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Im from Europe and over here BMW's are in the top 3 of most stolen cars. They get shipped to mostly Russia and the gangs doing this are very organized and professional and sometimes very ruthless. I have been reading a lot about what to do about this. Some people take their fuses out so the car wont start but this seems like alot of trouble to go through everytime plus thieves carrying extra fuses is not highly unlikely. I'm also not very comfortable with wheel locks (imagine if you forget it's on and try to drive off). I know there's a lot to read about measures people take but in the US it's mostly US cars that get stolen and people seem to trust their standard BMW alarm system.

I guess some people are not aware of some serious flaws, maybe I shouldnt mention them but I think it's important to know and to protect yourself against it. I'm sure some of you know about it but I guess it wouldnt hurt to make sure even more people are aware.

Professional Thieves can use the OBD to disable alarm and even clone keys. They can break the windows at a certain spot and know the blindspots of your alarm sensors (I guess if stock BMW alarm systems were used). Another way I read about is simply replacing the ECU with their own ECU + key they already had.

Because of this im taking some deeper measures and I wonder what people think so far and ofcourse share more tips to look into. And yeah after reading what im going to post here I might be going overboard a little but anything to protect my baby!

What im starting with myself is the following:

1) The OBD will only be enabled if the thieves can obtain a special switch from me or know how to rewire everything on the spot (a specialist is going to make this for me as im not a technician). Costs of the OBD lock will be around 200 USD.

2) Another option is to put extra voltage on the OBD port which will fry anything that tries to connect to it (make sure you disable it if you bring it in for maintenance!).

3) I am also looking into an additional mechanic lock that will put the stick (automatic though) in place. About the stick lock, I still have to go check if the car can be put into gear using the flippers or M button or a combination of these 2 (currently its cold and too late for me to go try). If the stick is useless the same kind of extra strong lock can be installed (extra) on the steering wheel. I have found a company in my country that specializes in these kind of locks. Costs are about 800 USD including Labor.

4) Safety glass (its actually some kind of vinyl) installed on the inside. The safety glass has a benefit that you can also have a tinted version so with this upgrade you can also get your windows done if they're still stock looking. I know the safety glass is not going to stop anyone but it does require 30-40 seconds to break through and LOTS of noise (including car alarm that will go off on top). Most thieves will give up if they cant easily break your glass without waking up the neighbourhood. Besides that, if you crash your car it will stop glass from flying through the car and in people's face. From the inside the glass will be easy breakable incase of an emergency. Costs are about 600 USD including labor.

5) Don't bother too much with GPS trackers, these are easy to jam with just a little device put into your cigarette lighter. Needless to say, gives thieves enough time to leave and look for it and remove. Apart from that, if they do know your car has a tracker and don't have a jammer they might tear up all your interior to look for it, not something you like to see when you come back to your car (or get your car back).

6) And ofcourse all risk insurrance (however they will never pay the real value you put into your car).

7) I am still looking into protective ECU options, any tips are welcome.

8) Please note that if you use any additional locks you risk angry thieves coming into your house to look for keys! Additional safety measures for your home environment is probably a good idea if not installed already.

9) Additional to point 8, bright (sensored) lights facing your porch/garage/door entry. I know this is common sense but a lot of people seem to forget or not bother with it. Thieves need time (even if it's just minutes) to operate. They dont like operating in the spot lights!

10) Dont bother with dummy camera's or even real surveilance camera's. Pro's always wear masks and couldnt care less. Anyone stupid enough not to hide his face is most likely not smart enough to take your car as well. Unless some low life crook managed to break into your house and steal all your keys. If you make it that easy for people all other 9 points are pretty pointless lol.

11) Just thought of a new idea (I think its pretty original and funny). Leave a dummy key in the house in sight that will set off the alarm if unlock button is pressed.

This is all I can think of at the moment. Im very curious about what measures or ideas other people have here. Also interested in any feedback on my current plans to keep people from stealing my Bimmer.
 

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If its that bad you may not need to own a BMW smh. Get an iphone and hide it in the car always powered and if they steal the car you can do a find my iPhone search and find your car. Just a thought.
 

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It is quite bad in Europe, I can confirm...

Some insurance companies here give ridiculous quotes for BMW insurances, just to avoid BMW owners insuring with them. Others have a requirement for additional anti-theft hardware to be installed on BMWs - be it GPS, or an additional immobilizer or whatever. Quite often that hardware leads to a battery drain or other electronics issues. Another of the insurance companies had all BMWs go through a shop a couple of years ago, to have their OBD ports rewired, free of charge.

You're thinking in the right direction, my advice would be to go with a custom setup, that's made for your car especially and will slow down the thieves considerably. Widely used defense tools are usually known to the thieves and can be easily countered (i.e. GPS/immobilizers). Go with something that will either prevent the car from starting and/or prevent the thieves from using the OBD port. Usually if they can't start the car in a minute or two, they give up.

Of course, if they have targeted your car specifically, there's probably little you can do. They will find a way eventually.
 

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The E60 M5/M6 are the most easily theft preventable cars ever made by BMW. It's very simple. Your car absolutely will not start or roll away with this one little modification. Hell, half the owners here have had occasion that they couldn't get it to start for one reason or another.

A hidden key switch somewhere with a single pole, single throw which interrupts 12V power to the clutch control valve above the SMG pump motor.

No matter what you replace, DME, CAS, entire engine, etc...the car will not start unless the clutch is disengaged. That simply isn't going to happen without power to that solenoid control valve. You're not even getting it out of gear (not even with a manual over-ride in INPA) to roll it away. The only way you're stealing the car is with a tow truck and that won't be prevented by any means short of a James-Bond style theft prevention device (i.e. For Your Eyes Only).
 

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About the Iphone idea, I like it but not really something for me.. Having a hard time to even make sure that my phone that I always use is charged when I leave the house lol. For some reason the car insurrance is not out of the ordinary high for me. A lot higher than my last Toyota for sure but not outrageous. I think my current insurrance plan just sees the car as a regular Sedan lol.

Someone else sent me a private message regarding this subject but im still a noob on the forum, my post count is too low to reply.
 
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