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I am pround to announce that the first and only CIC Navigation Retrofit Group Buy is finally open!
Those of you who have been following the success stories from forum members Nelson, Peter, Jordy and others know that the CIC is a huge improvment over the CCC Navigation.
It is not only the Navigation that was changed but the whole iDrive system was redesigned and now features:
- High-definition screen (1280x480)
- DVD playback
- Hard disk storage for music and navigation maps
- 3D Navigation
- and many more...

You can find a lot of useful installation information in these threads:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/158500-2010-cic-retrofit-installation-log.html
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/160673-2010-cic-install-2006-m5-pictorial.html

The Basic CIC Retrofit Kit includes the following:
1. CIC head unit
2. CID HD screen
3. CID video cable
4. CID power connector
5. CIC trim
6. USB port
7. USB cable
8. Navigation FSC codes
9. Coding the CIC for the car specification
10. Coding the DVD-in-motion

This picture shows the hardware included in the basic kit:




The Basic Kit is everything you need if your car has the CCC Navigation.
Those of you who do not have the Navigation will also need to buy the dashboard trim that goes below the CIC and a GPS antenna mounted under the dash.
These parts can also be included in your retrofit kit. Please send me your VIN to get the final quote for your vehicle.

Your existing iDrive controller will work fine with the CIC Navigation, so the new one is not included to keep the total cost at the reasonable level.

All parts except the CIC and the CID are brand new. The head unit and the screen are used, but in a good condition.
This Retrofit Kit is based exclusively on OEM parts.

The limitations of the CIC retrofit:
- no HD Radio in the US (the CIC is the Euro spec, the brand new US spec CIC is 600Euro extra)
- no Voice Control activated (it will be possible to activate the Voice Control in the near future, but the cost of the VC FSC code is unknown at the moment)
- if you would like to have the car software updated by your dealership you will have to put your old CCC or Radio back in the car (it takes around 20 minutes to do the swap). According to BMW cars produced before the CIC was introduced could not have the CIC installed.

Pricing:
The regular price of the basic kit is 2350Euro shipped.
If there are five members signing up for this GB there will be 120Euro discount, so the total would be 2230Euro shipped.

Payment options:
Wire transfer or PayPal. For PayPal you need to add 3,5% to cover the transaction fee.

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Glad to see you as a sponsor here Patryk!

He's a pleasure to work with and really knows his stuff.

The increased speed, resolution and features are just amazing compared to the CCC, which seems completely antiquated by comparison.
 

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Great, can we get a mini review? :)

Glad to see you as a sponsor here Patryk!

He's a pleasure to work with and really knows his stuff.

The increased speed, resolution and features are just amazing compared to the CCC, which seems completely antiquated by comparison.
 

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I thought I just did Gustav. ;)

Ok, so here goes:

Boot up is almost instant compared to the CCC. If your default view is 3D Navigation, it does take maybe 10 seconds before everything is painted on the screen, but for everything else, it just start working right away.

When scrolling through tracks with the iDrive, the resistance at the top/bottom of what is currently displayed is gone, allowing for much faster scrolling.

You are now also presented with a count of tracks within your current category when browsing tacks from an iPod connected via the OEM interface. The time it takes the CIC to parse your iPod is also much improved. I have a 160GB iPod classic, and I can actually locate tracks now. The old method of showing CD1 - CD6 to represent the various categories like Artist, Playlist, Album etc is gone. The actual category is spelled out.

The ability to connect a USB memory stick to import songs is very nice. You can store 12GB in the CIC. When playing tracks from the internal HD compared to an iPod connected via the OEM interface, there are a couple of nice additional features, like a bar graph showing you how much time is left of the current track, and the speed at which you can browse artists/albums/tracks in a nested fashion is also very nice.

Navigation is truly amazing. The HD screen resolution, especially in the perspective (3D) view is nothing short of stunning. I live in the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia, and cross them every day going to work, and it is amazing to see the topography as I'm driving along and changing scale levels. The POIs are greatly enhanced compared to what the single DVD offered in the CCC.

Phone/Blutooth is about the same, except for the increased resolution and fluidness of the interface. The direct dial feature with the rotating knob with the numbers is a nice touch.

All your service intervals and such are all preserved since they are kept in seperate modules from the CIC. Same goes for your Blutooth devices.

A couple of new features I don't recall having on the CCC are:

Ability to turn DRLs on and off
Ability to turn 3 blinks when changing lanes on and off

Oh, the ability to watch DVDs is nice. I haven't really had a chance to play with this much, but the picture and especially the sound, is pretty amazing.

I'll see about taking some more screen shots and such and update my pictorial thread.

Please keep in mind that I only had my M5 (first BMW too) for a few weeks before I ripped out the CCC, so I might be missing some of the improvements. :haha:
 

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stunt, what an impressive review. You seem happy about the kit as well :D

I appreciated it alot, detailing the speed as well whic is often overlooked but a major annoyiance. Looking forward to soem pics and ypu should already now almost be a honorary member ;)
 

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Thanks Gustav.

If you take a look at my CIC Pictorial thread, you will notice that I just added 21 closeup pictures of the CIC screen. :viking:
 

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I am in the same boat, but I think I can put up with the lack of voice for a short time while Patryk is able to get the codes. Worst case there are a few hacks out there that could work if a OEM solution becomes impossible.
 

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wow. i really want this but really like the voice command function.

The Voice Control will be available shortly and it is something that can be activated later.
It just requires another FSC code, which I will be able to buy for those who are interested and will import it into your CIC.
I have a feeling I can be ready with the Voice Control before the GB is closed, so you can jump in and just add a note you need the VC.
 

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Glad to see you as a sponsor here Patryk!

He's a pleasure to work with and really knows his stuff.

The increased speed, resolution and features are just amazing compared to the CCC, which seems completely antiquated by comparison.

I am glad you like your new iDrive. It truly is amazing. And thanks for kind words! :)
 

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I have a question about CIC introduction dates, I`m currently looking at a e61 Touring (1st registration 03/2008) and it allready has the CIC navi, is it retrofited or could it be installed allready in the factory?
 

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The e61 you're looking at is probably a post LCI update. I'm not sure on the dates for the LCI for the e60/1's though.
 

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I have a question about CIC introduction dates, I`m currently looking at a e61 Touring (1st registration 03/2008) and it allready has the CIC navi, is it retrofited or could it be installed allready in the factory?
03/2008 with the CIC? I don't think so, but you can send me the VIN and I will check it...
 

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CIC is installed and you cna upgrade to the last navigation.

I have a question about CIC introduction dates, I`m currently looking at a e61 Touring (1st registration 03/2008) and it allready has the CIC navi, is it retrofited or could it be installed allready in the factory?
 

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I don`t have the VIN yet, but I have these codes for the additional equipment, if it helps:
BMW TeleServices 06AB Steuerung TeleServices 06FL USB-Audio-Schnittstelle 06VA Interne Steuerung 0609 Navigationssystem Professional 0610 Head-Up Display 0612 BMW Assist - Verkehr VI+, Notruf, Auskunftsdienst, Pannenhilfe 0616 BMW Online - E-Mail und Adressen, Parkplätze, Börse, RSS-Feeds, Wetter, Hotels 0620 Spracheingabesystem 0633 Handy Vorbereitung Business mit Bluetooth-Schnittstelle 0672 CD-Wechsler 6-fach 0676 HiFi Lautsprechersystem 0698 Area-Code 2 für DVD 07A6

If not, I`ll have the VIN code later today.
 

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Here`s the VIN code WBAPX71010B988618

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