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Hey all, this'll probably be my last trip to Difeo BMW..but before I pay the bill, I wanted to see if $123/hr is in any way, shape or form "fair" for this section of the country.

BMW NA finally got back to me and is willing to cover parts + 10%. I accepted this, since I'm not sure they would've done better...and it's been almost 3 weeks since this whole ordeal began!!!!

Anyway, now I'm stuck with labor and taxes. Should I even be paying tax on an intangible commodity (labor)???

Thanks for all your help guys/gals!
 

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that is probably close, the chevy dealer here charges $85 a hour to work on a blazer..

That is why people call them Stealerships..
 

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Hey all, this'll probably be my last trip to Difeo BMW..but before I pay the bill, I wanted to see if $123/hr is in any way, shape or form "fair" for this section of the country.

BMW NA finally got back to me and is willing to cover parts + 10%. I accepted this, since I'm not sure they would've done better...and it's been almost 3 weeks since this whole ordeal began!!!!

Anyway, now I'm stuck with labor and taxes. Should I even be paying tax on an intangible commodity (labor)???

Thanks for all your help guys/gals!
My dealer gets $125 at the BMW store, I think $110 at the Audi store, not sure what they get at the Porsche store. DiFeo has been around a long time, if Sam DiFeo is still in charge, he was known as Sam Jr. when I was still in NJ and he must be 70 by now!
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Phoenix, AZ:

$115.00 per hour at BMW of North Scottsdale.
$72.00 per hour at Evolution Motorsports (Dinan Dealer), Tempe,AZ
 
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Dealers are crazy, in what they charge. If you can, you are much better off finding a specialist, who will give you more attention, better service, for half the money.

Cheers, Daniel.
 

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My local stealership in Connecticut charges $100/hour. I'm on a quest for a reliable private mechanic. I know the words "reliable" and "private mechanic" in the same sentence sound like an oxymoron. I know there's got to be at least one out there!? Anyone have any advice or suggestions in the CT area of the Northeast?

Thnxs in advance
 

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Good mechanics are hard to find and when you find one if his rate is $123 dollars per hour pay it. Look at value for your money not price. If you think you can get a competent mechanic to work on a complex machine like a M5 for half the price I think you should skip all the way to the bank. I doubt it though.
 

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It may be HIGH, but it's my asumption that the Dealer, Especially the Shop foreman, has heard of or can acquire info that most independents don't know. Like for intermittent problems or electrical glitches.

They have all the latest tools and training. I don't like paying it either but I do feel that the Tech's can do the work a lot faster.

Having said that, If it is just replacing the brakes or changing the oil, or the usual replacement of parts, then an Indepent would be the way to go. One must weigh the service with the intelligence required to complete the task to one's satisfaction.

I'm so **** picking about things that sometimes I must go to the dealer even if I don't want to...Lol Just to please my curiousity hiha :haha: hiha

Just me .04 cents...Inflation you know :eek:h:
 

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Dealers are crazy, in what they charge. If you can, you are much better off finding a specialist, who will give you more attention, better service, for half the money.

Cheers, Daniel.
Dealers are NOT crazy! People pay them that because they've bought into the lie that the dealers mechanics are the only real 'experts' for these 'impossibly complex' cars....

Right.

IMHO, the hourly rate you pay is rarely correlated with the expertise and service you receive. HOWEVER, once you find a qualified technician, pay them what keeps them happy for those tasks that need their expertise.


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PS BMW and the dealer love the parts/labor split: It costs BMW only 30% of the list price to give you those parts.. AND the dealer gets to charge you $123 an hour for the book time, not $70 an hour under the warranty reimbursement rate... I once took a mfg up on that deal and insisted on them giving me the parts to install (an AC system for a Furd aerostar)..they did, I found someone else to install them
 

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lsdvm said:
Anyway, now I'm stuck with labor and taxes. Should I even be paying tax on an intangible commodity (labor)???
That's up to your state's legislature.

Here in New Jersey, I'm forced to collect 6% state sales tax on labor. In Arizona, you are only supposed to charge sales tax on labor when that labor is used to make an improvement on real estate. So the labor for a repair to a furnace in Arizona is not taxable, but the labor to upgrade to a bigger furnace is taxable. Here in New Jersey, it would make no difference. All labor is taxed.

Check with your state's department of revenue.
 
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Dealers are NOT crazy! People pay them that because they've bought into the lie that the dealers mechanics are the only real 'experts' for these 'impossibly complex' cars....
Agreed!

Cheers, Daniel.
 

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In PA we have to collect 6% tax on parts & labor. :sad1:
In Florida, there is no sales tax on labor only or if parts are an "inconsequential" part of the labor (typically a nut or a bolt, carb spray etc.) for say installing your part. If you buy the part at the dealer, you pay tax on both, unless you do it as 2 separate transactions. No sales tax should be collected on a diagnosis where all that is done is hook up the car to the computer. Most dealers don't know/understand/care about the distinctions, so you always pay sales tax as it doesn't come out of their pocket unless they fail to collect it on something they should have collected it on.
My indepenent mechanics charge between $60-$80 an hour for real time, and then we sometimes adjust it for PITA factor. In 15 years, I only had a question one time, and it turns out it took my mech the book time to do a job. No problem.
Good mechanics are hard to find, so if you find a good one, not only do you want to keep them happy, you want to keep them in business!!
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Good mechanics are hard to find, so if you find a good one, not only do you want to keep them happy, you want to keep them in business!!
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Jerry
Absolutely correct Jerry. I always say if I allow my customers to dictate the price I'd be out of business.



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