require actual tailpipe emissions testing and my M5 would fail for the first thirty seconds of emissions after a cold start. Otherwise, it's fine.

I could be wrong but I'm not going to drive to Orange County (relatives there) to find out...let alone with no AC...
 

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Adam doesn't part out every single car he gets, he's sold a handful of M5's. He took a blown up Dinan S3 car, put it back to factory fresh and sold it. I went down and looked at the car in person.

Said car recently sold on BaT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-m5-37/

If this car is good condition wise you'd be better off selling it to him, letting him fix it and give it a new lease on life with someone else. Selling it dirt cheap on craigslist is going to turn it into an inner city ghetto cruiser in no time flat.

You could always try and list it on BaT yourself, let it go to the highest bidder. Would probably set the record for cheapest M5 on BaT.
Good suggestions! That's really what I'm aiming for. I think the car is fixable but I don't have the time or patience. BAT is really my target market since I have a number of (heavy) parts that must go with the car so any buyer would have to have a trailer or a pickup.

I'd sooner cube it than list on Craigslist. I sold an F150 on CL and it was an experience to say the least. I did end up selling it but only after a dozen or so scamsters. To be fair, the Craiglist experience varies widely by geography. My son has lived in the DC area and now in Southern California. He used CL extensively in both places and it was a relatively painless process. There just isn't enough volume here in central NC to bump the S/N ratio.
 

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SAS problems. Well known to members of this board. When my M5 hit this issue I had it just turned off in the firmware. Where I live (North Carolina) they don't do tailpipe emissions tests. The annual inspection just checks to see if the car has thrown an emissions-related code. There's a handful of places such as California that require actual tailpipe emissions testing and my M5 would fail for the first thirty seconds of emissions after a cold start. Otherwise, it's fine.



I could be wrong but I'm not going to drive to Orange County (relatives there) to find out...let alone with no AC...

CA hasn't done the tailpipe test for a few years now for MY 2000 and later cars, just OBD-II readiness and a visual inspection.

No A/C in OC I fully understand though...
 

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California doesn't require a sniffer on anything 2000 and after.
 

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BAT is really my target market since I have a number of (heavy) parts that must go with the car so any buyer would have to have a trailer or a pickup.
You could always try and list it on BaT yourself, let it go to the highest bidder. Would probably set the record for cheapest M5 on BaT.

Based on what I've seen recently in terms of cars that BaT has rejected, I'm not sure they'd take you up on this. Not saying you shouldn't try, but I wouldn't guarantee them accepting it. Actually, they probably would without a reserve.


Good luck either way!
 

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CA hasn't done the tailpipe test for a few years now for MY 2000 and later cars, just OBD-II readiness and a visual inspection.

No A/C in OC I fully understand though...
California doesn't require a sniffer on anything 2000 and after.
Thanks to both of you for the update. Is 2000 a rolling year? My son moved to SoCal several years ago with his (2000) M5 and once the SAS problem showed up he couldn't get it past inspection. I'll ask him this weekend at a family gathering.
 

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Quick update with two new items:

After my sanity has returned I thought I'd give my trusty independent repair shop (Import Motor Werks in Cary, NC) a call. They said they could do the evap core for quite a bit less than the dealer quote...like $2,000 less. That's a high-side estimate since it depends on how much the parts cost. Naturally labor is still the larger part of this repair but IMW's labor rates aren't bad.

I'm retired now and a trip to Cary is an hour and a half of pleasant driving on NC 64. So sometime next week I'm going to pop over and have them give it a look.

I was under the hood of the M5 tonight to check the oil (it's used about 1.25L in a little over 5,500 miles) and found out that the dealer flat out lost one of the AC parts (the cap for the AC service port). It's a ten buck part but still.

Worse, they broke both of the cabin air filter connections...p/n 64318379620 for the right one. The left one is a slightly different p/n but same price. So over $200 in parts thanks to some clumsy oaf.
I'm going to have a nice chat with the service manager tomorrow. grrrrrrrgrrrrrrrgrrrrrrr
 

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Quick update with two new items:

After my sanity has returned I thought I'd give my trusty independent repair shop (Import Motor Werks in Cary, NC) a call. They said they could do the evap core for quite a bit less than the dealer quote...like $2,000 less. That's a high-side estimate since it depends on how much the parts cost. Naturally labor is still the larger part of this repair but IMW's labor rates aren't bad.

I'm retired now and a trip to Cary is an hour and a half of pleasant driving on NC 64. So sometime next week I'm going to pop over and have them give it a look.

I was under the hood of the M5 tonight to check the oil (it's used about 1.25L in a little over 5,500 miles) and found out that the dealer flat out lost one of the AC parts (the cap for the AC service port). It's a ten buck part but still.

Worse, they broke both of the cabin air filter connections...p/n 64318379620 for the right one. The left one is a slightly different p/n but same price. So over $200 in parts thanks to some clumsy oaf.
I'm going to have a nice chat with the service manager tomorrow. grrrrrrrgrrrrrrrgrrrrrrr
if the dealer won't help you, I'd certainly be buying those parts second hand. Should be easy as I don't think those are really ever in demand.
 

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Thanks to both of you for the update. Is 2000 a rolling year? My son moved to SoCal several years ago with his (2000) M5 and once the SAS problem showed up he couldn't get it past inspection. I'll ask him this weekend at a family gathering.
In CA now, for OBD-II cars MY 2000 >= the only unset monitor allowed is the EVAP system. All others must be set to ready... and you obviously can't have the SES on when you roll in.

This changed around 2013-2014 (A.B. 2289, for the curious) when CA did away with the sniffer, and went OBD-II / visual only. Prior, MY 2000 cars could have two required monitors unset, MY 2001 >= were allowed one. Didn't matter which one(s) in either case, but the sniffer test was still in play...
 
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