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I'll be taking the M5 from L.A. to Phoenix and back again next month and was wondering if it would be advisable to get radar for protection on the the open road. I would not get one otherwise.

If it is advisable what would you recommend specifically for the radar used in AZ. :confused: I'd consider plugging one into the cig lighter socket on a temporary "as needed" basis if it wasn't too expensive.

Thanks in advance. (I searched the forrum and found a lot on radar detectors but not this specifice question)
 

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Absolutely!

When I first got my M5 (last September) I did the drive on the 10 and outside of Blythe a Highway Patrol was going the other way while I was passing a Lexus and *BAM!* he turned around at the next chance. I slowed and pulled to the slow lane, but he pulled me over anyways.

Said he had me at 93. He reduced it to 85 so I could go to traffic school (on-line is the best!).

After the ticket and he was getting ready to walk away he asked if I had a radar detector. I said, no. He said, "****, really, you slowed very fast.". I said, "Well, I was looking...". ;)

I would highly recommend it. I have the V1 and it rocks. If you choose not the get one, just take it very easy for the 20 miles into and out of Blythe. They are all over the place there.

I do that drive every couple of months and it can be a great run. :wroom: Don't ruin it with a ticket.

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I second getting the V1. I've seen AZ patrol hanging out in the center median, concealed by the vegetation, looking for someone racing by.
 

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Not to be impolite, but if you searched this forum I cannot believe that you are asking your question. The answer is YES. Forget about getting one specific to Arizona as you need protection for all of the radar frequencies that the cops use. My guess would be that all three bands (X, K, and Ka) are used in AZ.

While I recommend the V1 as being the best for radar detection, (and I think that many of our fellow members would agree) the Escort X-50 and the new BEL are used by some memebers (we have two threads in progress concerning which of the three is best).

I also recommend you use which ever one you purchase for all your driving. Never leave home without it. IMO you are more vulnerable in your local driving than highway driving.

Although the V1 and the X50 (I am not that familiar with the BEL) radar detectors have laser capabilities, I think you will find that most folks would recommend a separate laser detection/jamming setup.

But to answer you specific question - get a radar detector and use it for all your driving. The cost may seem high (300 to 400 dollars), but just one ticket can cost you much more than that in fines, insurance surcharges, and Dept Motor Vehicles surcharges.
 

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In a car as capable as the M5, a radar detector is the bare minimum. I suggest getting a V1, and being smart on the road. Those two things will significantly reduce your chances of tickets, but you still are vulnerable. Ideally, you would have a V1, Lidatek, and police scanner.

Keep in mind, there is no replacement for a set of good alert eyes.

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In a word, YES. AZ. had the most aggressive radar coverage of the five states I travelled through (LA.,TX.,NM.,CA.,AZ). It was so bad between Tuscan and Phoenix that I thought my V1 was broken! I counted no less than 14 seperate radar hits that all turned out to be police in a 75 mile stretch.

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SCORPIO said:
Absolutely!
I would highly recommend it. I have the V1 and it rocks. If you choose not the get one, just take it very easy for the 20 miles into and out of Blythe. They are all over the place there.

I do that drive every couple of months and it can be a great run. :wroom: Don't ruin it with a ticket.

SCORPIO
Lots of great advice her that I appreciate very much. I have been following several threads and surmise there are a lot of V1 fans here.
I have used radar units in the past, 10 yrs ago and just got annoyed with all the racket and stopped using it. (It wasn't a V1, Escort I think). In the 3 1/2 yrs 've had the M5, I've only gotten 1 ticket. Maybe it's luck.

I am warming to the idea of getting the V1 with the Stealthone display in the nav unit which looks very attractive. I'm not thrilled about hanging it from the windshield. I've read about mounting it in the rear center headrest by Ohmess, very creative and totally stealth!

Thanks again for your patience and advice. Maybe I shouldn't press my luck :nono: and get some help by installing a V1. ouich
 

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I would recomend one if you have the cash, but it is not a requirement. I have travelled that route about 20 times now driving back and forth to school, and I dont have a detector. My last ticket was 4 years ago, and it wasnt for speeding. I do speed quite often, but the trick is just dont be the fastest out there, and dont go more than 15 over. DPS (AZ's version of CHP) wont pull you unless you are going more than 10 over. That 5mph gives you a little buffer.
Now if you plan on doing any high speed runs (which is tempting out there), then by all means get a detector.
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Now if you plan on doing any high speed runs (which is tempting out there), then by all means get a detector.
:cheers:
Just placed the order for the V1. They said no major upgrades in the pipeline so I feel comfortable. 2'nd day air $406 delivered. Will try it out on a road trip to CO in a Suburban on Sunday.
 

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Just placed the order for the V1. They said no major upgrades in the pipeline so I feel comfortable. 2'nd day air $406 delivered. Will try it out on a road trip to CO in a Suburban on Sunday.
Great! A couple of comments regarding what I've read here:

- You really want to mount the unit as high as possible for best performance. The top of the windshield is probably the best place.
- If you don't want to plug it into the cig lighter, just get the hardwire kit and hook it up in the overhead. It's a very clean setup, and keeps the cig lighter open for charging something else like your phone on a long trip.
- If you install the unit in the rear headrest, you'll need to cut holes in the leather to keep laser detection. Otherwise you'll only get radar.
- If you really want a great stealth setup, look at www.jaricdesign.com and check out the Stealth One. Great unit, and it displays on the IKE, which I prefer to looking up at the rear view...

Good Luck!

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Great! A couple of comments regarding what I've read here:

- You really want to mount the unit as high as possible for best performance. The top of the windshield is probably the best place.
- If you don't want to plug it into the cig lighter, just get the hardwire kit and hook it up in the overhead. It's a very clean setup, and keeps the cig lighter open for charging something else like your phone on a long trip.
- If you install the unit in the rear headrest, you'll need to cut holes in the leather to keep laser detection. Otherwise you'll only get radar.
- If you really want a great stealth setup, look at www.jaricdesign.com and check out the Stealth One. Great unit, and it displays on the IKE, which I prefer to looking up at the rear view...

Good Luck!

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I like stealth so I am leaning on the headrest install and maybe giving up the laser if I find it's not used to much here. Otherwise I might try to figure out how big a hole I need and have some clear plastic sewn in?? Haven't thought that far ahead.
Stelthone looks like the ticket for me. I'll be taking it on a drive in the Burban to CO to test it out this weekend. When I get back in a couple of weeks, I'll start the process of adding it to the M5 with Stealthone.

Any thoughts on finding the I-bus and switched 12v in the trunk area so I don't have to run the wires up front??
Thanks so much for the tips!! :M5thumbs:

This board has been once again invaluable :byee55amg
 

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Just another thought on rear headrest install. You will probably want to purchase the remote audio module from Valentine so you can control the volumes from the front of the car and hear the unit when it beeps.

Not sure about I-Bus in the trunk. I know another member was looking for the same, but don't recall if they found a solution...

Good Luck!
 

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Just another thought on rear headrest install. You will probably want to purchase the remote audio module from Valentine so you can control the volumes from the front of the car and hear the unit when it beeps.Good Luck!
I was thinking that the Stealthone would control the volume. Are you saying that the volume has to vbe controlled by the V1 and the sound will come out of the V1 unit? Please clarify :confused2
 

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YEX YES YES epseically on that section of the I-10 because the cops use blacked out American muscle cars to patrol (think driving to Vegas from LA.) The Valentine 1 is the best, hands down.

Have fun driving.


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I was thinking that the Stealthone would control the volume. Are you saying that the volume has to vbe controlled by the V1 and the sound will come out of the V1 unit? Please clarify :confused2
No, the S1 will not control the volume. The functions you would have available at the steering wheel and nav are limited to changing the setup of the S1, changing the "mode" (L,l,A) of the V1, and mute. You cannot control the volume of the V1 through the S1 or steering wheel controls. You'll need to get the remote audio thingy from Valentine and mount that in the dash.

Even with the S1 installed, the sounds still comes from the V1 main unit unless you have the remote audio adapter. The remote audio adapter has a speaker that will make the sounds...

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Before you spend a lot of time and money trying to be "stealthy", why not try placing it on the dashboard in the middle of the dash during your test drive this weekend. Since the cops can spot when you use the suction cup windshield mount I bet they easliy miss seeing it placed on the dash as you pass by (unless of course the policeman is standing at the driver's window). Can be stealthy with the visor mount, so long as you do not need to use the visor. Mounted on the dashboard with velcro will hold it there yet let you take it down when not driving the car or to move to another car. You will have radar detection from front and rear, and laser (such as it is) from the front. Just a thought -- works quite well for me.
 

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Before you spend a lot of time and money trying to be "stealthy", why not try placing it on the dashboard in the middle of the dash during your test drive this weekend. Since the cops can spot when you use the suction cup windshield mount I bet they easliy miss seeing it placed on the dash as you pass by (unless of course the policeman is standing at the driver's window). Can be stealthy with the visor mount, so long as you do not need to use the visor. Mounted on the dashboard with velcro will hold it there yet let you take it down when not driving the car or to move to another car. You will have radar detection from front and rear, and laser (such as it is) from the front. Just a thought -- works quite well for me.
Great idea. :p I'll be taking another car this weekend and will do exactly that, put it on the dash or visor and give it a good workout first. I'll report back next week.
 
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