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Hi Guys,

well, it's taken us a very long time to actually get round to posting this! For those of you who follow what happens on the E39 section, we've been very busy over there working on NA tuned S62's. Taken a little longer than expected but the end result is quite satisfactory.

This is more of an introduction in this section about us and what we have been upto.

This software has been under going development for a lomg time with lots of breaks due to the above mentioned reasons.

Here it is and let us know what you think:

Wheel Figures:



Flywheel Calculated:



M5 on our dyno:



Pricing:

RRP - £999 inc VAT

Forum Discount 15% - £849 inc VAT

Export - £722/$1160 (Fluctuating with exchange rate)

Cable Optionj (available in 4 weeks) - additional £130 / $210

Those coming to us will get before and after dyno test done for no extra charge.
 

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Nice!

I have some questions from a potential customer in the US.

Is the tuned ECU file emailed to me?

I flash my ECU myself?

Do I need the $210 cable to do this, or is another option available?

Anyway for me to save the stock ECU file?

I have 4 years left on the warranty, and really don't want to risk losing that.

If I re-flash the stock file, is there anyway at all for the dealer to notice it was re-flashed? Like a time and or date stamp in the ECU, each time it is flashed.

Is the speed limit removed?

I think you mentioned rev limit is 8400 or 8500, correct?
 

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Hi,

sorry for the late reply.

The process:

You recieve cable and then allow us to remotely take over your PC.
We install the software for you and then extract the file from the car.
File is emailed to us.
We make the necessary changes and send the file back.
We load the file into the car for you.

All you guys do is provide us with an internet connection, plug the cable in and out of the car and turn the ignition on/off.

We can provide a cable that you don't need to keep but you might be in for a very long wait.

The cable you purchase stays with you and the loading of files only takes less than a minute.

There is no sign left that the ECU has been flashed. Dealer cannot say or do anything if there is stock software on the car.

Speed Limiter is removed.


Nice!

I have some questions from a potential customer in the US.

Is the tuned ECU file emailed to me?

I flash my ECU myself?

Do I need the $210 cable to do this, or is another option available?

Anyway for me to save the stock ECU file?

I have 4 years left on the warranty, and really don't want to risk losing that.

If I re-flash the stock file, is there anyway at all for the dealer to notice it was re-flashed? Like a time and or date stamp in the ECU, each time it is flashed.

Is the speed limit removed?

I think you mentioned rev limit is 8400 or 8500, correct?
 

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Thanks for the info. Couple more questions.

If I need to flash it back to stock for a dealer visit, can this be done by me, or do you have to remotely do it each time?

Does this also make the throttle more responsive or do I still need a sprint booster?

Thanks
 

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Thanks for the info. Couple more questions.

If I need to flash it back to stock for a dealer visit, can this be done by me, or do you have to remotely do it each time?

Does this also make the throttle more responsive or do I still need a sprint booster?

Thanks
You can do it very easily. We just do it initially as part of the service.

Throttle response is better. If you want it sharper we can do that for you at no extra charge and supply you another programme which you can keep. We do get our customers very involved and we can make changes you want. We can most certainly make it such that you won't need a sprint booster (signal bender!).
 

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What gear was the dyno pull done in? Looks like 3rd??

Also what octane is the tune for? 91? 93?

Do you have specific tunes for 91/93 octane or even 100 octane?
 

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Would you offer a money back guarantee? I might consider trying this but would like to have a shop here do some independent dyno tests too. Worst case scenario is that we'd remove your tune and put back my ESS tune and a refund is made.
 

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What gear was the dyno pull done in? Looks like 3rd??

Also what octane is the tune for? 91? 93?

Do you have specific tunes for 91/93 octane or even 100 octane?
3rd gear.

If we do the tests in 4th the readings are considerably higher.

This test was done with 99 octane Euro.
 

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Sorry! Just saw the price on the first post.

Have you guys brought in any of the tuned cars after some hundreds of kilometers to dyno again. If yes, are the results still consistent.
The tune is consistent.

What interests is me is this very question as two people have asked this now.

Has there been something we have missed on tunes losing power? Wouldn't surprise me if they did because of how some of the tunes are done!
 

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Would you offer a money back guarantee? I might consider trying this but would like to have a shop here do some independent dyno tests too. Worst case scenario is that we'd remove your tune and put back my ESS tune and a refund is made.
If you already have an ESS tune your only going to gain around 10hp no?

We would offer a money back guarantee but only if the testing is done consistently and this will require OBDII datalogging of the following temperatures:

- Intake
- Coolant inlet and outlet
- Oil

You will also need to do quite a few runs to allow the ECU to adapt. Typically the first run after the flash will actually lose power. As you run the car a few times the power will begin to rise and rise until it rises no more and stabalises. Keeping the temperatures down might be a bit challenging!
Once outlet coolant temperature rises dramatically above 70 DegC ECU will compensate by removing ignition and adding fuel so you'll need a very good cooling fan like ours and allow 1 min rests between runs.

Correct dyno testing requires a very thorough approach.

However, dyno's aside..... the road test is the one that really confirms if you would want to keep it or not!
 

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So the dyno charts reflect a car running on 99 octane?

What would the dyno be on 91/93 octane? That is the highest sold in the US with the exception of very few locations that sell 100 Octane (at $8 a gallon)
 

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So the dyno charts reflect a car running on 99 octane?

What would the dyno be on 91/93 octane? That is the highest sold in the US with the exception of very few locations that sell 100 Octane (at $8 a gallon)
Euro 99 ~ US 95

The car before this had 97 Euro~93 US and that made similar power.

I would not run these cars on 91 octane personally but you will see a very good power gain still.

None of our customers runs the equivalent of 91 US octane but it's a test I think we will be carrying out because of the availability issues in the US.

We will be carrying out alot more work on the V10 engine with intakes and exhausts, this is just the beginning.
 

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Euro 99 ~ US 95

The car before this had 97 Euro~93 US and that made similar power.

I would not run these cars on 91 octane personally but you will see a very good power gain still.

None of our customers runs the equivalent of 91 US octane but it's a test I think we will be carrying out because of the availability issues in the US.

We will be carrying out alot more work on the V10 engine with intakes and exhausts, this is just the beginning.
Hmm.....I only get 91 octane here in Cali so I'm wondering if this tune on 91 octane will basically yield similar results to my current ESS tune.
 

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Hmm.....I only get 91 octane here in Cali so I'm wondering if this tune on 91 octane will basically yield similar results to my current ESS tune.
We use 91 here too! And you saw my dyno charts after the CA Automotive map?

Let's find out what Evolve can do!
 

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Hmm.....I only get 91 octane here in Cali so I'm wondering if this tune on 91 octane will basically yield similar results to my current ESS tune.
What did you gain with your ESS tune on 91?

They quote 15-20RWHP as far as I can see.
 

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