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Shadowman & Discovery Automotives Front Spoiler - Group Buy

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#1 · (Edited)
Discovery Automotive announces their first group buy for the M5board members.

After the completion of Achtungs Beast and the subsequent post about it both Shadowman and I have received numerous inquires from board members regarding the Front Spoiler. Since there was nothing on the market for the E39 that matched the quality, style, and the fit that we were looking for we simply designed and fabricated our own. Originally this piece was intended as a one of a kind piece for its owner however, in response to inquires and request, as well as with Achtungs blessing we have decided to make a small production run and offer them in a group buy.

The Spoiler will be offered in two versions;

Full carbon fiber with 2 brushed aluminum struts.
The paint able smooth mat finished version also with 2 brushed aluminum struts.

Installation could not be easier. You simply slip it on over your existing bumper and it snaps into place. Two button head screws hold the side’s down under extreme conditions; the struts are pre mounted and require a single screw each. All hardware and step by step instructions will be included with each piece. The total install time including clean up is under 30 minutes.

Technical information;

UV protection has been embedded into the carbon fiber process
To reduce the chance of chipping from road ware there is no clear coat during the normal detailing process we suggest adding a layer of wax to bring out the shine.
Ground clearance remains virtually the same since the piece does not point down.

Here is a picture of the design process from the front



Here you can see how the corners are rolled



And now how it looks in Carbon Fiber



Finally the finished piece before the struts go on



The original drawing of the struts



And pictures of it mounted on Achtungs beast with the struts








We have all been told that it is impolite for people to stare however after adding this front spoiler you may have to get used to it. As Achtung already shared do not buy this spoiler if you don’t like people staring at your car.

Thank You to everyone who sent PM's or email inquiring for more information, it's because of your requests we are sharing this piece with the board.

Pricing

The full Carbon Fiber Front Spoiler complete with struts hardware and instructions $1495.00

The Carbon Fiber smooth surface ready for paint complete with struts hardware and instructions $1295.00

For more information please contact me directly or visit our site.

I look forward to your comments.

Sean aka "SuperCharged"
 
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#3 ·
Incredible work guys...really should be in a museum! Unfortunately, I've got steep approach and departure angles on my driveway and I'd hate to whack a trick spoiler like that. Would it be possible to get a direct side view to get an idea of how much farther the lip sticks out over stock?

Thanks.
 
#4 ·
SWEEEET!!!!
Thank You Buymenow00!! Answering your question means I am no longer a Junior Member and have ascended to the next level HAHAHA. The front spoiler extends forward about 2" over the stock spoiler. Clearance from the ground on a flat surface is about the same as stock. IMO you would need a really steep incline to have contact. I haven't had an issue yet and it still clears the cement parking bumpers found in many lots. I will get you some side view pics shortly.
Take Care,
ACHTUNG
 
#5 ·
i like the lip.... but the struts are ugly.... is there a way you can put them more to the side.... Kinda like the AC schnitzer?
 
#6 ·
As always I have enjoyed all of your comments regarding the project; thank you.

Here are a couple comments and replies.

First of all as it was shared by Achtung, the underside clearances are as OEM however if you were to look at the vehicle from the side or straight down (as if standing in front of the bumper the spoiler lip extends approx. 1 1/2 -2" equal to the leading edge of the OEM bumper. Clearances should not be a concern (disclaimer...... unless the vehicles intended use is off road and or roack crawling). One such example of the extension is located in the "Shazaaam My Rider got pimped by the Shadowman". In this thread you will see a front end picture of Bloch's M5 and Achtungs M5 side by side.

As for the struts, these were the first set installed and as Achtung shared I was not able to install them myself because the car had already left the state therefore Achtung did the honors and a wonderful job I might add.

However since this time I have installed a set as such the subsequent strut shafts are being machined slightly longer so that less thread is visible as well as a minor addition to the center of the shaft portion....... let's call it a hexed area which is depicted in the original cad drawing that I will ask SuperCharged to post.

With regards to pictures of the underside and the back side of the spoiler, they will be posted soon. I am having them being taken at this time. If you were to turn the car over the spoiler’s underside edge wraps under the bumper and then follows the contour of the bumper and aligns along the edge of the removable under body panels. A very clean finished look that allows for full access to all OEM panels without removing the spoiler.

There was also the question as too whether side-flippers can be installed with this spoiler, absolutely.

Lastly, with the spoiler the struts can be pre-mounted by us or if one prefers they can be left off or placed in the location and at the angle one would like. These are another one of those subjective items. In the case of Achtungs M5 I furnished patterns along with the struts however because of his radar senor locations he elected to change the patterned location slightly.

I realize that the following is a somewhat self serving comment however this spoiler is one of those pieces that looks stunning in the photos however up close and personal it completes the front of the car without appearing to be an after thought.......... add to this the fact that is fits perfectly and is extremely easy to install.

Have fun guys.

Shadowman
 
#7 ·
cali6869 said:
i like the lip.... but the struts are ugly.... is there a way you can put them more to the side.... Kinda like the AC schnitzer?
Thank you for the nice words regarding the spoiler, as for the struts and them being ugly............ a prefer that they are simply not your cup-o-tea. They are in fact very nice but style whether wheels, vehicle color etc. will always be a subjective issue.

For the one we ship for your car I will either not include the struts or if you prefer they can be located in a position similar to the AC Schnitzer, in fact we considered it however those used on the AC Schnitzer M3 are mounted to a bumper group that abeit similar is much different in style than the M5. This could make your very unique.

Thank you again.

Enjoy your car.

Shadowman
 
#8 ·
shadowman said:
Thank you for the nice words regarding the spoiler, as for the struts and them being ugly............ a prefer that they are simply not your cup-o-tea. They are in fact very nice but style whether wheels, vehicle color etc. will always be a subjective issue.

For the one we ship for your car I will either not include the struts or if you prefer they can be located in a position similar to the AC Schnitzer, in fact we considered it however those used on the AC Schnitzer M3 are mounted to a bumper group that abeit similar is much different in style than the M5. This could make your very unique.

Thank you again.

Enjoy your car.

Shadowman
Shadowman,
I apologize for my statement. Didnt mean to sound to harsh or insulting.
Yea not being my cup of tea its more appropiate.
Can teh lip be purchased without the struts? or are the struts a main part to holding the lip in place.
Lip looks great.
 
#9 ·
Shadowman, is there a way we can get more pics... but from far away?
Just want to see how the front lips flow with tthe side skirts.
thanks
 
#12 ·
cali6869 said:
Shadowman, is there a way we can get more pics... but from far away?
Just want to see how the front lips flow with tthe side skirts.
thanks
I think I understand your question.

The spoiler does not extend beyond the the side of the OEM bumper. In fact the side of the spoiler conforms to the side of the bumper and then has a return flange that neatly conforms to the edge of the wheel opening. I will see if I can have SuperCharged post a picture. The one I have is not great but it will clearly show what I am sharing.

Shadowman
 
#14 · (Edited)
Like this?



This picture shows how the spoiler was designed to wrap around the back
side of the bumper with a fixed carbon fiber flange integrated into
fabrication of the spoiler. In this picture the pieces have been set in
place loosely to show how the pieces come together however once snugged
the bumper is drawn into the radiused pocked shown in this picture.


 
#15 ·
cali6869 said:
Shadowman,
I apologize for my statement. Didnt mean to sound to harsh or insulting.
Yea not being my cup of tea its more appropiate.
Can teh lip be purchased without the struts? or are the struts a main part to holding the lip in place.
Lip looks great.
No worries my friend, I have rather thick skin, in fact I truly did not take offense to it at all. The fact that you took the time to look at the project and made comments is very much appreciated.

I too find myself from time to time looking at various peoples projects sometimes seeing things that I may have done differently however it is truly to each his or her own when it comes to personalizing one's car.

Our cars, the canvass is for many is a reflection of so many different things, who were are, what we do, what we want, where we have been, etc. As such today I attempt to look at other's projects as just that, other peoples projects and find true satisfaction and appreciate what they have accomplished.

With regards to whether the spoiler can be installed without the struts, absolutely. The struts were not designed as a securing or supporting memeber for the spoiler. As I stated earlier, we will not pre-drill the strut retaining holes or furnish you with struts.

Take care.

Shadowman
 
#17 ·
i wish i had alot of money!

this way i wouldnt have to use my nebulizer everytime i watch this thread!

Great work Bill!
 
#19 · (Edited)
apk1013 said:
i like the way that they look but I don't if i can spend the money. i think i would rather buy headers. anyways, great work, it looks great.
Thank you for the comments.

If you were to call me and ask which I would suggest.......headers or carbon fiber spoiler..... there is no doubt that I would without hesitation encourage you to purchase the headers. As I have shared many times, they are the single biggest "bang for the buck" that you or anyone else can do with their M5.............significant performance gains and wonderful sound.

Enjoy you car.

Thanks again.

Shadowman
 
#20 ·
shadowman said:
As I have shared many times, they are the single biggest "bang for the buck" that you or anyone else can do with their M5.............significant performance gains and wonderful sound.
This is not good news for Ahmed! You listening ? :7:
 
#22 ·
shadowman said:
There was also the question as too whether side-flippers can be installed with this spoiler, absolutely.


Shadowman
Hey Shadowman,

Tell me more. mmmmmm

I guess I'm used to seeing the ACS front flippers. You went to all the trouble of doing a fantastic C/F spolier and you only extended the front two side an inch?

It could just be the pics, but it appears that most of the C/F just covers whats already there. Then you stepped down for the interesting bit but it is small.

I guess its conservative, but hey, how conservative is C/F and alloy struts. :7: Its not like no one will notice them. hiha

Is there anyway, these can be incorporated with the ACS side flippers?

I'll email you a pic of a sweet M3 one that has miny struts. They would also look cool on your spoiler. Take a look at the strut placement, outside on the M3.

Regards MJ. :cheers:
 
#23 ·
MIB said:
Hey Shadowman,

Tell me more. mmmmmm

I guess I'm used to seeing the ACS front flippers. You went to all the trouble of doing a fantastic C/F spolier and you only extended the front two side an inch?

It could just be the pics, but it appears that most of the C/F just covers whats already there. Then you stepped down for the interesting bit but it is small.

I guess its conservative, but hey, how conservative is C/F and alloy struts. :7: Its not like no one will notice them. hiha

Is there anyway, these can be incorporated with the ACS side flippers?

I'll email you a pic of a sweet M3 one that has miny struts. They would also look cool on your spoiler. Take a look at the strut placement, outside on the M3.

Regards MJ. :cheers:
Thank you for the comments........ First of all because the carbon fiber spoiler wraps the existing lower bumber pieces the visual impact is deceiving unless you look at two cars side by side.....in much the same we photographed Bloch's and Achtungs togther. The goal was to incorporate a piece rather than have it appear to be hung in place.

With regards to the flippers from AC, yes they can be used and will make the appearance that much more dramatic however, as easy as it would have been to copy the AC part for this purpose I remain respectful of the time and energy they put into developing it as such would not consider it.

Lastly, I am anxiously awaiting the photos of your car, it sounds wonderful.

Chat soon.

Shadowman
 
#24 ·
apk1013 said:
i like the way that they look but I don't if i can spend the money. i think i would rather buy headers. anyways, great work, it looks great.
Are you talking about Supersprint Headers? Or another brand in particular?

Thanks, R
 
#25 ·
Randy

First of all I’ve always loved your handle “Ronin M5” not to sure how many people understand what it means but I do :)

To answer you question if you look back over our projects you will see we prefer the SuperSprint headers/exhaust combo. There are many great options in the market place but given the choice this is what Shadowman uses on our projects.

And lastly I got the pictures of your car.. thank you for sharing I’ll reply to your email shortly and we can continue the headers/exhaust conversation.

Sean
 
#26 ·
If you were to call me and ask which I would suggest.......headers or carbon fiber spoiler..... there is no doubt that I would without hesitation encourage you to purchase the headers. As I have shared many times, they are the single biggest "bang for the buck" that you or anyone else can do with their M5.............significant performance gains and wonderful sound.

Enjoy you car.

Thanks again.

Thanks for giving me your honest opinion. I am going to do the headers, but if I ever do ground effects, I will definitely come to you.

Thanks,
Andrew
 
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