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Old 15th September 2004, 17:22   #1
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for the guys looking to buy

i got this from some guy i havent done business with , so i dont know if its for real.


THIS IS TOP OF THE LINE, ONLY ONE AND MINT! IT'S ACTUALLY A DEMO MODEL! GOES TO THE BLOCK ON FRIDAY! CERTIFIED CHECK FOR 60K! PLUS FEE(S)!

2003 B M W M SERIES M5 4D SEDAN
VIN: WBSDE93493CF93734
Color: BLUE
Mileage: 5,741
Location: Manheim A.A.
Announcements:
Sale Date: 09/17/2004
Lane: 28
Run: 171
Options: 6S :describe('6-Speed%20Manual%20Transmission')> 8G :describe('8-Cylinder%20Gas')> AC :describe('Air%20Conditioning')> CC :describe('Cruise%20Control')> DL :describe('Electric%20Door%20Locks')> EW :describe('Electric%20Windows')> PB :describe('Power%20Brakes')> PS :describe('Power%20Steering')>
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Old 15th September 2004, 17:25   #2
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Re: for the guys looking to buy

thats weird it didnt put the email address. DigitalAutoUS@aol.com orDigitalAutoUSataol.com
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Re: for the guys looking to buy

Is there a Password and Username for Manheim.com??
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Old 16th September 2004, 03:31   #4
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Is there a Password and Username for Manheim.com??
Yeah.

and it is really hard to get one-

Folks that have them buy cars- if their password gets out they loose the access... you need a car resale license (and a bona fide business) to get one.

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Old 16th September 2004, 05:22   #5
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i sent back an email asking what the fees were on top of the purchase price, heres what he wrote back

All fee(s) combined about $1000 - $1200 which also includes transportation of the car back to NY. You pay your own taxes at DMV, we can also store the car if you need a couple of days.No matter how you slice it with fees and all the most you'll pay is wholesale tops, but most of the time it's a little less than that, this model is top of the line....top shelf stuff here.
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Old 16th September 2004, 06:12   #6
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How does one spend $60k 'sight unseen'?

If I were doing this, either they'd own it until I inspected and purchased OR I'd got to the auction with my own mechanic.

Seems like even THEY don't know anything about the car- I assume they're just seeing the Mannheim listing- is there an inspection process??
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How does one spend $60k 'sight unseen'?

If I were doing this, either they'd own it until I inspected and purchased OR I'd got to the auction with my own mechanic.

Seems like even THEY don't know anything about the car- I assume they're just seeing the Mannheim listing- is there an inspection process??
All cars go through an inspection process. I buy cars at Manheims Auto Auctions all the time. The only way you can arbitrate a car is if it has un-announced frame damage, flood damage, etc. There are other ways to get it arbitrated, but it's a PITA.

That reminds me...I need to go renew my bond
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2003 B M W M SERIES M5 4D SEDAN
VIN: WBSDE93493CF93734
Color: BLUE
Mileage: 5,741
Location: Manheim A.A.
Announcements:
Sale Date: 09/17/2004
Lane: 28
Run: 171...
In case anyone's curious, I checked my Manheim archives and this is what I found on this one,

9/10/04 - APPARENTLY DIDN'T SELL:
27 11 2003 B M W M SERIES M5 4D SEDAN 8G/6 5,741 BLUE WBSDE93493CF93734 X

9/17/04 - APPARENTLY DIDN'T SELL:
28 171 2003 B M W M SERIES M5 4D SEDAN 8G/6 5,741 BLUE WBSDE93493CF93734 X

9/23/04 - APPARENTLY DIDN'T SELL:
9 108 2003 B M W M SERIES M5 4D SEDAN 8G/6 5,741 BLUE WBSDE93493CF93734 X

9/24/04 - APPARENTLY DIDN'T SELL:
28 193 2003 B M W M SERIES M5 4D SEDAN 8G/6 5,741 BLUE WBSDE93493CF93734 X

Haven't checked for this in next week's Pre-Sale list but should be there since I didn't see it in last week's Post-Sale report. Please report back if anyone has more info or personal insight on this '03. Thanks.
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Re: for the guys looking to buy

ask and yee shall receive:

We own it for 57,750 and will sell for 58,750. Otherwise we have a truck coming tonight and plan on taking it to auction. Let me know if you want to see it:



VIN: WBSDE93493CF93734



I am happy to fax a BMW build sheet to you as well. Let me know asap if the price point interests you and I will hold the car here for you to see.



Sincerely,





Jason E. Thoensen

BMW of Arlington Internet Sales

1221 S. Fern Street

Arlington, VA 22202

Direct: 703.647.1825

Fax: 703.647.1839

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ard
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:12 PM
To: BMW of Arlington (Jason Thoensen)
Subject: RE: M5



Send me the VIN when you can- thx



-----Original Message-----
From: BMW of Arlington (Jason Thoensen) [mailto:jasont@bmwofarlington.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:02 AM
To: 'Ard'
Subject: RE: M5




This was actually a local trade-in at our Audi store.....they bought an A8 from us and traded the M5. It looks as if it was just a poor paint job......not really any structural damage. We just don't want the hassle even though it would qualify for certification because it is an M5. I will get back to you on price......it'll be $1000 over trade-in value and that will include a full detail.


THis was a while ago...

I never saw it- ask he said "not REALLY any structural damage" just a bad paint job..


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ask and yee shall receive:...
We own it for 57,750 and will sell for 58,750. Otherwise we have a truck coming tonight and plan on taking it to auction. Let me know if you want to see it:
VIN: WBSDE93493CF93734
...
This was actually a local trade-in at our Audi store.....they bought an A8 from us and traded the M5. It looks as if it was just a poor paint job......not really any structural damage. We just don't want the hassle even though it would qualify for certification because it is an M5. I will get back to you on price......it'll be $1000 over trade-in value and that will include a full detail.

...
THis was a while ago...
I never saw it- ask he said "not REALLY any structural damage" just a bad paint job..
ard
Appreciate the info and quick response! That really explains why it's not selling for anything close to what they say they have in it. But at least they're honest since they did take it to the auction. The "poor paint job" is extremly damaging and even at $1,000 above trade-in value it wouldn't make sense IMO. Just because a dealer or a wholesaler overpays for something, you shouldn't have to. Thanks again, will continue my search for more of the top shelf '01-'03 M5's locally, preferably private party ones with perfect histories...
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