Bugatti Veyron Spypics from South Africa!

Ashok Arora · Feb 16, 2003

The performance figures say it all - that is one mad vehicle

tfung · Feb 16, 2003

I never saw the rear of this car before.. and man.. it's ugly.... what's up with that ricer wing... it better be able to retract down when you're not going fast...

alpinadvl · Feb 16, 2003

tfung said:
... it better be able to retract down when you're not going fast...

the rear wing does retract.

Danish · Feb 16, 2003

silverstone400 · Feb 17, 2003

if i lived in south africa
I 'd steal it
:viking:

chazzy · Feb 17, 2003

silverstone400 said:
if i lived in south africa
I 'd steal it
:viking:

And then you'd get a face full of flamethrower!
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/

The 0-300 kph in 14s is absolutely unbelievable.

Hutzal · Feb 17, 2003

the problem is, they don't know how to make a car lighter, so they just make a HUGE engine...a W16? What the hell kind of engine is that...car companies need to start making lighter cars for higher speeds instead of heavier with more power. I think alot of car enthusiasts would go for those kind of cars more.

The performance figures are obviously good, but they needed a 1000HP just to beat the MacF1 that was made in 95? and it doesn't beat its top speed by much (10 MPH).

i would take Macf1 over this beast any day...its just too bulky and big and heavy.

kees · Feb 17, 2003

The top speed of the Bugatti is 406 km/h - the McLaren 'only' does 386 km/h - at this level of the game aerodynamic laws dictate that you need way more power for only a slight increase in speed...and a car's weight has very little effect on topspeed...so a more powerful, heavier car will ultimately have a higher topspeed than a less powerful, lighter car.

But I agree...I would rather see a lineup of lightweight, less powerful cars...

/Kees

qrac · Feb 17, 2003

how much does it weigh?
i found a weight figure for the engine (315 kg) but not for the car.

Yupkwondo · Feb 17, 2003

Hutzal said:
the problem is, they don't know how to make a car lighter, so they just make a HUGE engine...

I'm not real sure how heavy it really is, but I'm thinking it's pretty light. It's 100% carbon fiber and aluminium. They used the best and lightest materials they could. I heard somewhere it was like 2800-3000 lbs, or something insane like that so, that power to weight ratio is absolutly crazyness!!

~ Jason
2001 Lemans/Lemans

-MVI- · Feb 17, 2003

Check out www.bugatti-cars.com, there's some interesting pictures and animations about the engine and transmission.

MEnthusiast · Feb 17, 2003

cool pics! thanks for sharing. I agree- it is a mad car! I also dont really love the look, but it is distinctive and interesting.

atomic80 · Feb 17, 2003

What is even more mind boggling for me is that this beast has enough power to outdo both two M5's plus say a Geo Metro.

Makes me think of the saying..."absolute power corrupts."

VanCooper · Feb 18, 2003

When you thought twin turbo's were enough, they have to come out with Quad turbo's in one car...these french people are nuts, but who can blame them, this should be a hair raising experience like nothing else on earth!

Can you imagine taking off in a 747 and seeing this thing pull away from the plane on the highway next to the runway

Hutzal · Feb 18, 2003

well, i guess what i am trying to say is that If gordon Murray decided to make the Next Gen MacF1...i am sure he could get a higher top speed with no forced induction, and with a lighter car.

alpywhite · Feb 18, 2003

Reality check: 0-200 km/h (125 mph) in less than 14 seconds is more than respectable... :confused3

M5Phil · Feb 18, 2003

One interesting facts for those who just look at
top speed, it's interesting but the point where
there is most resistance which is basically an
exponential curve is mach .99 mach 1 being
the speed of sound. Anyways sound informs
air that there is an object heading towards it so
it builds up density creating basically a brick wall,
in other words if you could use something like
nitrous to get past mach 1 you would be set.
On the concorde it uses afterburneres from
there it just flows. Hope this helps, thats why
they need 1000HP note weight is not that big
of an issue at that speed the Cf is an issue
which is friction caused by the wheels. As I said
it's exponential so it's a rather nasty curve of
resistance, in butt reality terms it's more or less
like hitting a brick wall of air.

M Power · Feb 18, 2003

Remember Gordon Murray works for the "dark side" ..

He is currently refining the MBenz SLR.. but yes, he did a fanaastic job on the F1.. a car that has yet to be surpassed, 8 years after it was released.

And, coming from South Africa, the car hijackers do not randomly take cars.. they usually have an "order book" which they fill for their clients.. Unfortunately, they care little whether the owner / passenger are killed or not.

BlueBiturbo · Feb 18, 2003

alpywhite said:
Reality check: 0-200 km/h (125 mph) in less than 14 seconds is more than respectable... :confused3

I think the Veyron will be much quiker than that, since the Porsche Carrera GT will do 0-200 km/h in 9.9s with "only" 600+ps

Hutzal · Feb 18, 2003

the carrara GT has an N/A engine right?

oh ya, and its 0-300 in under 14 seconds...you're only 100KM's off

BlueBiturbo · Feb 18, 2003

Hey, this is interesting:

Bore x stroke = 86mm x 86mm
It's actually the same bore x stroke as the E36 M3-3.0

And the engine is not overstressed at all at 125 ps/l or equals to a 375 ps M3-3.0 engine (if turbocharged).

The only thing I don't like, other than styling, is the 4WD system. Not a nice car to do a quick 0-60 unless you want to cook the cluth, especially with a torque numbers like that. Have you seen the Murc vs Zonda video with JC? He had to gently let the Murc roll a little before giving it full acceleration from standstill.

PS:
What is Audi doing testing in ZA? Are they really desperate to lose three prototypes?

Lucky they drove it in the nice Cape Town area, not Jo-Burg

Aviator · Feb 18, 2003

It's coming......

Aviator · Feb 18, 2003

Oh yeah, as much as I love the unique layout of the Mac F1 interior, this wins......so lovely.....note 7 speed transmition.

And the wing does completly retract. The two tone paint is so classy and fitting.

-MVI- · Feb 18, 2003

BlueBiturbo said:
The only thing I don't like, other than styling, is the 4WD system. Not a nice car to do a quick 0-60 unless you want to cook the cluth, especially with a torque numbers like that. Have you seen the Murc vs Zonda video with JC? He had to gently let the Murc roll a little before giving it full acceleration from standstill.

It has the Direct Shift Gearbox Transmission that uses twin-clutch system (used in the new Audi TT and VW Golf R32).
There's no clutch pedal in DSG, so not much worries about burning the clutch.

Info About DSG

Freesock · Feb 19, 2003

Jet black M5 in Van said:
these french people are nuts, but who can blame them, this should be a hair raising experience like nothing else on earth!

Zeez are zee Germans...

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