Why cooperation with Beastpower (Daniel) is suspended + TWIN supercharging of M5 E39

[Gustav]

Hello everybody,

I have suspended Daniel (Beastpower's account) because I feel that he use a too similar name to m5board.com. He have started the community 5board.com, "for 5-series owners and enthusiasts","Visit 5board.com, the online messageboard for BMW owners"

I confronted Daniel with this and told him on the phone that he is very welcome back as a member and sponsor when he choose another domain name for his forum. Daniel got my message and I was expecting him to suspend the use of that domain name.

But the same evening I noticed that he have registred 6board.com, mfivemessageboard.com, m5board.net etc. All several variants of m5board.com and "M5 Messageboard" and m6board.com. I beleive this is unethical, esp. considering the fact that I spoke to him on the phone and he declined to mention this, even though I showed what I felt over his 5board.com registration. Also these names are just the ones I tried that are registred on Daniel, there could me many more variants he registred. This along with Google Adwords (paid searchresults) for "M5 Messageboard" etc.

They say "imitation is the most sincere form of admiration"

Furthermore I beleive to work with someone I have complete confidence in, this goes for a board member (a cooperation based on trust and mutual respect but not money, since membership is free) or a sponsor (based on trust, mutual respect as well as a commercial partnership) such as the one with Beastpower. I do not feel I have this confidence after this incident.

More on this subject on this link:

What happend to Beastpower??

Beastpower started his company on this site. It started out as a group buy for carbon fibre hoods that then became commercial Beastpower and one of the m5board.com first cooperation partners.

Over the years (this sited started in 1996) I have gotten invaluable feedback from you all enthusiastic members and I expect nothing less this time

But I feel that Daniel should change domain name(s) if we should have a continued partnership.

Thanks for listening and you can send me Private Messages if you want to.

On another note his associate (m5board.com member 540is) will double supercharge this M5 that was on the trip to Germany we did in 2000:

http://www.bmwm5.com/articles.php?id=11&page=9

Some of their pics:

http://540is.com/540is/540is.nsf/Fil...e/IMG_0902.JPG
http://540is.com/540is/540is.nsf/Fil...9173_59508.jpg
http://540is.com/540is/540is.nsf/Fil...9174_59508.jpg
http://540is.com/540is/540is.nsf/Fil...9175_59508.jpg
http://540is.com/540is/540is.nsf/Fil...9176_59508.jpg
http://540is.com/540is/540is.nsf/Fil...9177_59508.jpg
http://540is.com/540is/540is.nsf/Fil...9178_59508.jpg
http://540is.com/540is/540is.nsf/Fil...e/IMG_0901.JPG

From 540is:

"...present the M5 that will next week get a TWIN S/C kit, the car will work as a rolling showcase for the kit.

The car is a low milage facelifted 00' and is a "tru-beast" already with Kelleners sport cams, slightly reworked heads, K&N CAI, Kelleners exhaust, Kelleners ECU software, Kelleners Short-shift, Porsche GT3 brakes on 380mm discs front and 322 rear, ACS electronic adjustable suspension, Hartge Nova 20" wheels, it's dynoed to 456 hp / 558 Nm "as is" today".

So that will be fun to see
Source.

For m5board.com report on the new M5:

http://www.m5board.com/articles.php?id=34

[howler]

Thank you for your honesty regarding this unfortunate situation.
We hope someday Daniel will return to this fine forum.

[bmwusa]

Wow everybody is supercharging nowadays, I cannot wait for AA to come out with there kit, Josh

[jordantii]

This is a tough subject. On one hand I think it is a bit strange to start another board when he started his business here. On the other hand Daniel is running a business and he must have felt the need to expand thus the creation of the new board.

He should have come to you about it first IMO. His board will not have any comercial competition unlike this board.

You have the original so not to worry.

Best,

Jordan

[Gustav]

Also decline to mention registrations as m5board.net etc. does not fill you with trust and confidence...

[MEnthusiast]

A very good friend and business associate once told me: "it not only has got to be right- it has to look right".

Thank's Gustav for putting out the facts. IMHO Daniel could have first contacted you and then worked out website names that were acceptable. He could have even perhaps made an announcement here and had great cooperation. But he made his choice. I hope things work themselves out. I usually enjoyed Daniel's posts.

[jos]

I love the looks of that soon to be supercharged M5. Those wheels etc. all look so stunning. I still have some pictures from that report saved on my computer. I'd love to hear how things work out for 540is.

[vndkshn]

Originally Posted by MEnthusiast

A very good friend and business associate once told me: "it not only has got to be right- it has to look right".

Excellent point Jerry, and my thoughts as well. Had Daniel handed it right, and chosen to take part as a partner of Gustav's, it would have worked out much better. I for one put BeastPower on my "do not buy from" list. Only because of the way it was handled. Just not sure I can trust a company that will do an end around on the forum that helped fuel your business.