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post #1 of 11 Old 3rd September 2002, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
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I was at my 1st track day with my 964 Turbo on Sunday. It was with the Porsche Club of Sweden so only porsches there (no bimmers!) and it was in Sweden at the Gelleråsen track.

First of all I would encourage all of you who have never driven on a track to try it. If you really are car enthousiasts this is the way to go and it's a lot of fun. I have already registered for the next event on the 28th of September . All I have to say is GO FOR IT ! Now some remarks :

1 - The 964 Turbo is clearly not the easiest car to drive on the track. You have to try and guess when the turbo will kick in and in the beginning I was afraid it would come too early so I punched th e gas pedal to late and had no power (not much happens with this car before 3500rpms) going out of curves. After a few laps I just gave full gas as soon as I had stopped braking and started the turn in. I decided no to go down to 2nd gear (I tried a few times and lost time changing gears). Of course at the end of the 20 min session the rear tires started to brake loose easily with this kind of treatment . Even doing this some non Turbo carreras had more power than I had coming out of the curves (more about this later)

2 - Brakes. A lot has been said about brakes on this site but I want to add my own (short)experience. Brakes are to me the most important thing. You need to be able to trust them 100%. At the end of the straight line if I had had the guts to push the car to the limit I would have hit 200km/h. I stopped at 190 as best and sarted braking too early each time mainly because I was thinking to much and because I didn't feel I could trust the brakes to 100%. As it turned out I had no brake fade so to Porsche for that, but next time I will have some more maintenance done on my brakes beforehand.

3 - So how did I fare ? For the first 20 min session I started first and nobody passed me . A guy with a mid 80ies carrera caught up with me towards the end and we fought over a lap but he couldn't pass. Then we got stuck into traffic but I could get out of it faster than he did (sometimes the turbo is not that bad after all). Then I caught up with a Boxter S and had a good fun puting some pressure on him before it was over. I did pass a lot of car including the dreaded 996 Turbo (of course it was a "user error", I am not saying my car is faster, no flame there)

Second session I started first again and the Carrera guy was not far away... . Everything started as before but this time 1st a 993 caught up with me, I tried to hold a bit but had to let him go, to my relief it was a 993 biturbo and there wasn't much I could do, he had much more power coming out of the turns and it wasn't necessary for him to drive to the hedge to be faster! Then the Carrera guy caught up with me and I let him pass and tried to follow which made me make a few mistakes (coming too fast into turns ). After cooling down a bit i drove very regularly and caught up with him again which needless to say, made my day . Then it was over again and it felt like only 5 mins had passed.

I talked to the Carrera driver in between sessions but he was not talkative. I just noticed he had very used racing tires on, so I went a bit relieved thinking hopefully he was not a beginner
Overall I was very happy I could hold my own with a difficult car but I was very tired (the whole morning was training on different sections before the 2 20 mins sessions) and I was very happy Gustav had joined me for the day and could drive me home. We had some "races" driving home, with an S3, a bike or two an instructor for the porsche club (I am going to be banned from the club!) and a 330BMW ! Gustav does have the right spirit

Sorry for being so long but I am so happy I had to share . May be next time I will have had saved enough money to buy a digital camera and post some pics, as it is I just bought new tires ....

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Vince, it was very fun! I kept my thumbs for you to keep the distance to the 993 turbo, but that was very well driven.

It was very fun testing the Porsche 964 Turbo, very nice car

Fun to see how fasst every car moves out of the left lane when you show up in a red 911 Turbo
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Vince,

Great writeup!

Now you're also a track day addictive, wait till try Nürburgring!


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Vince, it was very fun! I kept my thumbs for you to keep the distance to the 993 turbo, but that was very well driven.
Yep, thanks but I needed more than that to keep him behind me !

Johan - It feels like it's definitively gona be addictive ! On the 28th it's Knutstorp, may be not the easiest track with my car but good practice and it's the last meeting for the year so I don't want to miss it.

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Excellent story vince!

So is a nurburgring trip planned?

all the best
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Vince, I just got your e-mail regarding the Vanos...thanks anyway buddy its all fixed

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Thanks Adam !
I am sorry I can't find my Vanos change papers anyway ! Irritating, it's better for resale to show it's done.
If I remember correctly you were talking about may be selling your M5. Have you come to a conclusion ?

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By March "hopefully" we will be getting an R Turbo
Nothing definite though
all the best
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Will the 318 Compact be your car to start with ?
If it is great choice, I started with a 316 compact, it's good not to own to powerful a car at the beginning.

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A 318i is a great way to start driving...it has a big engine too 1995cc!

all the best
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And im not going to be allowed within 50meters of the turbo with a driving license

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the 318i compact is extremy nice first car! u are lucky Adam! afterall it is a 140hp rwd car which handles great (also has a small comsumption). And then u can work the way up to RUF!



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