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Old 24th June 2007, 23:34   #1
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Laser Pro Park (LPP) Group Buy (Laser Jammer)

Hello all.

First off, please don't shoot me if I shouldn't be posting this here. I have attempted to read through the rules on Group Buys and I can't make any sense of the little information I could find.

So, I'm going to post some information below for the benefit of other members.

In case you haven't heard, the Laser Pro Park (LPP) is now being sold stateside. There is now an official U.S. Importer (Laser Protector USA). I have a friend who works for the only current Authorized U.S. Reseller - a company called Direct Motorsport International (site is dmi-sport.com).

Anyway, the deal is that DMI is offering this forum a Group Buy opportunity to purchase the Single Head LPP Kit for $450 (MSRP is $550) and Dual Head LPP Kits for $720 (MSRP is $900).

If you don't know what the LPP is, it's a laser jammer (similar to Blinder, etc.). The diff is that LPP is sold and marketed as a parking sensor. Apparently, it works well at that too.

If you need more info please checkout the postings on YouTube (search for laser pro park or LPP) or visit laserproparkusa.com (forum).

Here are some of the advantages of the LPP over other jammers:

- Marketed as a parking sensor not a jammer. the manual says it's a parking sensor which "may interfere with other laser based devices" Nice to have that in your glovebox in case Johnny Law decides to give you a hard time about it.
- Laser diodes, not cheaper infra-red LEDs like Blinder, K40, and Escort products. The LPP uses the same type of lasers used by the cops' LIDAR guns.
- U.S. warranty and tech support
- Only jammer which displays NO jamming codes on cop LIDAR


Sorry for making this my first post. I feel like that is kinda lame, but I've been lurking on this board for a long time. I thought this was a good enough deal to pass along to folks, in case anyone is interested.

To get in on the deal, goto DMI's site and at checkout enter coupon code M5GB.

Note: this offer expires July 9. This is a one time offer.

I also know that LP USA is looking for installers and other resellers, so if you know anyone who might be interested in becoming a dealer you should have them contact LP USA. I think they still don't have a site up, but you could have them talk to the guys at DMI until LP's new site is active.

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advantages of dual head over single head?? is it worth the premium? or is one for front and the other for rear coverage?

i read a review from a motorcycle magazine this winter, tests done in england, i believe. the bike was "invisible" to the detector.
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advantages of dual head over single head?? is it worth the premium? or is one for front and the other for rear coverage?

i read a review from a motorcycle magazine this winter, tests done in england, i believe. the bike was "invisible" to the detector.
Gherardini,

Here's what I tell people about single versus dual heads. First off, I'm presuming we're talking about a car. I'll get to motorcycles in a moment.

1. Do you really want to use the "parking sensor" functions? If so, then you should have two heads front and/or rear.

2. If your budget is an issue, you can of course always add more heads later on.

3. The front is nearly always more important in terms of "protection." How wide is the front of your car? If it's the size of a Mini for example, then one head is plenty - subject to my caveat in point # 4 below. 3 series - you could get away with just one as well, but again read on.

4. In terms of jamming interference, you've heard the saying, "2 heads are better than 1?" Well, I hate to use that cliche, but it is true. Here's why: in heavy traffic situations, it is not uncommon for a LEO to target your vehicle while it is partially obscured by the car in front of it. If you only have one head, then of course it's going to be a greater challenge for that single head in those situations.

Likewise, even if you're not in heavy traffic an astute LEO may target the far edge of one of your headlights. Depending on how wide your car is and how close you are to the LEO (closer = smaller LIDAR beam), he/she may be able to get a reading.

Ideally, you want to have two heads positioned such that you can accomplish two important things: a) protect your front plate if you have one - the most reflective thing on your car (by design); and b) divide your car into three sections, with as close to equal protection for each section as you can get. This is typically solved by positioning the heads 18-24" apart, front and center.

Another tip, all LPP heads are now marked so that you know which side the lens is on. Depending on your configuration, you will want to take into consideration - in a dual head setup - how the heads are configured. Professional installers do this all the time, especially if you can find one who has a LIDAR gun in order to verify operation of the unit (rare, but a few have them).

Bottom line is the lens placement is the most critical element. If the lens cannot "see" a threat, then the device won't help you. That is the key regarding single versus dual heads.

In terms of rear protection, this is especially true. If you have never taken a picture of the rear of your car at night with a flash camera, then you have no idea how very reflective your tail lights are! That being said, rear protection is really an art. LEOs will almost always target the plate first (because it's easier - center mass shot and they know everyone has one there).

That being said, the vast majority of encounters are in the front so I would focus there first.

Now, in terms of motorcycles boy you are lucky. Because the profile of the bike is so small. One head front and back and you are golden. Just put it near the tail light / plate / headlight (typically the only place to put it anyway).

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I would love to see pictures of an install on the M5. It's a lot of money to spend when there are doubts...
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Install Pics

I don't have pics of an install on an M5 per se, but I do have some from an E60....

Brief descriptions....

Single head mounted under Euro plate.

Mute switch and power kill mounted in glovebox.

I believe that's the LED and Speaker custom mounted in air duct (this was a custom tweak by the installer).

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I don't have pics of an install on an M5 per se, but I do have some from an E60....

Brief descriptions....

Single head mounted under Euro plate.

Mute switch and power kill mounted in glovebox.

I believe that's the LED and Speaker custom mounted in air duct (this was a custom tweak by the installer).

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Awkward place for the kill switch. If I got pinched, my sphincter would tighten up and my heart would be racing too fast for me to reach over, open the glovebox and kill the jammer.
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I'll post some more pics of other installs and kit pics here.

Note that the product comes with a manual which clearly says "Parking Sensor." The only mention of its other capabilities is vague. This is ideal for people who live in not-so-kind states in terms of laws on countermeasures.

From the stand point of the LPP manufacturer, dealers, and distributors, it is marketed and sold as a "parking sensor." What an owner chooses to do with it is their business. And the fact is that it is designed to attempt to counteract things that interfere with it... i.e., it's not interfering with say - a police laser gun for example... rather, the police laser gun is interfering with the parking sensor. After all, which is aimed at the other? I think it's clear who is the aggressor... not the LPP.

Anyway... more pics...

Some notes....

Orange car is a Merc... yes, the Bugatti is a Veytron.... last pic look VERY hard left of the vertical gray piece. there is an LPP head hidden there.


Another note: I strongly recommend you do NOT recess the heads as shown here. Reason being it will reduce your performance. If stealth is a priority, then by all means do so, but plan on using extra heads if you also want optimum protection. The main issue is that if you block the lens' view then you are reducing the ability of each laser sensor to detect threats.

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Awkward place for the kill switch. If I got pinched, my sphincter would tighten up and my heart would be racing too fast for me to reach over, open the glovebox and kill the jammer.
Tell me about it! I don't know what possessed that person to request that. I thought it was quite peculiar myself. Now, the kill switch yes. In fact, on my car (5er) I did the same thing.

I have not posted pics of my car because I'm currently modifying my install. I'm replacing my standard power switch with a rocker style which will act as a kill switch for all my countermeasures - front and rear LPP dual setups plus my V1.

I'm also currently toying with moving the LEDs around. If anyone is interested, I'll post when I'm done. Right now you'd just be looking at my disassembled dashboard.

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Is the grp buy only upto July 9th?
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Is the grp buy only upto July 9th?
Yes. The store code mentioned in the original post expires at midnight July 9 (i.e. 1 minute before July 10).

DMI is also considering boosting their retail prices after that date. They've been getting some flack from LP USA - the distributor - about setting their prices too low. Who knows tho. I dunno for sure what will happen on that front.

I do know the GB is short lived. You could always contact LP USA afterwards if that's an issue. I heard their website was supposed to be up last week, but there was some issue with their Web design or hosting company and now it's supposed to be up this weekend. The addr is www.laserprotectorusa.com.

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