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post #61 of 178 Old 14th April 2015, 10:27 PM
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Because in order to make you look like a good seller you have to follow through on the first couple deals to earn some credit. After that is done you can take the money and run I suppose. Luckily you don't have to prove anything to me but you can fulfill the orders that have already been placed and respond to a few emails instead of leaving them hanging. Also sign up for Paypal and ask them to cover the fee that way when you don't follow through in 3-4 weeks they can get their money back.
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post #62 of 178 Old 14th April 2015, 11:56 PM
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Have you noticed that every time someone mentions PayPal to him, there is no response? It has been mentioned on every page of this thread, but there is no explanation from him! Things that make you go "Hmmm!".
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post #63 of 178 Old 15th April 2015, 12:55 AM
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he told me via email that he used to use PayPal but was burned by buyers in the past. Accoridng to him, PayPal protects buyers but not sellers.

back transfers are an unacceptable form of payment for an oversees seller. if you have received your purchase, congratulations. good luck to those that have paid but have been left hanging. perhaps he will come through.

for me, this seller is not worth my money. especially since he told me he had an SMG III shift knob and trim available for purchase; but when asked for a picture of said item, he could not produce one. i asked why and the response was that he still needed to purchase it himself from a wholesaler/parts supplier/junk yard or what have you.

what kind of business model is that? please pay me money for an item i dont have. i will ship it after i have found it and purchased it myself. ahahaha. no wonder it takes weeks to get a shipping confirmation.
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Burned by buyers? Cool story.... If the seller can't provide any sufficient evidence contradicting the reason of claim from the buyer, of course the buyer wins.

There are a lot of cases when package (goods) might get stuck (a common phenomenon with USPS international packages) But it''s not the buyers, nor the sellers fault. In this case the only and a right thing to is a refund! That's how I proceed in such case.

But given the Hashtagtrends communication with his buyers it's not surprising the dude can't get his bearings together.

I know sometimes there's no time to get it all done. First thing you do is take 4 minutes tops to give a buyer a heads up on your situation and a time frame when the package will be shipped.

The word Moneygram to me literally screams "scammer". I most definitely avoid sellers who use this kind of method for payments. There's no protection at all at either end!

Hashtagtrends, you can't sit on peoples money. You either deliver the goods on a defined timeframe, or you issue a refund if you can't fulfill the deal on your end or the timeframe is exceeded

The day a package leaves origin country, it has one calendar month to get registered at destination country and get cleared thru customs (mostly 20days tops). If it takes longer than that, there's problems (either on USPS end (weather condition, truck accidents, antyhing...) or the customs documents are not complete). You do a refund!
If the customer demands, you do a refund!


The delivery is your responsibility(even though it might seem not). You must take care of the package, and do everything in your power to see it gets delivered.

If you can't carry such responsibilities. Kick the clutch and get outta' here.

I might seem offensive, but most of the guys here will agree with me.
You Mister, are on several forums selling watches and Ferrari stuff (seats or something), I'll take my time to get such thread started on these forums.

You can't scam people on the internet and provide such half-assed customer service without consequences.

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post #65 of 178 Old 15th April 2015, 01:56 AM
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For what it's worth, this is the tracking info I was provided on 4/9 at 10:49 CST

CP157843117PL

Here we are 5+ days later and it's still showing as invalid on USPS and even the Polish post office's website.

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post #66 of 178 Old 15th April 2015, 02:13 AM
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My $0.02 for what it's worth, is based on the fact that there are a lot of accusations, questions, comments, concerns, and most of all money exchanged at this point, where do the site admins stand as far as threads that remain open with parts still being available for sale? I would be worried about continued risk of members trust and loyalty seeing that the potential still exists until we start to see paying customers get their products.

As I did with my very large forum that I sold years ago, I mentioned to all members that the classifieds is a place for member exchange of goods for barter or funds. It is not a place to do business and have tons of open threads with tons of parts. If it is a business, then they need to register as a paying sponsor and set up shop the legit way. This way members know that the site admins have approved this seller to do bulk business, and have no reason to worry about not getting what they paid for. Yes there are exceptions to this statement (Gradus Futura?) but they are very rare.

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No one is bashing you here hastagtrends. You must understand, that you have good items for sale, rare items, and you have quite a lot of items. Therefore you are more of a business, rather than someone, like me for instance, who would post one or two small-ticket items per annum. Also, someone like me who has just joined this forum, wants to deal with a person of a high-ticket item, like interior trim packages, who has nothing but impeccable feedback and something that is quintessential for online transaction, like paypal. (holy **** run-on sentence?)
So, in essence you have more than usual responsibility on this forum, whether you intended it or not. Posting pictures and evidence of shipped items is great, but I want to be able to call up paypal and yank my money from you in case you try to **** me, doesn't matter if you live in Riga or Miami.
Get paypal, answer your client's emails within 12 hours, and lets do business!

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for me, this seller is not worth my money. especially since he told me he had an SMG III shift knob and trim available for purchase; but when asked for a picture of said item, he could not produce one. i asked why and the response was that he still needed to purchase it himself from a wholesaler/parts supplier/junk yard or what have you.

what kind of business model is that? please pay me money for an item i dont have. i will ship it after i have found it and purchased it myself. ahahaha. no wonder it takes weeks to get a shipping confirmation.
Me think you are correct

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post #69 of 178 Old 15th April 2015, 05:14 PM
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One final issue I had that led me to abandon PayPal as method of payment was when I sold a set of facelift 3-series headlights, got paid via paypal and shipped. Item was delivered in timely manner but buyer filed a paypal dispute saying he received incorrect item. OK, paypal froze the funds and I agreed to issue a refund once item is returned to me.

After a while I did receive a package, but the package contained pre-facelift set of headlights. My buyer basically swapped out his lights for free as paypal refunded him in full immediately once his tracking showed up as item delivered (returned) to me. I did my best to work this out with paypal but they see it in black and white - buyer returned package, package shows as delivered, refund issued, problem solved. In fact from what I read this is a fairly popular scam going on now, maybe I was lucky enough to receive any headlights back and not a brick. Try ckecking out paypalsucks website and forums to read more on the magnificent one and only paypal. I am sure you will all say only scammers go there and complain.

Anyway, situation described above caused a negative balance on my paypal account as I did not want to accept a bill for this whole operation in which I lost a set of headlights and that is why I decided not to use it anymore as incoming payments would only go into the negative balance fix.

Now I start to consider using paypal again, due to demand on this forum alone, hopefully I will be able to set it up and maybe do some business with you guys on the safe side for your peace of mind.
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For what it's worth, this is the tracking info I was provided on 4/9 at 10:49 CST

CP157843117PL

Here we are 5+ days later and it's still showing as invalid on USPS and even the Polish post office's website.
@Hashtagtrends - I expect one of the following, today:

- A valid tracking number
- some sort of proof that it's been sent
- A full refund sent to my Paypal account

Your move.

*edit* By the way, I sent you an email requesting a valid tracking number an hour ago. You apparently have time to post here, but not to reply to my email?

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