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Dinan Super-charged M5, 19 pics

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#1 · (Edited)
Hi,

I have the pleasure to meet Rob, the proud owner of the first ever Dinan super-charged E39 M5, and his 620 HP Uber-Beast this afternoon.

Without further adieu, here's the album where the 19 pics are at.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4289024727

Any picture posting guru (Jason you hear? :hihi: :hihi:) is welcomed to lift these pics and post onto the thread. I'm such a numb-skull in this department I have yet to master this vital skill.

Rob's beautiful 00 Silverstone M5 (silverstone interior as well, a great combo) was already there when I drove up. Luck would have it that I could park right next-stall. He opened the hood and I took a few shots. Unfortunately, there was not really a lot to see as most items are quite well hidden. Also, these are R&D parts and Dinan will make them nice and pretty before the actual kit hits the street. At that time, all of the parts in Rob's car will be switched over as well. But the true beauty of this mod is never in the cosmetics anyway

He needed to return to his cigar-tasting buddies so we spent about 15-20 minutes together. He was kind enough to start the car and the deep resonance of the S2 package and the Dinan exhaust was pure heavenly.

A few more points of interest. Rob said that the engine compression is still 11.4:1. While Dinan added an inter-cooler (driver side fog light location), there is no added oil-cooler. (The Porsches guys will freak when they hear this). However, through 600 miles of hard driving in the Sierras, the oil temperature stayed in the normal range. This is an incredible feat as I'd expect the SC engine to prduce a lot more heat.

He walked over his own 996TT with his M5 and completely humuliated an RS6 wanting to play. The Audi guy got what he asked for. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Never knew what hit him.

I did not drive the car as it was 5 pm in a busy part of town, so no fun on the road anyways. W may get together again some other time to exchange cars, as Rob frankly does not remember how a stock M5 drives anymore. Remember his car is at Dinan for 2+ years. May be I can get more and better shots at that time, plus a more in-depth report.

I must thank Rob for sharing his incredible beast with us. He said I can post this thread as he will not get to take his own pictures for a few weeks, and he knows we are all starining our neck to have a first look at this beauty.

So enjoy. :cheers: :cheers:

CP
 
#3 ·
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Need I say more?

Race it with the W211 E55! :haha:
 
#4 ·
Pretty kewl, now I need some videos :) and production info :)
 
#5 ·
Dinan v. RMS

It appears that the SC is on the passenger side in the Dinan install, while RMS has it on the drivers side (North Amercian version)? Different superchargers or just different philosophies? Would love to see some video of the UberBeast in action...................
Regards,
Jerry (forced induction envy):)
 
#6 ·
Thanks to Rob for making the car available, and Chunpng for the great pictures. Hope Rob will keep us informed with updates from time to time. Now let's see what Dinan will pull together for the market.
 
#7 ·
Re: Dinan v. RMS

gsfent said:
It appears that the SC is on the passenger side in the Dinan install, while RMS has it on the drivers side (North Amercian version)? Different superchargers or just different philosophies? Would love to see some video of the UberBeast in action...................
Regards,
Jerry (forced induction envy):)
Intercooler vs no intercooler
 
#9 ·
Jayson
I thought only the "base" version of the RMS SC kit was without an intercooler. I am pretty sure Stage 2 and 3 have intercoolers. Black M5 care to chime in???
Regards,
Jerry
 
#10 ·
looks good.. very clean install
 
#11 · (Edited)
gsfent said:
Jayson
I thought only the "base" version of the RMS SC kit was without an intercooler. I am pretty sure Stage 2 and 3 have intercoolers. Black M5 care to chime in???
Regards,
Jerry
2 and 3 or just 3 i forget uses an aftercooler.

Edit, soory hit the button too soon.

The aftercooler is also looked in where with the vilocity stacks so theres no need to route out to the front for cool air.
 
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#12 · (Edited)
Thanks Pong for posting and taking the time to meet Rob. The real trick would be to compare this setup to the one offered by RMS. Also of note, is that the RMS intercooler spans the entire front grille, which begs the question, why Dinan has such a small intercooler duct?

Power delivery consistency is crucial with superchargers, otherwise it looses its predicability when driving. It would be interesting to feel the power, as I already feel that I have enough power to do everything I want. Someone would have to work pretty hard to convince me to spend another $30K for a little more push.

Cheers.
 
#13 ·
BeastPower said:

Power delivery consistency is crucial with superchargers, otherwise it looses its predicability when driving. It would be interesting to feel the power, as I already feel that I have enough power to do everything I want. Someone would have to work pretty hard to convince me to spend another $30K to a little more push.

Cheers.
Daniel,

According to Rob and Robert, his friend who rode down with him from Walnut Creek, the power band is totally linear from 1,000 RPM on. He has a 7,300 RPM limiter, ala Dinan chip. They detect no soft or flat spots throughout the RPM band, in any gear.

Just imagine what this car with a Power Chip will feel like. :eek: :eek: A jet turbine may be. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

CP
 
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#15 ·
chunpng said:
Daniel,

According to Rob and Robert, his friend who rode down with him from Walnut Creek, the power band is totally linear from 1,000 RPM on. He has a 7,300 RPM limiter, ala Dinan chip. They detect no soft or flat spots throughout the RPM band, in any gear.

Just imagine what this car with a Power Chip will feel like. :eek: :eek: A jet turbine may be. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

CP
Pong,
The level of consistency that you describe seems ideal. I would be interested in seeing if the car still feels balanced, and whether the addition of the S/C does anything for track driving.

Cheers.
 
#16 ·
I've got goosebumps. :eek:
I don't think Dinan will be beating out the RMS system in looks, but still very impressive.
:cheers:
 
#17 ·
Re: Zero to 60?? 1/4 mile??

HotRod said:
Any word on the performance numbers?? Guestimates??

Thanks Pong!!

HotRod
HotRod,

Seeing that this car carries 6.6#/pony (4,100# on 620hp), my guess for the 0-60 mph time would be 3.5 - 3.6 seconds. Traction is more of a problem when there' so much power at the crank. Also, a 996tt carries 7.2 #/pony and does 0-60 in about 3.7 seconds, but it's AWD so it's easier to launch.

Quarter mile time is harder. My guess is high elevens. I don't think the M5, being a sedan in shape, is designed to be a 10 second car, no matter the power and torque.

Mind you that this is purely my guess, like pulling numbers out of the air.

CP
 
#19 ·
hmmm I have a small question.hmmm

Guys have said you must purchase the full S2 package first, and then the S/C package.

Question is, Why would they make you put on the CAI when it is all gone in those pics with a totally different intake. hmmm

Somethings not Koshia. (SP).

So either you DON'T have to start with an S2 or Dinan are making you buy $3,500 worth of CAI, MAFS etc for nothing as they will be removed.hmmm

So our choice of answers are only 2.

1. We are being taken for another Dinan ride, OR

2. You don't have to buy the S2 package to get the Dinan S/C and therefor it is a lot cheaper than $30K (S2) + $30K S/C.
 
#20 · (Edited)
Mark im with you something doesnt sit right about the install on this thing to me...

Looking at the right side we see what is presumed to be the CAI but then on the left you have another one with the supercharger installed and then it blows into the silcone pipe that it shares with the CAI? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Can anyone explain to me how this setup flows?

And The RMS setup looks a billion times better...although those intercoolers hidden in the fogs are pretty stealth, but if im going to spend nearly 60K on a supercharger/performance pkg...i want the biggest meanest looking intercooler possible to let people know i mean business.

That's it, no more "nice" Mr. Triflow.....Calling RMS today to finalize. Daniel (Beast Power) Gonna Need that hood ASAP!
 
#21 ·
TriflowM5+M3 said:

Can anyone explain to me how this setup flows?

And The RMS setup looks a billion times better...

But Pong said this is the R&D set up not the actual setup so thats why it looks all weird.
 
#24 ·
Im sure the Dinan, when finalized will look much better than in these pictures. Carbon is simple to have made. If I'm not mistaken the Dinan kit seems to have a bypass valve to keep those intake temps down, but I don't think the RMS kit has one. Anyone know about this?
 
#25 · (Edited)
TriflowM5+M3 said:
Mark im with you something doesnt sit right about the install on this thing to me...

Looking at the right side we see what is presumed to be the CAI but then on the left you have another one with the supercharger installed and then it blows into the silcone pipe that it shares with the CAI? :confused: :confused: :confused:



That's it, no more "nice" Mr. Triflow.....Calling RMS today to finalize. Daniel (Beast Power) Gonna Need that hood ASAP!
My understanding of this setup goes as follow: the SC is on the passenger's side with a CAI probably going down in the passenger's side bumper. It's then compressed by the SC, brough down with a pipe, in front of the radiator to the Intercooler which is on the driver's side, then goes back up to the intake manifold.

Now, the silicone pipe you see from the front of the intake manifold to the CAI intake system is a Deviator Valve or whatever it's called. It's the same thing as a BOV, except it brings back the air in the airstream again. I don't know your SC or Turbo knowledge, but when you lift off the gas, the air is already moving towards the throttle body at a higher than atmospheric pressure. Slamming the plate of TB makes the air surge and go backwards, thus slowing down the Turbo, or in this case, the SC and putting extra load on the blades of the charger. I know that a SC is belt driven, but it still has to have somekind of DV or BOV. That's why you see a kind of valve (DV) on the silicone hose, IMO.

-Olivier
 
#26 ·
TriflowM5+M3 said:

That's it, no more "nice" Mr. Triflow.....Calling RMS today to finalize. Daniel (Beast Power) Gonna Need that hood ASAP!
Hey Rob,

When is your car scheduled to be at RMS, and when will they finish? I'm sure you're doing stage 2 (3?) with the high boost. What kind of numbers are you aiming for?

CP