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All,

I'm looking for a 2nd car. Something with fast, but not like a focused track car (Caterham etc).

I'm limited to about £35k. I'm guessing many of you also own something else or have owned other cars, so I'm throwing it open really.

Am currently thinking about a TVR, Noble, Porsche....

Is there something out there I'm missing?

Steve
 

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Ferrari F355, Aston Martin DB7, Maserati 3200GT, BMW M3, TVR Tuscan S, BMW M-Coupe.
 

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What else do you want from the car? Its so much of a buyers market out there! Also how new or old?
 

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Honda NSX, Skyline GTR....

But yeah I reckon a Porsche would have to be quiet high up the list. Never was a fan of the 911 until I drove a turbo, and it blew me away.

Personally, I love the way the TVR's look, but I think there are much better cars out there, and so many of them are pretty slow really. I have worked on the audio in them, and the car we got given was pretty shabbily finished IMO. Headlight lenses looked like they had been cut by hand using a rusty blunt hacksaw blade, and then filled with bitumen to cover it up!! I know they are meant to be hand built, but really this did fall below standard for a car of that sort of money. Nice leather stitched dash tho!!
 

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hertfordshire1 said:
All,

I'm looking for a 2nd car. Something with fast, but not like a focused track car (Caterham etc).

I'm limited to about £35k. I'm guessing many of you also own something else or have owned other cars, so I'm throwing it open really.

Am currently thinking about a TVR, Noble, Porsche....

Is there something out there I'm missing?

Steve
Hey Mate
Hows things..?
Why dont you buy a 4.5 Cerbera.... ouich
If you think you're having a hard time with the old M5 at the moment, a Cerbera will make your M5 look like a Lexus reliability wise.

Thats quite a big budget you have there.
If someone plonked that much cash in front of me at the moment, Id buy me a souped up philipino maid with all the extras.... (female of course)

Regards
Farrell
(Sleep deprived with a 7month old baby who has aced any previously available contraception methods)
 

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farrell said:
Hey Mate
Hows things..?
Why dont you buy a 4.5 Cerbera.... ouich
If you think you're having a hard time with the old M5 at the moment, a Cerbera will make your M5 look like a Lexus reliability wise.

Thats quite a big budget you have there.
If someone plonked that much cash in front of me at the moment, Id buy me a souped up philipino maid with all the extras.... (female of course)

Regards
Farrell
(Sleep deprived with a 7month old baby who has aced any previously available contraception methods)
I was thinking about a Cerbera!!

I take it they have relaibility issues??

With reagrds to other points made, do not want another M car, F355 to old, I want something up to 4 years old.

But it has to be quick. Something that is gonna make the M5 seem like a mondeo!

And before people go the motorbike route, I had one of those, got knocked off it by a lorry and haven't fancied ago since!!!

Steve

P.s Farrell, I'll give you a bell tomorrow for a catch up chat.
 

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Lotus Carlton, AMG E55, Noble 3.0 GTOR
 

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BURTON said:
Lotus Carlton, AMG E55, Noble 3.0 GTOR
The idea was to get something different to the M5 that I already have!

Noble - I like the look of the M400's but they are still a bit expensive for me.

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hertfordshire1 said:
The idea was to get something different to the M5 that I already have!

Noble - I like the look of the M400's but they are still a bit expensive for me.

Steve
Hi Steve

HOw are you ? Also did you get the clutch fixed on the M5?

Now to suggestions.

Porsche 993 Turbo LHD
Ferrari 348 Coupe or Spider
Lancia Integrale Evo 2 + cat Big seats (215BHP)
Skyline suggested before
Lancer Evo 6 or 7

Humm choices ....choices ...

Good luck and keep us informed

PS this does not include any BMW as I thourght you wanted to get something different.
 

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Simonal said:
Hi Steve

HOw are you ? Also did you get the clutch fixed on the M5?

Now to suggestions.

Porsche 993 Turbo LHD
Ferrari 348 Coupe or Spider
Lancia Integrale Evo 2 + cat Big seats (215BHP)
Skyline suggested before
Lancer Evo 6 or 7

Humm choices ....choices ...

Good luck and keep us informed

PS this does not include any BMW as I thourght you wanted to get something different.
Hello mate,

Yes got the clutch and various other bits sorted..

You are thinking along the same lines as me.
Love the Integrale (have always wanted one), but i'm guessing that they would seem a bit slow compared to the M5?

It is hard with so many choices....

How is your touring going?

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Absolutely no question - Aerial Atom - the supercharged one.

Don't go 4wd and/or turbo. For a second car, you want light weight and plenty of power.........
 

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Absolutely no question - Aerial Atom - the supercharged one.

Don't go 4wd and/or turbo. For a second car, you want light weight and plenty of power.........
I was looking at one of these also.
Until I read this months EVO and they don't rate it too well!!

:rolleyes:

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I was looking at one of these also.
Until I read this months EVO and they don't rate it too well!!

:rolleyes:

Steve
I'd go and test drive one if I was you - ideally on a track - even if it costs you a few quid.

What was it the evo boys didn't like?

If it's handling, that can be sorted cos it has adjustable dampers etc etc.
 

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I'd go and test drive one if I was you - ideally on a track - even if it costs you a few quid.

What was it the evo boys didn't like?

If it's handling, that can be sorted cos it has adjustable dampers etc etc.
They said it was too sharp and your are constantly trying to stop it darting all over the place!!!

But 35K on a car i could only drive when it's not raining in this country may not be too clever!

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Steve

If you want to track it and use it normally too then I cannot think of anything better in terms of reliability and quality than the Porsche range. The only drawback is the running costs.

Other than that Ferrari? Too flash. Maserati? Reliable or parts availability may be an issue?

If you could get a Dodge Viper for that amount would you consider a US lump?

I met the guy in charge of the Viper Project - his name was William Smith, and he was telling me the whole story behind the cars making. You know they apparently copied part of the Ferrari F40's suspension set up on the Viper. So I was told.

I think you can get tuned models of the Viper, called the GTS 's or something, and apparently its very easy to tune that big V10.

Good luck deciding, what a great position to be in!!

Regards

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They said it was too sharp and your are constantly trying to stop it darting all over the place!!!
Sounds perfect!! Really focussed.............

If I was chucking that kind of money into a "play" car, I'd certainly consider an Atom seriously enough to go for a test drive in one.

Or here's an alternative - go racing.

I'm doing in the 750 Motor Club Kit Car Championship. £5-£10k will buy you a decent car and you'd expect to spend around £5k per annum running it. You can't have more fun with your pants on!!! :M5thumbs:
 

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My own personal take on 2nd cars is that they should be for FUN.

Porkers, TVRs etc etc just aren't special or different enough.

A lightweight car with good power will be the perfect antidote to the M5.

I love my M5 - as an everyday proposition - but I love my Striker (Caterham type kit car) for it's immediacy, it's light weight, it's lack of inertia, it's razor sharp turn in, it's mid corner adjustability.

It's only got 150-odd bhp, but since it weighs in at just over 500kg, it makes the M5 seem pedestrian in every sense - handling, grip, braking, acceleration....
 

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Sounds perfect!! Really focussed.............

If I was chucking that kind of money into a "play" car, I'd certainly consider an Atom seriously enough to go for a test drive in one.

Or here's an alternative - go racing.

I'm doing in the 750 Motor Club Kit Car Championship. £5-£10k will buy you a decent car and you'd expect to spend around £5k per annum running it. You can't have more fun with your pants on!!! :M5thumbs:
Go racing!!!!

There's an idea...

I'll get a drive in the Atom. They do look mental, but totally impractical!!

With regards to Vipers and such, not really my bag. The impression i get about these Ameriacan cars is that they go well in a straight line and thats about it!!!

Maybe I'm wrong.........

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Steve, lucky to be in that position for starters. I think Rob's on the money, 'budget' racing should be considered, I never understand how people chuck buckets of money at their road cars only to do 1/4mile runs and track days every other weekend when they could buy a formula ford, ginetta g4, caterham/stryker etc. If had the money I would have to try a Radical SR3 or that new v8 they are building, a Lotus Exige would keep you dry and is no doubt great fun to drive.
If you are thinking more refinement, then I think a Noble would be a good choice, although a chipped RS4 would cetainly give you a kick in the arse when required, dont know how well they handle.
Worth remembering the depreciation factor of your next toy, a specialist car may hold its value better.

Phil.
 
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