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Well it has been 2 weeks now I have owned the M5! Wow is all I can say.. This car is a great car. Drives better than my A3. More fun that R32.

I took such a Risk with this M5. Never driven a E34 or even a M5. Just went for and it appears to be paying off. Have now gotten a Owners Manual in English so I have a refference point for things that come up on the Computer and using the car etc. Very useful.

Had Avon ZZ3's fitted all round to her yesterday and boy what a difference. So much more grip and power can be planted better. The old tyres where very worn.

Even tho this car is LHD I still love it, even more so at the moment as Iam running on German Plates still. The car feels like new. The doors are heavy and solid. This is a truely good car.

Now having driven her a few times, I am getting used to RWD. Amazing how easy it is to syke yourself out with having it. Not ever owning a RWD car. Getting used to it is fun, but fun must be controled due to her power and wieght. If it goes round too far its going to expensive depending on where Iam at the time. The noise and sound from the engine is truely awesome not to mention the punch and power that you get! She maybe heavy but boy is this car well manared and fun! Steering is light but not too light, that you don't feel what the car is doing.

When BMW built this car they built it Motorsport History and car passion as this reflects throughout the car while driving her and also just looking at her.

This car is everything I could of wanted and more has the low miles, the options and fun that I wanted. For under 10k this is truely a awesome car for the money! Its just proves that Big is fun!!

Also a big thanks to MCP Motorsport for helping to source and bring back this beast!

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Well it has been 2 weeks now I have owned the M5! Wow is all I can say.. This car is a great car. Drives better than my A3. More fun that R32.

I took such a Risk with this M5. Never driven a E34 or even a M5. Just went for and it appears to be paying off. Have now gotten a Owners Manual in English so I have a refference point for things that come up on the Computer and using the car etc. Very useful.

Had Avon ZZ3's fitted all round to her yesterday and boy what a difference. So much more grip and power can be planted better. The old tyres where very worn.

Even tho this car is LHD I still love it, even more so at the moment as Iam running on German Plates still. The car feels like new. The doors are heavy and solid. This is a truely good car.

Now having driven her a few times, I am getting used to RWD. Amazing how easy it is to syke yourself out with having it. Not ever owning a RWD car. Getting used to it is fun, but fun must be controled due to her power and wieght. If it goes round too far its going to expensive depending on where Iam at the time. The noise and sound from the engine is truely awesome not to mention the punch and power that you get! She maybe heavy but boy is this car well manared and fun! Steering is light but not too light, that you don't feel what the car is doing.

When BMW built this car they built it Motorsport History and car passion as this reflects throughout the car while driving her and also just looking at her.

This car is everything I could of wanted and more has the low miles, the options and fun that I wanted. For under 10k this is truely a awesome car for the money! Its just proves that Big is fun!!

Also a big thanks to MCP Motorsport for helping to source and bring back this beast!

:cheers:

Thanks
Glad to see another new owner, like me, who really appreciates their new M-car.
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The other thing I think you may notice is that unlike the VW-Audi group cars where there is so much scope to make improvements, to turn the car into the one you wanted in the first place i.e. Brakes, suspension, wheels etc and even then there is no gurantee that you will get there in the end after making all those improvements!

The one thing I have noticed about the M-Cars is that each one seems virutally complete which makes it very difficult to modify and improve. The exhausts systems are very well optimised, so finding a replacement that is more efficient is difficult especially if you want to maintain a near orginal balance (noise, durability. etc). The same goes for the suspension and the brakes. Now I am not saying that these are perfect for all but for the majority they are an excellent solution and a far better solution than offered from the VW-Audi cars I have sampled.


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Many thanks for your reply to this.

I have to say that I have been there. G60's and VR's and then my R32. Throwing money at them and only to get gains that were good but not as good as RWD car could be. Ok my R32 was a 4mo Dub underneath but she was heavy for the Litre of engine and tho handled very well taught me one thing. It is more important to be able to jump in a drive a car than spend £'s on a car for it to still be sitting at home waiting for this or that due to the fact you find more things to do.

Iam upgrading the Exhaust and Brakes as I feel they just need that little something. But everything else is spot on and how it should be!! No Halfords bolt on here!!
 

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Many thanks for your reply to this.

I have to say that I have been there. G60's and VR's and then my R32. Throwing money at them and only to get gains that were good but not as good as RWD car could be. Ok my R32 was a 4mo Dub underneath but she was heavy for the Litre of engine and tho handled very well taught me one thing. It is more important to be able to jump in a drive a car than spend £'s on a car for it to still be sitting at home waiting for this or that due to the fact you find more things to do.

I am upgrading the Exhaust and Brakes as I feel they just need that little something. But everything else is spot on and how it should be!! No Halfords bolt on here!!
I had a look at the pictures of your car when you posted them earlier and as is a slightly earlier car I understand that you may want to upgrade the brakes although I think the standard ones are fine for normal driving but as I know from some other posts you are planning more track days then I think this is a good course of action.

But yes I agree with you about the problems with the VW and how much money you spend along with the "always waiting for next super part" to make the car better, I had a Rallye Golf for around 9 years and I changed the interior, Suspension, brakes, chip, Sunroof mechanisum, Exhaust, wheels and tyres, lights (front and rear), mirrors and I was waiting to change the charger and induction system but as you say always waiting for the next improvement.

But when I got my first taste of M-cars in the form of an E30 M3 convertible I was extremely impressed with the standard car, although I did change the wheels, exhaust and short shift but the car was incrediably fun to drive and this made a huge difference. Even if the car was standard it was fantastic I drove if for a while on the standard wheels and the car handled as if on rails - fantastic.

All it goes to show is the level of development that BMW M department put in to developing all the cars that wear the badge - long may it continue.:M5launch:

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Oh yes I forgot about those pics. I didn't buy that Grey car. I have a Black 93 M!

Yes I think its always that thing for power and you must have this and that. I left the VW world for something different and fun that was still built well. Im not knocking other makes etc. But to me when I jumped into a 10+ year old car it wasn't a car of that age! Thats the important thing. The Dubs are dated some what.. and the scene in the UK is killing itself! But hey Iv moved on and would only have a VW for a daily now..

The M just gets better and better once you have done better on that corner or the next its always with the attitude "I am ready I am a M, this is why I was built"
 

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Oh yes I forgot about those pics. I didn't buy that Grey car. I have a Black 93 M!

Yes I think its always that thing for power and you must have this and that. I left the VW world for something different and fun that was still built well. Im not knocking other makes etc. But to me when I jumped into a 10+ year old car it wasn't a car of that age! Thats the important thing. The Dubs are dated some what.. and the scene in the UK is killing itself! But hey Iv moved on and would only have a VW for a daily now..

The M just gets better and better once you have done better on that corner or the next its always with the attitude "I am ready I am a M, this is why I was built"
Burton
It is good to hear enthusiasm about a hot saloon that was developed nearly 2 decades ago. I went from a Skyline GTR 32 to a 3.8 M5 over 4 yrs ago & it was obviously not for power.... (my GTR had 476 bhp) The M5 in any Mark is a superb all rounder.
It is the end result rather than the sum of the parts that make it cool.

Running costs are high but if you stay on top of things you will have a car all enthusiasts will recognise as a true modern classic.

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Oh yes I forgot about those pics. I didn't buy that Grey car. I have a Black 93 M!

Yes I think its always that thing for power and you must have this and that. I left the VW world for something different and fun that was still built well. Im not knocking other makes etc. But to me when I jumped into a 10+ year old car it wasn't a car of that age! Thats the important thing. The Dubs are dated some what.. and the scene in the UK is killing itself! But hey Iv moved on and would only have a VW for a daily now..

The M just gets better and better once you have done better on that corner or the next its always with the attitude "I am ready I am a M, this is why I was built"
I agree about the VW scene in the UK a friend of mine stopped suplying parts for the VW side of things for just that reason. I think you are right the reason so many of us love these E34's is that they are still a sophisticated car to drive every day you can live with the car and then at the weekend you have a supercar with all the fun that this entails and I do mean a supercar not at just a car pretending to be one.

I have supprised a number of people in my estate especially some guy who thourght the he was making swift progress in his 550 Maranello until he came up against me:wroom: and then I think he was wondering if he had lost power and also why his car did not seem to be out handling this 10 year old estate car in front of him.

I hope you enjoy your car as much as I do mine sounds like you intend a long relationship.

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Simon,

I want to keep this car for along time. The car has so much Character I think I will go to the with her and let her meet my mates!!

Just driving the car you get a feel what this car is all about!! Its awesome and for under 10k a bargin in anyones world!!
 

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Simon,

I want to keep this car for along time. The car has so much Character I think I will go to the with her and let her meet my mates!!

Just driving the car you get a feel what this car is all about!! Its awesome and for under 10k a bargin in anyones world!!
Agreed I like the way Farrell summed it up the M5 is not about the individual parts it is how they are combined and the result that they give the driver.

I think IMHO this is what has always distanced the M5 from it's rivals. Even though the E39 was outgunned in power (versus the E55 and others) but after magizines drove the cars again back to back the M5 always came out on top and that was because although it may not have been the fastest of the pack it was the most complete car and in the end gave the most driver satisfaction. This to my mind is the thread that runs through all the M5 range. I only hope in the pursuit of power that they have not forgotton us the enthusiast.

But until they produce another Touring M5 I cannot see an alternative that offers quite the right blend of qualities.

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Burton:

How did you go about aquiring a english owners manual? I would love to do the same for my 95. The best I have now is a owners manual written in German and a US manual for a 93 US spec 3.6. Would love to know if there is a way I could get a 95 manual in english for my car.

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Burton:

How did you go about aquiring a english owners manual? I would love to do the same for my 95. The best I have now is a owners manual written in German and a US manual for a 93 US spec 3.6. Would love to know if there is a way I could get a 95 manual in english for my car.

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Hi John

I think Burton got his english manual somewhere else but there is also a guy I used who does this as a business called John Drake.

I have dealt with him twice once for my E30 M3 and now for the M5.

His details are +44 (0) 1590 645 623 (www.johnsmodelcars.co.uk) Sells models, brochures and Books as well as Zymol.

Hope this helps.

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Nice too see that we love the E34 for what it is.. A Drivers car that not only gives good feed back also has great passion!

I got my manual from John Drake! Very nice chap! Also got a Brochure of the M5 from him.

I feel that the E34 is still up there with the best of them... The bigger brother to the E30 M3, that never really got to show his stuff to the world!
 

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I was completely underwhelmed by the straight line grunt (or lack of it) when I first got mine.

But two months later, I'm acutely aware that these cars are about so much more than just acceleration.

Kurt Ramsden told me that his really "grew" on him - and mine's doing the same. The more I use it, the more I like it.

I reckon if someone had a one off test drive, they wouldn't be overly impressed. But if they could try it for a couple of months, they'd love it.

I couldn't go back to a ricer now!!! :hihi:
 

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I found this car to have alot of go. Alot more than my R32 Golf!! I will have to see how it compares to a Twin Turbo Supra, as one of my mates has a standard Jap Spec one!
 

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Nice too see that we love the E34 for what it is.. A Drivers car that not only gives good feed back also has great passion!

I got my manual from John Drake! Very nice chap! Also got a Brochure of the M5 from him.

I feel that the E34 is still up there with the best of them... The bigger brother to the E30 M3, that never really got to show his stuff to the world!
Sorry Burton I thought you got it from the other guy who was recommended, and yes John is nice guy.

I can confirm that I think it is very much the bigger brother to E30 M3 in any number of ways mostly it is in feel. Although it does not have quite the agility of its smaller brother it is very near both are fantastic driving machines for different reasons which is kind of what makes them special.

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Oh right thats ok mate!

Yes they are both fantasic machines. The E30 will always have the edge. But the E34 even with its weight penatly can still handle and turn in like a lighter car!
 
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