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mfiver - Can you please provide me with the spec info for 003 & 006

Hi Mfiver,

Recently joined the forum and still a novice learning my way around it. I share 2 E28 M5's with a friend numbers 003 & 006. Could you tell me all the information that you can about these two cars that you have I would be most grateful.

003 is a real good old car but starting to show her age now and so we are going to start resto this coming winter. 006 recently purchased from 4 star is totally standard and looks to have been pampered all it's life and that is how it will stay although weather permitting we may take it to Gaydon.

Have you ever come across 001, 002, 004,or 005? Would be really interested to find out what happened to all the other really early build cars.
 

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Jez (and all),

Apologies for long silence.

Good to hear you have 2 cars to share - I saw 003 at the Gaydon festival some years ago. It would be good to see 006 this year!

003 - Solid black (one of 6 ECE/RHD cars this colour), Pearl beige leather, 339 Satin Black chrome, 715 M-Technic aerodynamic styling kit. Built 05/1986 (week 20). First registered 05/08/1986, BMW demonstration fleet, Bracknell. I seem to recall it's still on the original registration mark - D812 ---: many M5's have had registration mark changes over the years.

006 - Alpine white (one of 17 ECE/RHD cars this colour), Black leather, 339 Satin Black chrome. Also built 05/1986 (week 20) but registered 01/02/1987 by Park Lane Ltd, Brentford - so it hung around in stock for a while - not uncommon. They didn't all fly out of the showrooms. Does this car still have the original registration mark D777 ---?

If you have the original handbook/service records, I would be very interested to know where the PDI's were carried out. My guess is that 003 was done at the factory while 006 was done by the supplying dealer.

Of the other early cars, I believe 001 probably no longer exists, have no information on 002 but am aware that 004 most certainly exists (the owner posts on here from time to time).

Hope this helps a bit!

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Mfiver
 

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006 and now 077

Thanks mfiver much appreciated the info.

To answer your question 006 is now registered D631 GSP and 003 registered D812 VBL. I don't have books with me at present 003 in storage and 006 still with 4 star in storage we think we will get them to take it to Gaydon and we will collect it there. I still have not seen it myself yet so looking forward to meeting her as well.

Latest and last acquisition for time being just purchased 077 from fellow forum member m5wagon in Aberdeen and she is registered D391 YSS.

Plans are to renovate 077 to a high standard as she is so unique with the all leather interior.

003 M5 and 409 M635CSI are both also going to get renovation to some degree but both Ed and I want to use these two as our summer daily drivers.

Thanks for info keep it coming.

Jez 8464
 

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Hi mate,

As you are the fountain of knowledge on all things BMW I could do with your help. See my reply to Goodwood thread of E28 next to latest M5 - We are looking for another car can you help?
 

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Mfiver - pdi info on 003

Morning mfiver

you asked for pdi info on 003. I went to fetch books yesterday and can confirm the following,

1.8.86 PDI done at Almondbury Garage Ltd, Somerset Road, Huddersfield HD5 8LZ Tel 515515

The running in inspection done by same garage on 20.9.86 at 1126 miles.

Hope this is what you wanted.

006 Not picked up car or books yet so will get that one for you later.

077 was done by BMW Motorsport GmbH, DaimlerstraBe 19, 8046 Garching on the 17.09.86

Running in Inspection done by John Clark (spec cars) Ltd, 150 Gray Street, Aberdeen AB1 6JW Tel 0224 313355 on 30.09.86 at 1207 miles.

Speak soon
 

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This (Carmine red) car is owned by a well-known member of the BMW Car Club GB who is in fact the Club parts contact, based in the North West. The car has had considerable work in the last couple of years - when new it was a Press car on a 'C' prefix registration mark.

A good reason for any UK E28 M5 owner to be a member of the Club - you can be sure that parts advice is from an expert professional with a strong personal interest!

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Mfiver
 

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Mfiver - Can you advise spec details on the Carmine Red Car please. Build no interior options etc would be real interested to know.
 

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Jez,

014, Anthracite cloth, 902 Press preparation. This car was the only ECE/RHD E28 M5 supplied in Carmine.

Why the particular interest in early cars?

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We are interested in all E28 M5's but is just so happens that we have always purchased the older ones no particular reason.

The information though was for my own database that I have been creating. So far over the last few years I have been able to prove the existence of at least 51 RHD cars still in existence with another 5 that I have not been able to trace chassis numbers etc.

If you want to send me your email address I will send it over you may be able to fill in a few gaps for me.

[email protected]

NB Although in many cases I do have owners details and phone numbers I never forward this info just details of the cars.
 

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I couldn't find a "spotted" thread, so hoped a little off topic revival of this one wouldn't hurt...

Spotted D391 YSS today at BMW Battersea when I popped in for parts. Is it still yours Jez? Is it in for anything serious?

A quick google brought up this thread and the posts from late 2011.

Really liked the look of the extended leather!
 

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Well Spotted Gruber

Hi Gruber I am impressed - what did you think of the old girl.

I was going to do a slow restoration of the car myself - already done the leather so glad you liked it - but I am spending more and more time abroad with my business now and decided that I either needed to sell the car to someone who I knew would restore it or I had to get someone to do it all for me. I spoke to the BMW Batersea guys at NEC last November and they were so keen and eager to do the car that I have sent it to them. They are in the process of inspecting and costing out everything for me and then we are looking to start the work probably July time depending on their workload. I have verbally agreed a timescale with them of up to 2 years so that we can do everything she requires.

Engine - Fit timing chain and possibly also rebuild depending on what Inspection finds.

Body - New wings, sunroof (metal) + panels as required then full respray.

Then depending on cost I have asked for them to look at replacing / renew braking system, cooling system, change exhaust to stainless etc...

Ultimately goal is to return her to the specification as she left the factory so that will be no M tech bodykit just the rear boot spoiler.

I have asked them to do a full photographic report on each stage as in between trips I was going to record the rebuild on the forum if other members thought it would be of interest, what do you think?
 

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Blimey! That's quite a project!!

Hats off to you for biting the bullet - you'll have a magnificent car once it's finished. I'd be interested to know their labour rates - do they offer any sort of discount for major projects on the older models?

It looked pretty good "as is" but I spotted the rust to the top of the nearside wing and wondered if it was in for panel work.

Keep us up to speed with it!

And I don't live far from there, so I'd be happy to pop in and check on progress while you're overseas ;)
 

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Hi Gruber would be great if you could pop in occasionally and update me my email is [email protected]. I have asked them for a quarterly update with some pictures and they seem happy to do this.

Price - I have still to agree with them the cost because a) it depends on what the inspection report turns up and b) depends on how far I want to go with the replace / renew theme. They did say as a member of BMW Car Club I automatically get a discount but also they did say that if they were given the complete restoration job that they would also do me a discounted rate. The final clincher was that they said any parts that are no longer available off the shelf they will be able to source or manufacture direct from BMW.

I think some people might not understand the restoration when the car does not look too bad but I think like any car of this age once you start to look under the skin more and more jobs appear so ultimately this might turn out cheaper than doing one job at a time and never really ending up with the car 'finished'.
 

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Hi all. After 23 years of patience (long story), I was finally given the opportunity to own #009. It travelled from NJ to the Philippines in 2007 and now in Oct 2013 it's finally mine.

WBSDC9304J2791009
Build date 11/1986
Production Code DC93

I'll check for the build sheet if it's still there and post it on here.
The beautiful thing about this car is I know its history from 1988!



 

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The Polaris silver Nov 1987 might be mine, here in Australia.

It probably was me that suggested in a previous post that July '86 was a significant month - 13 of the 20 Special Paint cars were recorded in that month, just over half of RHD production, suggesting an attempt was made to build a batch. Thinking about this, it's more likely that the shells were already built and painted as a batch some time before.....perhaps BMW GB was working out a cost with BMW AG! One was built in May 86 (out of 15 RHD cars) - one with Special Upholstery Two in June 86 (out of 35 RHD cars) Thirteen in July 86 (out of 25 RHD cars) - one with Special Upholstery Two in September 86 (out of 24 RHD cars) One in November 86 (the only RHD car completed that month) One in November 87 (last RHD car, completed 2 months after previous RHD car) No cars were built in August 86 - this would have been the factory summer shut-down. The June cars were the last two of RHD production that month; the first July cars had Special paint. These 15 cars (2+13) span the VIN range 052-077. One other GB car, in Malachite green rather than Special paint, was built in February 87 with Special Upholstery. A couple of the July 86 builds were standard cars with no other options (other than usual GB spec) and Anthracite cloth trim, which suggests they may have been ordered for dealer or BMW GB stock, perhaps added to make up the numbers required to get the Special paint price down to a marketable level (wild guess). In theory metallic paint was a no-cost option for a GB customer but I wonder if Special Paint commanded a premium against Net Landed Cost, which the dealer had to swallow? It would be great to find someone who could add hard fact to this subject.....I would imagine that there were some fairly interesting things happening to top-flight 6 and 7 series cars, too, at this point. Mfiver
Was GB production not combined with Australia's? If so, the last Polaris silver RHD M535i Nov 1987 might be mine if so, here in Australia. I haven't looked at her for a while, she's in the garage under covers. Factory optioned with Leather 'captain's' seats, 4HP22EH and a 3.65 LSD. Unmolested and went really well when I bought her 5 years ago. One day, I'll start doing the bodywork and put her back on the road..
 
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