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After the recent revelations that supposed board member mr m5 was actually board member cookiemonster's alter ego , the integrity and value of certain threads must now be questioned .

It is unfortunate that the green eyed monster appears to have reared it's ugly head recently and I feel that certain matters need to be clarified .

Cookie has been a close , personal friend of mine for over a year , attending my daughter's first birthday party in May 07 , sharing food in my house and holding my children in his arms . He has a lovely partner and our mutual love of E28 M5s originally brought us all together .

When his former UK RHD E28 M5 suffered a chain failure in Dec 2006 , I comforted and advised Cookie on possible remedies , even offering to view an M635csi on his behalf , with the intention of transplanting the engine into Cookie's car .

Cookie finally had his car's engine rebuilt , costing £4200 , before deciding to sell her in order to recoup some of his hard earned and believe me when I tell you that he works hard for his money .

After several failed attempts to sell on the bay of E with a £10,000 reserve and at least one viewing ,see email sent to Cookie on May 7th 07 below and his subsequent reply :

M8……nobody knows what your car is worth because there aren’t many about with that low mileage , 2 owners and the timing chain already done……<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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It is worth what you are willing to sell it for and most people will base their valuation on what you state it to be worth and expect to knock you down a little bit !<o:p></o:p>
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Remember one thing Cookie ……once you sell that car , it is very unlikely that you will ever come across another one for sale like it !<o:p></o:p>
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If the guy that is coming on Wednesday wants it , then he should have to pay very close to your reserve in my opinion !<o:p></o:p>
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Good luck ,<o:p></o:p>
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D

To which Cookie replied :

i know what you mean once it is gone it will be gone
but the cash is very tempting £10 k is the min i want
i just dont use it enough
but i might get cold feet but i dont want to mess bidders about and the guys that have looked at her
still 6 days to go
thanks for your advise as always
cookie

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After she failed to reach his £10,000 reserve , Cookie finally listed his car with a £5500 reserve , despite my protestations .I advised Cookie that I would be genuinely willing to give him £7,000 for No9 and not to sell her .At this time , she was bid £5,500 on the bay of E , thereby meeting his reserve ....... I put a genuine bid of £5600 on and would have been willing to go higher . Almost immediately , and with over a day to go , I was outbid .

The day of the auction end , I saw the the high bidder's bid had been cancelled and that I had won the auction at £5600 ....... needless to say , I was confused and shocked ! I was even more suprised upon receiving Cookie's invoice , congratulating me on winning her ( see below ) .

davey boy you have won cookie .

I replied to Cookie , assuring him that I was more than happy for him to keep the car , as we both knew her to be worth much more . He insisted that he was happy for me to have her and was a perfect gentleman when I arrived with my wife , 2 children and a brown envelope full of cash later that week .

If only we all knew then , what we know now !

After much deliberation and discussion , particularly with esteemed BMW Independant Specialist , Farrell , who begged me to keep No9 and sell No 66 ..... I totally ignored his advice and advertised No9 for sale , as I couldn't bear to give up on No66 after putting so much into her .

I can only imagine how Cookie felt when she sold for £10,000 , barely a month , a full valet and a service after I collected her .

I would assume that this was when the ugly deadly sin of envy began to emerge ........ we have all felt it at some point in our lives , although the decent among us , recognise it's negativity and subdue the emotion .

I can't begin to imagine how that emotion must have become all consuming when Cookie / mr m5 thought that there was a possibility that his former E28 M5 may be subsequently sold for a not unreasonable £14,995 ono .

His posts on this forum give some indication of the inner turmoil of a person that had owned something good and totally misjudged it's pedigree .

The fact that Cookie subsequently changed his Ebay id from 7641simon to an id containing the words classiccars ( my own id contains the words classicautos ) may reinforce the old cliche that imitation is the highest form of flattery , although I am not so sure .

What is for certain , is that , despite it being of no apparent benefit to himself , Cookie was determined to prove his point that the rare and beautiful E28 M5s were being overhyped and to a degree , in the short term , he appeared to do so .

I have since spoken to Simon / Cookie who initially denied everything , even giving me the email address of Paul , a guy that had been extremely kind to Simon when viewing his car last year , and telling me that he was mr m5 .....despite me knowing different .

Oh dear ........

I suppose when the new owner of No 13 , Diamond Davina , eventually decides to sell her for what she is really worth , I shall feel a touch of the emotion that Cookie felt , although somehow , I doubt it .

At least that guy knows and appreciates what great little cars these E28 M5s really are , so good luck to him !

It would be easy to become cynical , but , in the words of the great author , Charles Dickens , ' A loving heart is the truest wisdom ' !

Enjoy your cars , enjoy your passion .......

Best Wishes ,
D
 

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David
You know my feelings on this.
I know yours..first hand.:sad1:

I don't think you needed to add anything to the previous farce that is now
at an end.

All I will add is, that you acted transparently & you honoured the recent sale.:applause:
There is nothing more to say or clarify except maybe that this gets your
understandable feelings off your chest & in the open.

I would prefer that this matter closes here & now & that we are all the wiser
for this sorry affair.

Farrell
 

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David
You know my feelings on this.
I know yours..first hand.:sad1:

I don't think you needed to add anything to the previous farce that is now
at an end.

All I will add is, that you acted transparently & you honoured the recent sale.:applause:
There is nothing more to say or clarify except maybe that this gets your
understandable feelings off your chest & in the open.

I would prefer that this matter closes here & now & that we are all the wiser
for this sorry affair.

Farrell
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The world of pure economics is, I am sorry to say, often an ugly one.
 

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After the recent revelations that supposed board member mr m5 was actually board member cookiemonster's alter ego , the integrity and value of certain threads must now be questioned .

It is unfortunate that the green eyed monster appears to have reared it's ugly head recently and I feel that certain matters need to be clarified .

Cookie has been a close , personal friend of mine for over a year , attending my daughter's first birthday party in May 07 , sharing food in my house and holding my children in his arms . He has a lovely partner and our mutual love of E28 M5s originally brought us all together .

When his former UK RHD E28 M5 suffered a chain failure in Dec 2006 , I comforted and advised Cookie on possible remedies , even offering to view an M635csi on his behalf , with the intention of transplanting the engine into Cookie's car .

Cookie finally had his car's engine rebuilt , costing £4200 , before deciding to sell her in order to recoup some of his hard earned and believe me when I tell you that he works hard for his money .

After several failed attempts to sell on the bay of E with a £10,000 reserve and at least one viewing ,see email sent to Cookie on May 7th 07 below and his subsequent reply :

M8……nobody knows what your car is worth because there aren’t many about with that low mileage , 2 owners and the timing chain already done……ffice:eek:ffice" /><O:p></O:p>
<O:p> </O:p>
It is worth what you are willing to sell it for and most people will base their valuation on what you state it to be worth and expect to knock you down a little bit !<O:p></O:p>
<O:p> </O:p>
Remember one thing Cookie ……once you sell that car , it is very unlikely that you will ever come across another one for sale like it !<O:p></O:p>
<O:p> </O:p>
If the guy that is coming on Wednesday wants it , then he should have to pay very close to your reserve in my opinion !<O:p></O:p>
<O:p> </O:p>
Good luck ,<O:p></O:p>
<O:p> </O:p>
D

To which Cookie replied :

i know what you mean once it is gone it will be gone
but the cash is very tempting £10 k is the min i want
i just dont use it enough
but i might get cold feet but i dont want to mess bidders about and the guys that have looked at her
still 6 days to go
thanks for your advise as always
cookie

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After she failed to reach his £10,000 reserve , Cookie finally listed his car with a £5500 reserve , despite my protestations .I advised Cookie that I would be genuinely willing to give him £7,000 for No9 and not to sell her .At this time , she was bid £5,500 on the bay of E , thereby meeting his reserve ....... I put a genuine bid of £5600 on and would have been willing to go higher . Almost immediately , and with over a day to go , I was outbid .

The day of the auction end , I saw the the high bidder's bid had been cancelled and that I had won the auction at £5600 ....... needless to say , I was confused and shocked ! I was even more suprised upon receiving Cookie's invoice , congratulating me on winning her ( see below ) .

davey boy you have won cookie .

I replied to Cookie , assuring him that I was more than happy for him to keep the car , as we both knew her to be worth much more . He insisted that he was happy for me to have her and was a perfect gentleman when I arrived with my wife , 2 children and a brown envelope full of cash later that week .

If only we all knew then , what we know now !

After much deliberation and discussion , particularly with esteemed BMW Independant Specialist , Farrell , who begged me to keep No9 and sell No 66 ..... I totally ignored his advice and advertised No9 for sale , as I couldn't bear to give up on No66 after putting so much into her .

I can only imagine how Cookie felt when she sold for £10,000 , barely a month , a full valet and a service after I collected her .

I would assume that this was when the ugly deadly sin of envy began to emerge ........ we have all felt it at some point in our lives , although the decent among us , recognise it's negativity and subdue the emotion .

I can't begin to imagine how that emotion must have become all consuming when Cookie / mr m5 thought that there was a possibility that his former E28 M5 may be subsequently sold for a not unreasonable £14,995 ono .

His posts on this forum give some indication of the inner turmoil of a person that had owned something good and totally misjudged it's pedigree .

The fact that Cookie subsequently changed his Ebay id from 7641simon to an id containing the words classiccars ( my own id contains the words classicautos ) may reinforce the old cliche that imitation is the highest form of flattery , although I am not so sure .

What is for certain , is that , despite it being of no apparent benefit to himself , Cookie was determined to prove his point that the rare and beautiful E28 M5s were being overhyped and to a degree , in the short term , he appeared to do so .

I have since spoken to Simon / Cookie who initially denied everything , even giving me the email address of Paul , a guy that had been extremely kind to Simon when viewing his car last year , and telling me that he was mr m5 .....despite me knowing different .

Oh dear ........

I suppose when the new owner of No 13 , Diamond Davina , eventually decides to sell her for what she is really worth , I shall feel a touch of the emotion that Cookie felt , although somehow , I doubt it .

At least that guy knows and appreciates what great little cars these E28 M5s really are , so good luck to him !

It would be easy to become cynical , but , in the words of the great author , Charles Dickens , ' A loving heart is the truest wisdom ' !

Enjoy your cars , enjoy your passion .......

Best Wishes ,
D
It feels like I've entered a love triangle in eastenders,but it all seems like you have all sorted it now and it seems to me hunky -dory!!!

Does anyone have a drivers door to replace no.13s?

Dave.
 

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It feels like I've entered a love triangle in eastenders,but it all seems like you have all sorted it now and it seems to me hunky -dory!!!

Does anyone have a drivers door to replace no.13s?

Dave.
That's the beauty of Eastenders Dave , a bit of entertainment for everyone !

As for a whole new door , any E28 driver's door will do ......breakers , ebay , a neighbour's pride and joy .......take your pic m8 !

I'd think very seriously about having those remaining shims adjusted prior to doing any cosmetics m8 !

I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the car !

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Life throws a lot of crap at you-you prove with the choices that you make how much of it actually sticks !

Dave- you are Mr Teflon in my opinion

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I'm feeling sick that in this wonderful board happened that one acted like so:grrrrr:

I hope that admin or moderators will cancel as much as they can of what is related with that.

Regards,

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I'm feeling sick that in this wonderful board happened that one acted like so:grrrrr:

I hope that admin or moderators will cancel as much as they can of what is related with that.

Regards,

Batmobile-Alessandro
My thoughts exactly Alessandro .......we had always been one big happy m5 loving family !

It's a crying shame !
 

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I think it's in everyone's interest to avoid an Eastender's type of drama happening here.

If Cookie would like to post his view of the above then Gustav or myself would be happy to post on his behalf. That does require a mature, factual and constructive post - not mudslinging or stirring up more trouble.

In that case please email [email protected] and refer to:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=111350
Send it from the email address you used to register the Cookiemonster account here.
 
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