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  1. BMW brand records best month ever (notice BMW brand, not automobile)

    E60 M5 and E61 M5 Touring Discussion
    Gustav, Pleased to see someone else has already posted the whole article and I didn't even notice MEnthusiast's quote from it in the thread above! I'm anyhow now one of the people Bangle 'left behind', after many, many years of devotion to the BMW brand. What a jerk. Regards, Paul
  2. BMW brand records best month ever (notice BMW brand, not automobile)

    E60 M5 and E61 M5 Touring Discussion
    Here are the last three paragraphs of a page one lead article on BMW in the Wall Street Journal today, titled: Navigating Curves BMW's Push to Broaden Line Hits Some Bumps in the Road World-Wide Sales Are Up, But Style, Tech Glitches Turn Off Longtime Fans A Wurst in Three Sizes By NEAL E...
  3. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    Thanks. It is indeed leased, but I will be driving it for three years so want it to perform perfectly during that time. I'm like you in terms of being careful, anal!
  4. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    The 997S does indeed have 19" wheels with 295/30 rear and 235/35 front. With PASM engaged, which is default, it is certainly a much tighter, taughter ride than an M5, but not objectionable. I have not driven a 996 series car but it is evidently a lot more civilized. I would put it this way...
  5. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    'Breaking in is hard to do....' to borrow from the old song! 2,000 miles at below 4,200 RPM according the manual, though my dealer claims it's not necessary. But I tend to take such things seriously. What are your thoughts on this? Re my M5, three things argued against keeping it unfortunately...
  6. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    Thank you, Gustav. I think the issue was that my 5 megapixel camera is creating 2.3MB JPEG files and the board limit is 2MB. I don't have an application on my notebook to scale the files down. I have Photoshop CS on my Mac, but have never mastered it (shame on me!!). Paul
  7. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    Pete, Thanks for your kind words. My initial reaction to the car: * It just feels 'tighter' all round than my M5. A little more refined. * I haven't broken in the tires fully yet so am not pushing it, but 'slot car' is no exageration. * It is, to my eye, utterly voluptuous. The E39 was a...
  8. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    Thanks, Ashok!
  9. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    And how! Base on an S is $79K, . Mine cost $93K. It takes some getting used to after BMW where there were only a handful of relatively inexpensive options on the M5 and just about everything included in the base price, including three years of service. The 997 is expected to hold its value...
  10. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    A Bangle hate club? There is an international Hate Bangle Federation, with offices in fifteen countries, I think! The worldwide BMW enthusiast community has been up in arms over the man for the past three years since the introduction of the new 7 series.
  11. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately I only have one garage space for myself! An E60 M5 and a 997TT would be a great combo. I'm envious at the thought!!
  12. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    Here is a photo (or maybe not, since I'm not sure I downloaded it right), but anyhow the advertising photos look better, and the car itself looks even better in real life, in my view. It is voluptous, sensual, sexy.......everything BMWs used to be before the Bangle era. Interestingly Autoweek...
  13. Traded my M5 for a 997S

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    Today I dropped off my M5 and picked up my new 997S. Arctic silver, full black leather, active sports seats, sports chrono, Bose, etc. After three years of perfect bliss I felt more than a little sad as I cleaned out and abandoned my M5, but I have to say that my first 20 minutes in the 997S...
  14. Rear End Rattle

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    I have a stock car but the same general problem, it seems. I was told the standard rubber bushings had deteriorated (after 35-40K miles driving in the North East).
  15. New 911

    E60 M5 and E61 M5 Touring Discussion
    MEnthusiast, I agree with you: 'No uncalled for details'. That's the problem. One looks at some of the E60 stylistic details and asks onself: why? That is surely the wrong emotional response and not indicative of great design. I agree with you that from some angles the 7 series looks good...
  16. Rear End Rattle

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    It is absolutely heat-mitigated. I drove down to Washington today. Sure enough, driving onto our street this morning - what a racket. By the time I was on the highway, all was quite. I parked in DC for three hours. On leaving: what a racket, but a short time later, on the same dreadful quality...
  17. New 911

    E60 M5 and E61 M5 Touring Discussion
    Terk, I have no doubt that on an engineering and performance level the new M60 should be peerless and continue in the tradition of the E39. But I went to the Geneva Auto Show earlier this year to see the M5 Concept and what struck me was that all the new generation of BMW cars looked, at...
  18. New 911

    E60 M5 and E61 M5 Touring Discussion
    I think I would have preferred the Seal Grey, but in all other respects the car is 100% what I was looking for and I should have it available well within my current lease period. I must say, I agree very much with your points re the new M5 but didn't realize there was quite so much emotion...
  19. New 911

    E60 M5 and E61 M5 Touring Discussion
    Unfortunatley I have a Chase lease rather than BMW's as I did in the past. Chase was asking approx $54,000 incl tax for an '02 M5 (mine) with over 40,000 miles on it and giving me only a very short time to decide as I remember it. I spoke with them and they claimed the price was Blue Book and...
  20. Rear End Rattle

    E39 M5 and E52 Z8 Discussion
    Your description, x703jko, jibes 100% with mine and it has been driving me CRAZY for six months. First one dealership replaced the front end, then another swaybars and joints, but it continued and recently got worse. But according the most recent diagnosis which the mechanic confirmed through...
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