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Hey everybody, new guy here. I am about to seal the deal on a Le Mans blue on black Napa/ostrich 2002 M5 that is in the 100k mike club but has been well cared for by previous owners. I am excited to finally own one of these beasts and have listed after them ever since they first showed their faces in the US (unfortunately I was 20 and had no money).

I am a life long car nut and spent my mid-twenties wrenching on and racing Subarus but then life got in the way of my automotive habit and I traded my weekend track day toys for serious adult conveyances. But now that I have my family truckster (2014 X5 diesel) and am moving to a house with some space (5-car garage), I can finally get something fun again.

I considered many different cars (newer STi, E90 M3, RS4, Cayenne GTS 6MT, newer Golf R) but always came back to the M5. While driving the STi feels familiar and safe like hooking up with an ex and the other cars are great, I want to own a piece of history, on of the best sports sedans ever made. And the M5’s dual personality of comfortable highway cruiser/high speed monster combined with its practicality (my 17 month old has more crap than I do) and relative ease of maintenance makes it perfect for me.

I look forward to taking possession of my own M5 in the next week or so and look forward to being part of the community. Before I go, I want to thank all of the members who have posted valuable information that has helped me find a great car that is in great shape as well as information to help me with all of the upgrades I plan on performing over the first year.

-ODDseth
 

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Good Evening,

In response to the overwhelming number of new users on this board, some of the senior members (well, 1 anyway) have decided to pro-actively write a second "Read Me First" post for new users. It seems that the first one, "stickied" at the top of the forum, is apparently too difficult to find.

Please remember, you MUST respond to this post before you will be allowed to start any new threads. Feel free to respond now so you don't forget.

Good work! :applause: You now have 1 post and are an official member :cheers:

So what do you need to know about M5Board.Com?

1. Search is your friend. I know, "New Thread" is right there and it is sooo tempting. But search first instead. Trust me on this.

2. WRITING IN ALL CAPS IS CONSIDERED YELLING. So don't. If you accidentally do so, please take the time to push the backspace key and type it again normally. This is standard internet protocol, but worth repeating.

3. Spelling and grammar errors are normal. Everyone makes them. And some of us even take the time to correct them. "Why?", you might ask? Because it makes it easier for other readers to understand your question / response. And though it may not seem like it, this is in everyone's best interest. You get more relevant feedback, and the rest of us don't have to decipher your gibberish. Lastly, English is a 2nd language for many of our members; let's not make them translate lousy English to proper English in addition to translating it to their first tongue! Note that I'm not refering to the infrequent typo here or there, but rather posts that are rampant with poor grammar.

4. No matter what problem you have, I guarantee someone else had it first. Heck, 20 people have probably had it. Even the newest of these cars are pushing 5 years old now, and this is, bar none, the greatest respository of M5 knowledge on the planet (short of the minds of some of our senior members). So do us all a favor and use the Search button.

4A. Of course, you already know how to search, right? I mean, how hard can it be? The answer is "Very". Thankfully, another member of the club wrote a tutorial. I've been around since Al Gore invented in the internet, and I STILL learned a couple things when I read it the other day, so humor me for another 5 minutes and head on over and check it out (just hold the control key while clicking that link - we'll wait for you to come back...)

5. If you are thinking about posting a thread about which oil to use, which oil not to use, which oils are BMW certified, which oils are the "best", which are the "worst", or anything that generally involves oil, DON'T. Instead, use the Search button. In case you haven't noticed it yet, it is in the top right corner of your screen.



6. If you must post an oil related question, be prepared for the following responses:
  • "Use the search button"
  • "Not another damn oil thread"
  • You must use BMW TWS or your car will explode
  • You must use BMW 5W30 or your car will explode
  • Mobil1 / Castrol / <INSERT your favorite brand here>is the best
  • BMW only changed from TWS to 5W30 because it is cheaper
  • Use whatever you want, run a Used Oil Analysis (UOA) and modify according to the results
Every beast is different, so that last response is really the only useful one. Don't get me wrong - we all have opinions and we're more than happy to share them with you, but only You drive Your beast, so only You can make the decision. Remember: Opinions are like buttholes - everyone has one and they all stink.

7. Don't use SMS or texting shorthand. ys, IK u cn save heaps of tym by UzN abbrs, bt thyre hrd 4t rest of us 2 read - SO dnt. Irritating, isn't it? ps. that says: "Yes, I know you can save a lot of time by using abbreviations, but they are hard for the rest of us to read - so don't!

8. If you still insist on using abbreviations don't be surprised if a lot of us choose to ignore you. Seriously. At best we will give you a hard time about your crappy spelling.

9. Many members, myself included, post our modifications or improvements to the Beast. As contrary as this may seem, unless we specifically ask for feedback, we don't care if you like it. So please, before you hit send on that post telling us how much you don't like it, just close the window and move on.

10. You can subscribe to a post without posting "Subscribe" in a useless response. Simply click on "Thead Tools" (it is up there next to the Search button - you found the search button, right?), and then select "Subscribe". This Gustav guy thinks of everything!!

11. Last, and by no means least: This is a forum of adults. Rudeness has no place. There is a real live human on the end of each and every post. Be respectful and you will be respected. Act like an infant and you will be treated like one. And please remember, there are active members on this board with 2K+, 3K+, even 5K+ posts. They didn't get that many posts by being wrong a whole bunch of times. Respect their wisdom and take an appropriate tone in your responses; you may very well be right in your argument, but alienating a senior member of the board due to a poorly phrased response is not in your best interest. You will find that the active membership, which you will be welcomed into, all know each other quite well...

Again, I welcome you to the board, and remind you that if you have not yet posted a response to this unauthorized FAQ you should do so now -- otherwise it won't be sitting at the top of the page waiting for the next new member :)

Oh, one last thing: After you achieve approximately 2000 posts you will be welcomed into an exclusive group. Consisting primarily of grumpy old folks - in M5 experience, not physical years - who have little tolerance for questions that have been asked (and answered!) 1000 times already and even less tolerance for spelling errors and name calling, this group has been dubbed (just now, by me) the "Coalition Against Newbies Idiotic Theories", or "CAN IT". We can't help that we're grumpy, and sometimes we let out our frustration through posts like this. Thanks for taking the time to read it, and enjoy the board :cheers:

Doug
Doug I think everyone should read your message. It sounds like it was written by David Letterman. Thank you for doing that and thank you for your sense of humor!!
Dave Kraft
Actually been on here for a long time but not recently so I thought I would check it out!
 

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Glad to respond so I might be able to contribute - I've read plenty of posts and found many useful. Hope to bring value to someone here as every job I do, seems to never go as hoped!

'01 E39 M5 Carbon Black Metallic - 175,000 miles (130,000 are mine) 2nd Owner since 2005
 

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I came to get some knowledge on a specific car I've been interested in for quite awhile now and that's the e39 m5. I've been wanting to purchase 1 for awhile and now that I'm able to financially I've decided to gain some knowledge before I pull the trigger on 1. I know quite a bit about the 2003 540i mtech but not so much about the s62 engine so please school me I'm willing to learn everything about these cars
 

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New to this specific forum, I am coming from a 540it and am interested in learning more about the m5 from owners. I bought the wagon a year ago with the idea of turning it into a m5 wagon. I have studied the online DIY threads and feel comfortable with that side of the process but now I would like to read up more on the s62 before fully committing to the project
 

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Hello! I'm new to the forum and finally getting serious about learning more about then purchasing an E39 M5! They've been one of my dream cars for quite some time, very excited to be close to purchasing one. Current rides are: 2008 VW GLI 6-speed manual in Laser Blue, 2014 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI DSG in Tornado Red, and a 2009 Suzuki SV650SF
 

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Good Evening,

In response to the overwhelming number of new users on this board, some of the senior members (well, 1 anyway) have decided to pro-actively write a second "Read Me First" post for new users. It seems that the first one, "stickied" at the top of the forum, is apparently too difficult to find.

Please remember, you MUST respond to this post before you will be allowed to start any new threads. Feel free to respond now so you don't forget.

Good work! :applause: You now have 1 post and are an official member :cheers:

So what do you need to know about M5Board.Com?

1. Search is your friend. I know, "New Thread" is right there and it is sooo tempting. But search first instead. Trust me on this.

2. WRITING IN ALL CAPS IS CONSIDERED YELLING. So don't. If you accidentally do so, please take the time to push the backspace key and type it again normally. This is standard internet protocol, but worth repeating.

3. Spelling and grammar errors are normal. Everyone makes them. And some of us even take the time to correct them. "Why?", you might ask? Because it makes it easier for other readers to understand your question / response. And though it may not seem like it, this is in everyone's best interest. You get more relevant feedback, and the rest of us don't have to decipher your gibberish. Lastly, English is a 2nd language for many of our members; let's not make them translate lousy English to proper English in addition to translating it to their first tongue! Note that I'm not refering to the infrequent typo here or there, but rather posts that are rampant with poor grammar.

4. No matter what problem you have, I guarantee someone else had it first. Heck, 20 people have probably had it. Even the newest of these cars are pushing 5 years old now, and this is, bar none, the greatest respository of M5 knowledge on the planet (short of the minds of some of our senior members). So do us all a favor and use the Search button.

4A. Of course, you already know how to search, right? I mean, how hard can it be? The answer is "Very". Thankfully, another member of the club wrote a tutorial. I've been around since Al Gore invented in the internet, and I STILL learned a couple things when I read it the other day, so humor me for another 5 minutes and head on over and check it out (just hold the control key while clicking that link - we'll wait for you to come back...)

5. If you are thinking about posting a thread about which oil to use, which oil not to use, which oils are BMW certified, which oils are the "best", which are the "worst", or anything that generally involves oil, DON'T. Instead, use the Search button. In case you haven't noticed it yet, it is in the top right corner of your screen.



6. If you must post an oil related question, be prepared for the following responses:
  • "Use the search button"
  • "Not another damn oil thread"
  • You must use BMW TWS or your car will explode
  • You must use BMW 5W30 or your car will explode
  • Mobil1 / Castrol / <INSERT your favorite brand here>is the best
  • BMW only changed from TWS to 5W30 because it is cheaper
  • Use whatever you want, run a Used Oil Analysis (UOA) and modify according to the results
Every beast is different, so that last response is really the only useful one. Don't get me wrong - we all have opinions and we're more than happy to share them with you, but only You drive Your beast, so only You can make the decision. Remember: Opinions are like buttholes - everyone has one and they all stink.

7. Don't use SMS or texting shorthand. ys, IK u cn save heaps of tym by UzN abbrs, bt thyre hrd 4t rest of us 2 read - SO dnt. Irritating, isn't it? ps. that says: "Yes, I know you can save a lot of time by using abbreviations, but they are hard for the rest of us to read - so don't!

8. If you still insist on using abbreviations don't be surprised if a lot of us choose to ignore you. Seriously. At best we will give you a hard time about your crappy spelling.

9. Many members, myself included, post our modifications or improvements to the Beast. As contrary as this may seem, unless we specifically ask for feedback, we don't care if you like it. So please, before you hit send on that post telling us how much you don't like it, just close the window and move on.

10. You can subscribe to a post without posting "Subscribe" in a useless response. Simply click on "Thead Tools" (it is up there next to the Search button - you found the search button, right?), and then select "Subscribe". This Gustav guy thinks of everything!!

11. Last, and by no means least: This is a forum of adults. Rudeness has no place. There is a real live human on the end of each and every post. Be respectful and you will be respected. Act like an infant and you will be treated like one. And please remember, there are active members on this board with 2K+, 3K+, even 5K+ posts. They didn't get that many posts by being wrong a whole bunch of times. Respect their wisdom and take an appropriate tone in your responses; you may very well be right in your argument, but alienating a senior member of the board due to a poorly phrased response is not in your best interest. You will find that the active membership, which you will be welcomed into, all know each other quite well...

Again, I welcome you to the board, and remind you that if you have not yet posted a response to this unauthorized FAQ you should do so now -- otherwise it won't be sitting at the top of the page waiting for the next new member :)

Oh, one last thing: After you achieve approximately 2000 posts you will be welcomed into an exclusive group. Consisting primarily of grumpy old folks - in M5 experience, not physical years - who have little tolerance for questions that have been asked (and answered!) 1000 times already and even less tolerance for spelling errors and name calling, this group has been dubbed (just now, by me) the "Coalition Against Newbies Idiotic Theories", or "CAN IT". We can't help that we're grumpy, and sometimes we let out our frustration through posts like this. Thanks for taking the time to read it, and enjoy the board :cheers:

Doug
 

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Hi. New to the e39m5 but not BMWs. Bought it in December to run around in for a year or so but I've decided that it's so good i'm going to keep it for much longer. I'll start a thread to track the progress I make on it as I'm addressing all the issues on it that need sorting...and there are plenty. Lol
 
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