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My first post of hopefully many more if I land myself in the right M. I was looking at this M5.
Used 2008 BMW M5 Sedan 5 For Sale in Greenville, SC - T8CX09593
They seem pretty firm on their price since they are a Sonic "True Price" dealership. They also sent me service records they had on the car. I copied some things off the list that look a little troubling to me. Car is going for a PPI TO a closeby BMW indy in the morning. The dealership seemed pretty confident that this car was in great shape and the PPI would show it. The salesman I spoke to said this car had a maintenance plan which ran up less than 6 months so he claims its one of the cleanest least abused M5s he has seen come through his shop. Let me know what you guys think.

And by the way, if anyone is looking at the 08 M5 at Beachwood Porsche in Ohio run very far away. I had a PPI done with that one at a BMW dealership close by and they faxed me a whole page of error codes and handwritten notes of things that were wrong with the car. They put the tech on the phone with me and he told me to not even consider it because he saw so many problems with it. The salesman at Beachwood Porsche has not returned any of my phone calls since I told him about the PPI.

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I want the wheels!!!! PLEASE!!!
 

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I just bought a 2006 m5 from a sonic Corp dealer in Alabama.
True price was $24,900. I offered lower and lower, and when they said ok I offered even less.
To the point I spent 2 days talking with them and I was even in my truck leaving with the dealer and manager chasing me in the parking lot.

In the end I paid $22,000 plus got a few freebies.
They will work on price
 

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as many members here will say....It's not the price of the car it's the maint....with these cars aging you should assume to be putting a good $3k-$10k to keep the car running the next few years and continuing there after. When it's running it's the best thing ever BUT when she decides to take a dump you'll want to murder uncircumcised kittens!
 

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Price is decent but with that many miles there better be a warranty as this is when things start to fall apart.

Car looks decent also.
 

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Are all those failures for the car in question you want to buy? Looks like a long list of issues, cars like that usually just continue to have issues.. Id look got another one..
 

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Insurance ended up buying the car. It was an 08 with 90000 miles fully loaded and they gave me 26600 for it.

I think it is fairly priced but I will try and get them to come down

I have set aside $3500 for future repairs for now.

I had the full service records and the car looks like it was kept up.

I don't think I will get a warranty. With the maintenance plan I think the previous owners just brought it in whenever they were having any problems knowing that it would be covered but my understanding of how the maintenance plan works could be wrong.
 

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Why not spend that 3500 on a warranty instead? You could be walking into a hornet's nest with this car.
 

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I'll have to do some research on warrantys.

As for spending the few grand I have saved up for repairs on a lower mileage m5, I'd imagine that having an M, high or low mileage you should have some money saved for repairs. So even if I did find a lower milage m the money that I saved for repairs would go straight to purchasing the car

Thanks everyone for your input! Keep it coming!
 

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How much do know about the e60 m5? Some board members who have reached 65k miles have changed their rod bearings. Something to think about. Good luck.
 

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Most of my knowledge is based off of the 550. I have been lurking on the forums for about 6 months now. I know things like rod bearings, issues with the vanos, and clutch are prone to failure and are expensive to fix just like everything else. I guess it really is a crap shoot because I've seen threads of guys replacing rod bearings at 50k.
 

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Wait until next year then buy mine, it's got a late 07 motor with 26k on it, new bearings, new Vanos line. Only needs a high-beam headlight bulb!
 

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Even if I could wait that long I'm pretty much just looking for an LCI. My 550 was LCI so I don't know if I could even go back
 

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I'd say buy it, squirrel away some money for parts and repairs. Comb this forum as necessary and drive the [email protected]#$ out of the thing!!
 

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I'd say buy it, squirrel away some money for parts and repairs. Comb this forum as necessary and drive the [email protected]#$ out of the thing!!
I appreciate the enthusiasm and thanks for the advice.



As for the PPI I have the results. Front bumper has been repainted and 2 different brands of tires. Tech said he pulled a bunch of codes but none were active at the time. He said they were just stored in there. He didnt have any explanation for the codes, just the codes themselves. He did mention that some of these codes could have come from changing the battery and not registering it. I don't think that many codes would come up. But like he said, none of them were active or showing a check engine light but none of them were cleared out.
A0B5
2B59
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5DA3
5D93
5FF0
5FFB
93F8
E714
93BD
A559
9FF1
FFF3
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D904
E714
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I appreciate the enthusiasm and thanks for the advice.



As for the PPI I have the results. Front bumper has been repainted and 2 different brands of tires. Tech said he pulled a bunch of codes but none were active at the time. He said they were just stored in there. He didnt have any explanation for the codes, just the codes themselves. He did mention that some of these codes could have come from changing the battery and not registering it. I don't think that many codes would come up. But like he said, none of them were active or showing a check engine light but none of them were cleared out.
A0B5
2B59
2B4E
2FA0
5DA3
5D93
5FF0
5FFB
93F8
E714
93BD
A559
9FF1
FFF3
93FB
D904
E714
FFFF
A0B5 - CAS Fault, road speed signal
2B59 - DME: Coolant, thermostat monitoring
2B4E - Misfire, multiple cylinders (strange there are no specific cylinder codes as well)
2FA0 - ?
5DA3 - DSC, wheel speed sensor, plausibility, front right
5D93 - DSC, wheel speed sensor, plausibility, front left
5FF0 - CAN message, wheel speed from DSC
5FFB - EDC: Terminal voltage, electronic damper control
93F8 - CASM/MRS, anchor fitting tensioner, driver
E714 - IHKA/DME battery voltage faulty
93BD - ACSM/MRS belt buckle contact passenger rear
A559 - Instrument cluster power switched off
9FF1 - SZM-LIN communication disrupted
FFF3 - MOST: system analysis, 1 fault found
93FB - no message from DSC, ACSM/MRS
D904 - CAS K-line fault
FFFF - ?


Most of those definitely look voltage related, so if they clear them out and none return, I wouldn't sweat them.
 

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A0B5 - CAS Fault, road speed signal
2B59 - DME: Coolant, thermostat monitoring
2B4E - Misfire, multiple cylinders (strange there are no specific cylinder codes as well)
2FA0 - ?
5DA3 - DSC, wheel speed sensor, plausibility, front right
5D93 - DSC, wheel speed sensor, plausibility, front left
5FF0 - CAN message, wheel speed from DSC
5FFB - EDC: Terminal voltage, electronic damper control
93F8 - CASM/MRS, anchor fitting tensioner, driver
E714 - IHKA/DME battery voltage faulty
93BD - ACSM/MRS belt buckle contact passenger rear
A559 - Instrument cluster power switched off
9FF1 - SZM-LIN communication disrupted
FFF3 - MOST: system analysis, 1 fault found
93FB - no message from DSC, ACSM/MRS
D904 - CAS K-line fault
FFFF - ?


Most of those definitely look voltage related, so if they clear them out and none return, I wouldn't sweat them.
Thanks for checking all that out. I am going to ask them to have one of their service guys take a look at it. Maybe this will help me out when trying to "negotiate" their "true price"
 

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If you buy this M5, always be looking for ways to perform preventative maintenance. That is the secret to keeping your beast in top operating condition. You will still get the occasional gotcha that may just drive you nuts, but overall the e60 is a pretty well built BMW. Fluid changes are absolutely critical, especially the engine oil. Most long time owners of the e60 will say that they change their oil religiously, anywhere between 5000-8000 miles.

I do mine at around 6000 miles or so. I'm coming up on 90k miles myself in a 2006 MY.
 

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If you buy this M5, always be looking for ways to perform preventative maintenance. That is the secret to keeping your beast in top operating condition. You will still get the occasional gotcha that may just drive you nuts, but overall the e60 is a pretty well built BMW. Fluid changes are absolutely critical, especially the engine oil. Most long time owners of the e60 will say that they change their oil religiously, anywhere between 5000-8000 miles.

I do mine at around 6000 miles or so. I'm coming up on 90k miles myself in a 2006 MY.
Thanks for the advice. I changed the oil in my 550i every 8000 miles. I have never really been one to push my cars very hard.

Just checked online and looks like they dropped the price down to 27K. I think the PPI I had done scared them a little. They tried calling me 3 times today but I was so busy at the office I did not have time to pick up.
 
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