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6MT with a 1.9L Z3 Shifter?

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Hey MT guys, so I was reading up on what all you could do to improve the shifting of the 6MT of the E60. I was ran into some info about replacing the OEM shifter with the 1.9L Z3 Shifter? There wasnt much info on it, and the thread was kind of old. Can someone explain what this replacement does? Is it like an SSK? or? Thanks for the help.
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Yes the replacement is like a SSK. It's OEM and cheap compared to the other SSK. Add a weighted ZHP shift knob, even better.

I love mine:

I did not see what was mentioned in the other thread, but have you considered the stock shifter from a z3 1.9L?

It's a stock BMW part and transforms the character of the car. I've posted it before, but I have the same shifter in my e28 m5, e39 m5, and e60 m5. The shifter was the first thing I did when I picked up the e60. The previous owner had the Dinan short shifter in, but it still felt like I was rowing the boat. I couldn't wait to swap out the z3 shifter. Night and Day.

Part number 25 11 7 527 252 and only $66.20 on realoem.com

RealOEM.com * BMW Z3 Z3 1.9 Gearbox shifting part
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http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e6...98054-calling-all-6-speed-non-smg-owners.html

Cheapest mod for the 6MT.
I have been following this and also deciding what to do. I already have the weighted / lighted ZHP knob to go with it. I think the only contenders are what Woody recommends and the UCC SSK V3. I know they changed the UCC kit with V3 but I'm not sure how improved it is. Woody seems to really like his shifter so without hearing anything else I am leaning this way as well. Will probably wait until I do the exhaust as they have the take the exhaust down anyways to do the intall.
Hey MT guys, so I was reading up on what all you could do to improve the shifting of the 6MT of the E60. I was ran into some info about replacing the OEM shifter with the 1.9L Z3 Shifter? There wasnt much info on it, and the thread was kind of old. Can someone explain what this replacement does? Is it like an SSK? or? Thanks for the help.
I had a Z3 shorty on my 540i and hated it. Way too notchy. Shorter throws yes, but the buttery smooth shift feel was completely gone.
I had a Z3 shorty on my 540i and hated it. Way too notchy. Shorter throws yes, but the buttery smooth shift feel was completely gone.
Have you changed anything on your shifter setup? I may do the install of just the ZHP knob first and see how I like that. I guess I could find a Z3 for sale and go drive it to feel the shifting?
Have you changed anything on your shifter setup? I may do the install of just the ZHP knob first and see how I like that. I guess I could find a Z3 for sale and go drive it to feel the shifting?
No. I think the Z3 is going to feel smooth...its the combination of the M5's gate paired to the Z3's shorter shifter that causes the notchiness. Mixing and matching creates the problem.

Basically, if you prefer shorter shifts over a smooth shifting experience, then do the swap out. I personally prefer a smoother shifting experience since I'm not looking to power shift or race anyone.
I've gone through 3 short shifters and here's where i'm at

UUC shifter -- annoying as hell becasue it's not curved properly to be centered. It's the same part number they use for all BMWs so it doesn't fit exactly right

swapped it for the z3 shifter and hated that one even more! It's annoying, and doesn't shorten the throws as much as it shortens the actual rod. Every time you go into 1,3,6 you hit your hand against the top part of the shifter trim. It's REALLY REALLY REALLY obnoxious. And it also isn't shaped properly.,

Went back to the UUC and had my mechanic (works for BMW of Dallas) actually take the UUC rod and bend it to match the natural curvature of the m5 shifter. It's a keeper! I love this setup now. Trust me, you NEED to have this shifter bent before it goes in. If not, it will sit too far to the right, and it is horribly obnoxious to drive.

Best of luck.

Ben
No. I think the Z3 is going to feel smooth...its the combination of the M5's gate paired to the Z3's shorter shifter that causes the notchiness. Mixing and matching creates the problem.

Basically, if you prefer shorter shifts over a smooth shifting experience, then do the swap out. I personally prefer a smoother shifting experience since I'm not looking to power shift or race anyone.
It really is just a preference.

The notchiness is something that I prefer because I am tracking my cars. On my e39, I went through three different shifters, four times, before I settled back on the z3 1.9 (stock, z3, e60, and back to z3). I did not notice any undue wear with the z3 on the e39. I cannot comment on the eventual gate wear on the e60 because I haven't looked at it again in the last 30,000 miles.

I would say give the z3 shifter a try -- it's only a $67.00 experiment, plus install. If you don't like it, you can always swap it out.

Remember, you have to drop your exhaust -- so it could be a good excuse to get a Section 1 and 2 at the same time. :M5launch:
Guys,

Maybe this will help. There is more than one z3 shifter.

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No. I think the Z3 is going to feel smooth...its the combination of the M5's gate paired to the Z3's shorter shifter that causes the notchiness. Mixing and matching creates the problem.

Basically, if you prefer shorter shifts over a smooth shifting experience, then do the swap out. I personally prefer a smoother shifting experience since I'm not looking to power shift or race anyone.
Cool, thanks for the response!
It really is just a preference.

The notchiness is something that I prefer because I am tracking my cars. On my e39, I went through three different shifters, four times, before I settled back on the z3 1.9 (stock, z3, e60, and back to z3). I did not notice any undue wear with the z3 on the e39. I cannot comment on the eventual gate wear on the e60 because I haven't looked at it again in the last 30,000 miles.

I would say give the z3 shifter a try -- it's only a $67.00 experiment, plus install. If you don't like it, you can always swap it out.

Remember, you have to drop your exhaust -- so it could be a good excuse to get a Section 1 and 2 at the same time. :M5launch:
Thanks Woody!
It really is just a preference.

The notchiness is something that I prefer because I am tracking my cars. On my e39, I went through three different shifters, four times, before I settled back on the z3 1.9 (stock, z3, e60, and back to z3). I did not notice any undue wear with the z3 on the e39. I cannot comment on the eventual gate wear on the e60 because I haven't looked at it again in the last 30,000 miles.

I would say give the z3 shifter a try -- it's only a $67.00 experiment, plus install. If you don't like it, you can always swap it out.

Remember, you have to drop your exhaust -- so it could be a good excuse to get a Section 1 and 2 at the same time. :M5launch:
hey woody i need some advice and help

so im gona pull the trigger on the z3 short shifter

the part number is 25117527252

this is the pn just for this
BMW Z3 1.9 shift lever

but do i need these as well below?
Shifter Lever Bearing
Shift Shaft Circlips
Spacer Rings

and can i use my stock 6mt shift knob or should i swap that as well to another shift knob

and what do u mean by drop the exhaust pls explain why i need to do that

if there is a diy somewhere it would help

again many thanks and take care
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hey woody i need some advice and help

so im gona pull the trigger on the z3 short shifter

the part number is 25117527252

this is the pn just for this
BMW Z3 1.9 shift lever

but do i need these as well below?
Shifter Lever Bearing
Shift Shaft Circlips
Spacer Rings

and can i use my stock 6mt shift knob or should i swap that as well to another shift knob

and what do u mean by drop the exhaust pls explain why i need to do that

if there is a diy somewhere it would help

again many thanks and take care
You can replace the other parts "while you're in there." With that said, I think I just replaced the circlips and spacer rings.

You will need to drop your exhaust to create space underneath, to make the swap. In my e39 M5, there was much more space...the e60...not so much. For your e63, it may be different as well, I'm not sure.

For the shift knob, this is what I selected:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e6...f10-6mt-illuminated-shift-nob-my-e60-6mt.html
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You can replace the other parts "while you're in there." With that said, I think I just replaced the circlips and spacer rings.

You will need to drop your exhaust to create space underneath, to make the swap. In my e39 M5, there was much more space...the e60...not so much. For your e63, it may be different as well, I'm not sure.

For the shift knob, this is what I selected:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e6...f10-6mt-illuminated-shift-nob-my-e60-6mt.html
I have an m6 is it same space aa the e60
I did this mod and love it. My indy changed out the shifter without dropping the exhaust also lol don't ask me how but he was done in under an hour. I ended up having to glue my shift knob down bc after 3 hard pulls and it ended up in my hand I no more. Since I've done that, I haven't had an issue since. Great mod.
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Do you guys know if the Z4 shifter swap will work in e92 m3?
Do you guys know if the Z4 shifter swap will work in e92 m3?
C'mon other than fifty everyone else is gone from here. Bumping a 2012 thread to ask an e92 question smh 馃槀
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I should have looked at the date! I thought I was late but I wasn't even here 馃槀

If we keep commenting it will stay at the top!
I think, with all the 鈥淓鈥 chassis cars, many of the basic parts are like Lego blocks.

@Alan Arnesen inherited my old shifter.

Today, I鈥檓 running an AKG Motorsports shifter for an e9x with an adjustable selector rod, tack welded in place.
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Yeah, yeah, I know it's a necropost. Anyhow, it sounds like the answer is 'yes' it will work....
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