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There's been a lot of talk about the new M5 that's coming out...but I havent seen too many people mention the possible performance of it. (maybe I missed that thread).

I'm gonna assume it has between 575-600hp, 500-550tq and weighs somewhere around 4200-4300lbs.

Jus for fun...here are my guesstimates:

0-60 = 3.8 ish (e60 M5 = 4.2ish)
0-100 = 8.7-8.8 (e60 M5 = 9.8-10.2)
1/4mi = 11.7-11.8 (e60 M5 = 12.4-12.6)
Ring Time = 7:54 (e60 M5 = 8:13??)

Maybe I'm close, maybe not...but they seem to be somewhat realistic numbers...What do you think?
 

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A 3.8 sec 0-60 is really tough for a RWD car regardless of power. My guess is 4.0.

My guess for the 1/4 is 12.00, though the 11.8 is not out of the question.
 

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Keep in mind, I am making these guesstimates off of what I think "actual" times will be, not what the manufacturer states. Heck the e60 M5 states 0-60mph at 4.7 or something, but actual is much closer to 4.2. Also, my thinking on the 0-60 time at 3.8 is because the CTS-V has recorded 3.9-4.0 times...and I think with the DCT and launch control the new M5 will get to 3.8 or so. I think it's going to be quicker than people give it credit for...however I do think it's losing it's "M" roots by going with FI and adding so much weight...

For now, I'm quite happy with the good ole screaming v10...it's intoxicating!
 

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I am able to easily run 3.8 and 3.9 second 0-60's in mine with less than optimal conditions, and I wouldn't be surprised if the F10 breaks 4.0.
 

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xraym5 - what type of 0-100 times and 1/4mi times are you seeing with your stroker?? I was lucky enough to pilot Trol's stroker and I was really impressed with the low end torque and overall smoothness of the power delivery. Quite an achievement!
 

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xraym5 - what type of 0-100 times and 1/4mi times are you seeing with your stroker?? I was lucky enough to pilot Trol's stroker and I was really impressed with the low end torque and overall smoothness of the power delivery. Quite an achievement!
It's tough for me to find a flat enough street up to 100 so don't have data on that yet, although strokers tend to run in the mid to high 8's for that.
 

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If it can do 0 - 100 in less than 4, it will be a mireacle.

Having a lot of torque will also mean that it will be difficult to find traction from a stand still, and it will loose a lot of time there just spinning wheels.
No it has a new Diff, this should help it a lot.
 

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I agree sub 4 sec 0-60 is tough for a heavy rwd car...but keep in mind the CTS-V has recorded sub 4 sec. times, and it's not exactly a featherweight...I have a feeling it will be very close!! After that, I think the performance will be monstrous. Every M that has come out has been "significantly" quicker than the previous model...so I expect much the same with the F10. I'm still loving the v10 though!!!!
 

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If an SL600, which makes significantly less hp is able to achieve 60 in 3.6 seconds, then the m5 could also possibly achieve similar times...

 

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I'd like to meet the SL600 that does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds...what a load of rubbish.

Plus we all know that the American figures are complete crap account of the "roll out". Makes a lot of cars that would otherwise never dream of being considered phenomenally quick look like they are. The E92 M3 with a DCT is 0-100km/h in 4.6, factory quoted. If it does 3.x to 60mph like is quoted above somewhere I will eat my hat, or a C63 doing anything like that either.

You Americans and your 0-60 times, you all need a slap in the head.
 

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I'd like to meet the SL600 that does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds...what a load of rubbish.

Plus we all know that the American figures are complete crap account of the "roll out". Makes a lot of cars that would otherwise never dream of being considered phenomenally quick look like they are. The E92 M3 with a DCT is 0-100km/h in 4.6, factory quoted. If it does 3.x to 60mph like is quoted above somewhere I will eat my hat, or a C63 doing anything like that either.

You American's and your 0-60 times, you all need a slap in the head.
I don't know how they were able to achieve that.. Anyways, here's that article:
Mercedes-Benz SL600 - Short Take Road Test - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver
 

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I'd like to meet the SL600 that does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds...what a load of rubbish.

Plus we all know that the American figures are complete crap account of the "roll out". Makes a lot of cars that would otherwise never dream of being considered phenomenally quick look like they are. The E92 M3 with a DCT is 0-100km/h in 4.6, factory quoted. If it does 3.x to 60mph like is quoted above somewhere I will eat my hat, or a C63 doing anything like that either.

You American's and your 0-60 times, you all need a slap in the head.

Makes me wonder what the "testers" would get with my stroker. Maybe 3.4 seconds? hiha
 

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The E60 can hit 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and run the 1/4 mile in 12.4

The F10 550i with 400 hp can hit 0-60 in 5.0 seconds and isn't much slower than the E60 through the quarter mile.

Now add another 160 Plus horsepower to that number - enter the F10 M5

Power will be immediate - with the turbo's spooling very quickly - torque will be through the roof

add the DCT into the mix - and you have lightning shifts - taking advantage of all that power.

Wait and see - The New M5 is going to wipe the floor with the Cadillac CTS V

0-60 in 4.0 seconds

1/4 mile - in 12.0 seconds

Believe it
 

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The E60 can hit 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and run the 1/4 mile in 12.4

The F10 550i with 400 hp can hit 0-60 in 5.0 seconds and isn't much slower than the E60 through the quarter mile.

Now add another 160 Plus horsepower to that number - enter the F10 M5

Power will be immediate - with the turbo's spooling very quickly - torque will be through the roof

add the DCT into the mix - and you have lightning shifts - taking advantage of all that power.

Wait and see - The New M5 is going to wipe the floor with the Cadillac CTS V

0-60 in 4.0 seconds

1/4 mile - in 12.0 seconds

Believe it
Not to mention a conversation I had with Karl Otto Noelle last November. Expect Dinan to ultimately come out with a package for the F10 M5 that yields around 1000 Lb-ft and 700+ horsepower. Despite the drawbacks of forced induction, we will see some pretty incredible options for significant power gains.
 

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The E60 can hit 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and run the 1/4 mile in 12.4

The F10 550i with 400 hp can hit 0-60 in 5.0 seconds and isn't much slower than the E60 through the quarter mile.

Now add another 160 Plus horsepower to that number - enter the F10 M5

Power will be immediate - with the turbo's spooling very quickly - torque will be through the roof

add the DCT into the mix - and you have lightning shifts - taking advantage of all that power.

Wait and see - The New M5 is going to wipe the floor with the Cadillac CTS V

0-60 in 4.0 seconds

1/4 mile - in 12.0 seconds

Believe it
If the Panamera times are realistic, which I find hard to believe...then the new M5 should be WAY better than 12 sec in the 1/4mi. The Panamera is doing 11.7 with 500hp and 517tq. The new M5 will be close to 600hp and 550 tq and weigh 200-300lbs less. And it has launch control. Sure, i know...you're gonna tell me about the 4wd etc...I just can't imagine the new M5 not being in the mid to high 11's. 11.6-11.8 seconds...all day long! And yes, sub 4 sec 0-60 times. Time will prove me correct! I'm sure BMW claims will be understated as always...but real data will give some extremely impressive results IMHO.
 
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