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Am thinking of calling it quits.
Got a 2008 M5 and it has been a fun car to play around with. The warranty is up in 2 months and I'm starting to wonder if it's worth keeping (to the tune of a 3k-6k aftermarket warranty).
There are many cars that can hand the M5 it's *** in a straight line (cts-v/etc). The supercharger kit (if it ever comes out) is probably going to run 15k-20k....no worries, but is all the extra maintenance/headache really worth the performance gains?
I realize the M5 is not a "straight line" type of car....it's suited only for the track, and beating Grandma's S2000 honda at stoplights.
I have come to realize that I will never make it to the track and I just like the raw straight line power.
The only reason I bought the M5 was because I had a 535i prior (chipped with JB3) and I liked how the 5 series handled. I reasoned that if the 535i handled well, the M5 would be a dream. And it was.
So I guess my question to you guys is as follows:
If I were to buy a new TT V8 550i....do they make a tuning chip for it yet? If so, how will the performance compare to my current M5?
Should I wait until the new M5 comes out, then dump this one at a total loss and chip the new M5? (I'm sure it's going to be a $120k investment at least until the car has been out for a year). So for that $120k.....why not buy a slightly used E55 that's one or two years old?
What I'm trying to say here is that I don't think the M5 is right for me anymore. I don't track the car at all (too busy and too far from any track) and in a straight line the car isn't as fast as other cars that are tens of thousands of dollars cheaper. I want to stick with BMW or Mercedes as I'm not a big fan of corporate America (political reasons) and their cars. I like the luxury part of the cars to be honest. So to me, the M5 is looking like it's going to become a money pit, one way or another. If I keep it, I will most likely supercharge it.
I also looked at the Nissan GT-R and those are some bad *** fast cars....but not as luxurious as I would like. I need something in between.
/I am confuse.
There are many cars that can hand the M5 it's *** in a straight line (cts-v/etc). The supercharger kit (if it ever comes out) is probably going to run 15k-20k....no worries, but is all the extra maintenance/headache really worth the performance gains?
I realize the M5 is not a "straight line" type of car....it's suited only for the track, and beating Grandma's S2000 honda at stoplights.
I have come to realize that I will never make it to the track and I just like the raw straight line power.
The only reason I bought the M5 was because I had a 535i prior (chipped with JB3) and I liked how the 5 series handled. I reasoned that if the 535i handled well, the M5 would be a dream. And it was.
So I guess my question to you guys is as follows:
If I were to buy a new TT V8 550i....do they make a tuning chip for it yet? If so, how will the performance compare to my current M5?
Should I wait until the new M5 comes out, then dump this one at a total loss and chip the new M5? (I'm sure it's going to be a $120k investment at least until the car has been out for a year). So for that $120k.....why not buy a slightly used E55 that's one or two years old?
What I'm trying to say here is that I don't think the M5 is right for me anymore. I don't track the car at all (too busy and too far from any track) and in a straight line the car isn't as fast as other cars that are tens of thousands of dollars cheaper. I want to stick with BMW or Mercedes as I'm not a big fan of corporate America (political reasons) and their cars. I like the luxury part of the cars to be honest. So to me, the M5 is looking like it's going to become a money pit, one way or another. If I keep it, I will most likely supercharge it.
I also looked at the Nissan GT-R and those are some bad *** fast cars....but not as luxurious as I would like. I need something in between.
/I am confuse.
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Oh yeah....totally forgot about that. brb internet search.
I guess the real question is do you want or need a four door car? You described wanting a faster car in the straight-line, but the car you listed (the ctv-s) is an American car. All others that I am guessing you are referring are two door sports cars that are apples to oranges comparisons. I think it's more or less if you want to go another route with what you get next.
I personally am going to keep the M5 for a long time and either get a 2013 M6 or a used 08-09 LP560-4 in a few years. The sc sounds nice but I would at least wait a few months (if there are any kinks) if you decide to go that route. Either way let us know what you decide to do, i have thought about this as well a few times.
I personally am going to keep the M5 for a long time and either get a 2013 M6 or a used 08-09 LP560-4 in a few years. The sc sounds nice but I would at least wait a few months (if there are any kinks) if you decide to go that route. Either way let us know what you decide to do, i have thought about this as well a few times.
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Well I need to buy a house prior to buying a car that's a status symbol. So no used Lambo or Ferrari etc. I'm still dwelling in an apt. and have no real reason to move. I don't cook, I don't clean and I don't have a girlfriend/wife. I'm comfy where I'm at. My place is a complete sh!tstye and I'm ok with that. I'm a single bachelor and most married guys (with children) would probably give their left nut to be me. But I digress....
A few months ago I went out to San Diego for a business meeting to pitch a potential new client a contract. It went ok....I mean "just ok"....I was woefully unprepared for the meeting (the CEO and owner decided to drop in on the meeting, I had no clue that they had no clue what my business was about and it went from a basic tech meeting to "My Business 101" and I think I lost them halfway through) ....then as the owner was walking me out the front door, he noticed the M5 and made a comment. That got us talking for about 45 minutes about our shared love of fast cars and the next thing I know he was in the driver's seat as we headed off to an unplanned lunch. Long story short, he went with us and they are now my biggest client. So the M5 basically paid for itself with that one meeting. That's why I want something with a "wow" factor. It allows me to find common ground with other guys (when it comes to business) and gets my foot in the door at times.
Has anyone else on this board given thought to getting rid of the e60 M5 in favor of another car? If so, what did you think about?
Oh, yes, dude. All of us happily married guys are just itching to ditch our wives, children, and clean homes so we can be just like you. :eek7:
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I didn't mean "happily married"....but I have met more "unhappily married" guys in my life than happy guys like you.
That's all that I'm basing it on.
p.s. Wouldn't you kill to have laundry that's 2 weeks old strung out all over your living room floor and no one to nag you to pick it up? Dishes in the sink that don't wash themselves (no matter how hard I use my Jedi mind control powers over them). Life is good.
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Hahaha, hilarious.
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Thanks man. I'm in one of those moods tonight. Don't mind me....as my profile says "I'm in my own little world".
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the new bmw turbos and the e60 m5's s85 v10 engine is totally different beast all together.
it all depends on what you want and what you like.
personally i don't like low revving engines, i like to rev it high .
end of the day, its a matter of preference.
it all depends on what you want and what you like.
personally i don't like low revving engines, i like to rev it high .
end of the day, its a matter of preference.
If you still want a 4 door then buy a used Panamera Turbo once their prices fall a bit. They are beastly, beastly cars. They have ugly exteriors but very nice interiors, and awesome performance.
Alternatively, you could wait for AMG's new twin turbo V8 to be fitted into the E class. Probably in another year or two.
IMO I would have reservations about doing business with BMW again, it seems they are taking a decisively anti-customer stance these days. Look at how they're treating members of this forum - crashing their cars when brought in for service, then denying responsibility. Denying responsibility for legitimate warranty claims. It's despicable.
None of us paid $50k-$100k+ to be dicked around and left to wonder if BMW will actually support us if and when we have problems with our cars.
Alternatively, you could wait for AMG's new twin turbo V8 to be fitted into the E class. Probably in another year or two.
IMO I would have reservations about doing business with BMW again, it seems they are taking a decisively anti-customer stance these days. Look at how they're treating members of this forum - crashing their cars when brought in for service, then denying responsibility. Denying responsibility for legitimate warranty claims. It's despicable.
None of us paid $50k-$100k+ to be dicked around and left to wonder if BMW will actually support us if and when we have problems with our cars.
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can pick up late model e63 amg for around 75-80 and buy a warranty if you want to stay with 4 door. used aston martin v8 vantage or audi r-8 will keep you under 100k if you want to go with a coupe. 997 tt would also be a very safe bet and probably the route i would lean toward. oh to have your problems......
good luck and be patient.
good luck and be patient.
Well, if you're only concerned with speed there are numerous cars that are faster. A Corvette Z06 comes to mind.
I might be different than alot of the people on this forum because basically I bought my M5 because of the luxury it offered on top of the high performance. I will probably never have my car on a track (I have a completely modded out Camaro for that... much cheaper when things get worn out or break), so the majority of the driving I do is the same as my 2005 530i was: To and from work, take my girl out for a date, go to the grocery store, etc... Once in a while I take the long way home through the country and open the M5 up where I know there are rarely other cars or police, and it is fun to let her wind out in third or fourth gear where she pulls like a banshee. But 95% of the time I'm driving through suburban streets in traffic, and I love the luxury that the M5 provides. Outstanding seats, sound system, and just the feeling of class and luxury while hinting at the underlying rabies-infected grizzly bear that she can become at the press of a button. I think it's very cool.
I had a 2004 Z06 vette and that was a very fast car. However, it was a grizzly bear all of the time. No luxury to speak of, just a bare bones racing machine. So it was uncomfortable most of the time, but when you put it in it's element on a race track it would shine like a star. The situation is even more-so with the C6 Z06. I test drove a newer one before I decided on the M5. The Z06 would have been cheaper and much faster, but you would have to drive it hard alot to remind yourself of why you bought it, because in stop and go city traffic day after day it would become miserable, and it's one of those cars that sticks out like a sore thumb.
So the point is that if you want a fast sports car, then a 4000 lb 4-door car is probably not want you need no matter how much power it has. But if you want a very comfortable and luxurious 4-door that can be raced once in a while, then the M5 is one of the best options.
-Dave
I might be different than alot of the people on this forum because basically I bought my M5 because of the luxury it offered on top of the high performance. I will probably never have my car on a track (I have a completely modded out Camaro for that... much cheaper when things get worn out or break), so the majority of the driving I do is the same as my 2005 530i was: To and from work, take my girl out for a date, go to the grocery store, etc... Once in a while I take the long way home through the country and open the M5 up where I know there are rarely other cars or police, and it is fun to let her wind out in third or fourth gear where she pulls like a banshee. But 95% of the time I'm driving through suburban streets in traffic, and I love the luxury that the M5 provides. Outstanding seats, sound system, and just the feeling of class and luxury while hinting at the underlying rabies-infected grizzly bear that she can become at the press of a button. I think it's very cool.
I had a 2004 Z06 vette and that was a very fast car. However, it was a grizzly bear all of the time. No luxury to speak of, just a bare bones racing machine. So it was uncomfortable most of the time, but when you put it in it's element on a race track it would shine like a star. The situation is even more-so with the C6 Z06. I test drove a newer one before I decided on the M5. The Z06 would have been cheaper and much faster, but you would have to drive it hard alot to remind yourself of why you bought it, because in stop and go city traffic day after day it would become miserable, and it's one of those cars that sticks out like a sore thumb.
So the point is that if you want a fast sports car, then a 4000 lb 4-door car is probably not want you need no matter how much power it has. But if you want a very comfortable and luxurious 4-door that can be raced once in a while, then the M5 is one of the best options.
-Dave
DaveCM5 pretty well sums up my decision process when purchased M5. Luxury car features & amenities for daily driving, but the “facade” quickly disappears with the push of a button.
Must say, however, that with the recent posts re. BMW standing behind their top-end vehicles am beginning to have concerns. Just this week convinced wife to replace her GS 350 with the updated 2011 X5 – hope it is not a decision I will regret… <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o></o>
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></o>The new F10 550i can already be tuned. I believe Dinan's new chip will give you about 500 bhp (and way more torque than the E60 M5...don't know the number off the top of my head though).
However, I think you can find yourself a far more enjoyable car than an F10 550i if you want killer straight-line performance. I'd look into a 2007 Mercedes S65 AMG...I drove one last year and if you are looking for straight line performance and tire-shredding torque, it has it. Also check out a 997 Turbo (or 996 if you don't want to spend as much). They are bulletproof cars with unbelievable straight line performance (I've only experienced the 997, but with a tune the 996 can be at the same level or better).
Good luck!
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However, I think you can find yourself a far more enjoyable car than an F10 550i if you want killer straight-line performance. I'd look into a 2007 Mercedes S65 AMG...I drove one last year and if you are looking for straight line performance and tire-shredding torque, it has it. Also check out a 997 Turbo (or 996 if you don't want to spend as much). They are bulletproof cars with unbelievable straight line performance (I've only experienced the 997, but with a tune the 996 can be at the same level or better).
Good luck!
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