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Hey Ted, this looks awesome! I tried filling out the form on the website but received an error so I sent you an email.

Also looking forward to the triple turn signal if you’re able to incorporate it!

Thanks!
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Hello Ted,

Great work on the BlueBus - it looks like a very polished solution for those with a factory sound system.

For those that have already moved to an aftermarket head unit, would it be possible to order only the Microphone adapter? If so, I’m in!

Thanks!
 

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Hello Ted,

Great work on the BlueBus - it looks like a very polished solution for those with a factory sound system.

For those that have already moved to an aftermarket head unit, would it be possible to order only the Microphone adapter? If so, I’m in!

Thanks!
Hello!

Thanks for the kind words :)

I'm not currently taking pre-orders for the mic by itself, but I will be selling it by itself as soon as I have confirmation from my beta user that it works well with the AVIN unit(s).

Thanks!
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How would this compare to a GROM bluetooth unit?

I'm using a GROM USB w/ bluetooth now, but it does have a few bugs and quirks which annoy me.
 

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How would this compare to a GROM bluetooth unit?

I'm using a GROM USB w/ bluetooth now, but it does have a few bugs and quirks which annoy me.
Hello!

The BlueBus is obviously way better integrated than the GROM units are. Additionally, my unit has upgradable software, so you'll keep getting new features as they're developed.

I have a beta user with an E39 M5 who happened to own the GROM prior to the BlueBus and he states that my unit has better range and the audio quality is way better.

Thanks!
-Ted
 

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Can Metadata be displayed on the factory navigation and MID? Is that why the pre-order form allows both to be selected?

Where does the compatible microphone get mounted? In place of the factory microphone?

Does this require running cable or wire from the rear to the front in order to utilize the factory or compatible microphone? The video mentioned another PCB that required installation in the upper center console to utilize the factory microphone.

Incidentally, I like the five-blink turn signal and it's what I've programmed my X5 for.

Can anyone comment on the factory microphone and whether it's worth it to keep and use instead of a compatible microphone?
 

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Can Metadata be displayed on the factory navigation and MID? Is that why the pre-order form allows both to be selected?

Where does the compatible microphone get mounted? In place of the factory microphone?

Does this require running cable or wire from the rear to the front in order to utilize the factory or compatible microphone? The video mentioned another PCB that required installation in the upper center console to utilize the factory microphone.

Incidentally, I like the five-blink turn signal and it's what I've programmed my X5 for.

Can anyone comment on the factory microphone and whether it's worth it to keep and use instead of a compatible microphone?
Yes, metadata can be displayed on both. I know some E38s had rear MIDs and factory nav, that's why that option is multiple choice 🙂

A compatible microphone may work at the factory location, but I imagine it would not work well because it'll be hard for it to pick up your voice. Most aftermarket mics state that they should be installed in the corner of the cluster, which makes sense but is aesthetically unpleasing.

In any case, I'd actually recommend hijacking the OE harness for a non OE mic. That means running two wires up the driver A pillar to the OE mic harness from where ever your mic has been installed. As long as the factory ULF or TCU are not installed, it'll be fine.

All E38 and E39 models that I have come across has the 3 pin white SES connector in the trunk that contains the mic positive and negative signals, so my kit will come with a jumper wire to connect that to the BlueBus.

The PCB mentioned is the OE mic adapter board. It takes the homelink connector and steps down the 12v to provide 5v to the OE microphone. The other side of the board decouples the DC voltage with a capacitor and outputs to the factory harness. You can see more about it here: https://github.com/tedsalmon/BlueBus/wiki/BMic-Adapter-Installation

Note that the board pictured is a prototype.

Are you using an Intravee for the 5-blink? I've been asked repeatedly for this feature, so I'm actively working on implementing it.

What I can say about the factory mic is that it has way better gain than a bog standard mic. It also, allegedly, has superior noise cancelation abilities, but I don't think this matters much as my BT adapter has algorithms employed for this.

Thanks!
-Ted
 

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Added me to the pre-order list.

Assume this is fully fused etc, so worst scenario in case of hw failure is a blown fuse, nothing worse, right?
 

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Added me to the pre-order list.

Assume this is fully fused etc, so worst scenario in case of hw failure is a blown fuse, nothing worse, right?
Correct! There is an on board 1.5A fuse. It's a littleblock SMD fuse holder, so if it were to go over current, it can be easily replaced without soldering. The board uses about 800mA when active, but different scenarios can drive that current a little higher 🙂
 

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A question.
For those of us using the StealthOne - where we today use the Phone button for muting the V1 - do you think can these units work together?

See link below, esp page 13 and 30.

http://www.bimmerboard.com/members/magnum/StealthOne_Owners_Manual_V-1.6.pdf
Hello,

It seems as though you can use the Up/Down buttons rather than the phone button to mute the S1, so if you were to use the BlueBus for calls, I'd recommend using that combo instead.

With that being said, as long as you're not on a call or have a call ringing through, the phone button won't do anything to the BlueBus. A long press of the phone button will call your phones assistant (Siri / Google), so there's that.

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Hello,

It seems as though you can use the Up/Down buttons rather than the phone button to mute the S1, so if you were to use the BlueBus for calls, I'd recommend using that combo instead.

With that being said, as long as you're not on a call or have a call ringing through, the phone button won't do anything to the BlueBus. A long press of the phone button will call your phones assistant (Siri / Google), so there's that.

-Ted
Hmm, OK . So can use up-down instead - or i can use the phone button as long as I'm not on the phone? Cool.
I'd maybe even ask to not have the long press configured to start Siri/Google?
 

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Hmm, OK . So can use up-down instead - or i can use the phone button as long as I'm not on the phone? Cool.
I'd maybe even ask to not have the long press configured to start Siri/Google?
I can certainly make this an option :)
 

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Hello!

The BlueBus is obviously way better integrated than the GROM units are. Additionally, my unit has upgradable software, so you'll keep getting new features as they're developed.

I have a beta user with an E39 M5 who happened to own the GROM prior to the BlueBus and he states that my unit has better range and the audio quality is way better.

Thanks!
-Ted
Thanks for the response Ted.

My main gripes with the GROM unit are 1) music will not autoplay upon vehicle entry, 2) next/play/pause functionality via vehicle controls work maybe 70% of time, and 3) non-nonsensical metadata is displayed.

Would the BlueBus solve those issues from the GROM?

In any case I've signed up for a pre-order!
 

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Thanks for the response Ted.

My main gripes with the GROM unit are 1) music will not autoplay upon vehicle entry, 2) next/play/pause functionality via vehicle controls work maybe 70% of time, and 3) non-nonsensical metadata is displayed.

Would the BlueBus solve those issues from the GROM?

In any case I've signed up for a pre-order!
1. This is an option that you can set with the BlueBus. I don't personally like it, but my beta users liked the idea of it :)
2. I've never had an issue getting playback controls to work with the BlueBus. When you hit the Next/Prev buttons on the Radio or on the steering wheel, the radio tells the CD Changer to go to the Next/Previous track, which is really easy to code around.
3. Yeah, I've seen this on their install videos. I have no idea what the metadata is supposed to represent on the GROM units.

So, yeah, the BlueBus doesn't have any of those issues :)

Thanks for the supprot!
 

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Yes, metadata can be displayed on both. I know some E38s had rear MIDs and factory nav, that's why that option is multiple choice 🙂

A compatible microphone may work at the factory location, but I imagine it would not work well because it'll be hard for it to pick up your voice. Most aftermarket mics state that they should be installed in the corner of the cluster, which makes sense but is aesthetically unpleasing.

In any case, I'd actually recommend hijacking the OE harness for a non OE mic. That means running two wires up the driver A pillar to the OE mic harness from where ever your mic has been installed. As long as the factory ULF or TCU are not installed, it'll be fine.

All E38 and E39 models that I have come across has the 3 pin white SES connector in the trunk that contains the mic positive and negative signals, so my kit will come with a jumper wire to connect that to the BlueBus.

The PCB mentioned is the OE mic adapter board. It takes the homelink connector and steps down the 12v to provide 5v to the OE microphone. The other side of the board decouples the DC voltage with a capacitor and outputs to the factory harness. You can see more about it here: https://github.com/tedsalmon/BlueBus/wiki/BMic-Adapter-Installation

Note that the board pictured is a prototype.

Are you using an Intravee for the 5-blink? I've been asked repeatedly for this feature, so I'm actively working on implementing it.

What I can say about the factory mic is that it has way better gain than a bog standard mic. It also, allegedly, has superior noise cancelation abilities, but I don't think this matters much as my BT adapter has algorithms employed for this.

Thanks!
-Ted
Thank you for your response.

I was specifically asking if metadata will be displayed on the MID in the cluster and the navigation display.

You answered my next question. The unit is powered from the Homelink adapter and it has a pass through connector so the Homelink is still operable. I use Homelink.

I'd prefer to use the OE mic because it's already installed and I don't like sticking things in my car.

I coded 5-blink directly using software for my X5. My M5 is lightly coded but the turn signals are normal. I don't own an Intravee.

I also have a Stealth One. That's something you should look into. I'm not looking forward to the day when mine stops working. Mine already acts up a bit. I'll have to drag the manual out and take a look at it again.
 

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Thank you for your response.

I was specifically asking if metadata will be displayed on the MID in the cluster and the navigation display.

You answered my next question. The unit is powered from the Homelink adapter and it has a pass through connector so the Homelink is still operable. I use Homelink.

I'd prefer to use the OE mic because it's already installed and I don't like sticking things in my car.

I coded 5-blink directly using software for my X5. My M5 is lightly coded but the turn signals are normal. I don't own an Intravee.

I also have a Stealth One. That's something you should look into. I'm not looking forward to the day when mine stops working. Mine already acts up a bit. I'll have to drag the manual out and take a look at it again.
Ah, the cluster MID is currently unused. I do plan to make the unit broadcast to that MID, similar to how the Radio does in AM/FM mode.

How did you code 5-blink? Admittedly, I need to do more research on the subject, but I assume the Intravee/other IBus device manipulated the LCM into running that feature.

I don't have a V1, but I have dealt with an S1 in someone elses car before. I don't think there's anything that will cause conflicts with the BlueBus and the S1, though.
 

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Ah, the cluster MID is currently unused. I do plan to make the unit broadcast to that MID, similar to how the Radio does in AM/FM mode.

How did you code 5-blink? Admittedly, I need to do more research on the subject, but I assume the Intravee/other IBus device manipulated the LCM into running that feature.

I don't have a V1, but I have dealt with an S1 in someone elses car before. I don't think there's anything that will cause conflicts with the BlueBus and the S1, though.
The cluster MID is not thst important to me. I was just curious.

It was years ago, but I think I used Carly for BMW in my X5. Oddly, in the X5, that function resides with the FRM. I do remember there's not a ton of options in that program for the M5, unfortunately.

I don't know if other programs would be able to modify the M5's LCM properly. I only know the Intravee allowed 3-blink.
 
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