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Old 14th July 2012, 01:43   #191
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One thing to note, did you put teflon tape on the sensor, you are not suppose to.

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One thing to note, did you put teflon tape on the sensor, you are not suppose to.

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Raza,

I did use teflon tape as specified in the instructions you posted on page 18 of this thread. If that is not recommended, please edit those instructions so that others do not make the same mistake.

However, I do not believe the teflon tape would cause any issues in my case because I grounded the sensor body itself (near the 11/16in nut) rather than grounding the aluminum fitting as Jamie suggested. In the wiring instructions provided by SPAL I see where it specifies not to use teflon tape, but I think that is because they are assuming the sensor housing is grounded and the teflon tape could inhibit the electrical connection between the sensor body and the sensor housing. Please let me know if you think otherwise.

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Old 14th July 2012, 23:05   #193
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I did use teflon tape as specified in the instructions you posted on page 18 of this thread. If that is not recommended, please edit those instructions so that others do not make the same mistake.

However, I do not believe the teflon tape would cause any issues in my case because I grounded the sensor body itself (near the 11/16in nut) rather than grounding the aluminum fitting as Jamie suggested. In the wiring instructions provided by SPAL I see where it specifies not to use teflon tape, but I think that is because they are assuming the sensor housing is grounded and the teflon tape could inhibit the electrical connection between the sensor body and the sensor housing. Please let me know if you think otherwise.

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Kevin,

You are right about the teflon, so we can ignore that as an issue.

You may have a bad Ktemp gauge or a bad spal thermostat. Lets wait a bit and see if others report the same results with their Ktemp.

Can you give me a rough indication of how long the fan stays on? For a 2 degree temp drop it would only be on for half a minute, if that. Which is not normal.

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Kevin,

You are right about the teflon, so we can ignore that as an issue.

You may have a bad Ktemp gauge or a bad spal thermostat. Lets wait a bit and see if others report the same results with their Ktemp.

Can you give me a rough indication of how long the fan stays on? For a 2 degree temp drop it would only be on for half a minute, if that. Which is not normal.

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The fan runs for roughly 15 seconds every 4 minutes at 75F ambient with the hood open. Let me know if you need additional information.

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The fan runs for roughly 15 seconds every 4 minutes at 75F ambient with the hood open. Let me know if you need additional information.

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That is not normal at all. Let's see if anyone else has this issue. I'm leanining towered bad temp sensor. The ONLY other thing I can think of is the ignition source may not be a constant ignition.

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That is not normal at all. Let's see if anyone else has this issue. I'm leanining towered bad temp sensor. The ONLY other thing I can think of is the ignition source may not be a constant ignition.

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Could be a flaky sensor ground as well...
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Fan Install Instruction Edits

Stock assembly removal

1) Drain radiator
a. Drain plug is located on the bottom left of the radiator
b. Turn the plug counterclockwise and then pull down to release fluid

2) Remove upper radiator hose
a. With a flat head screwdriver, flip up the retaining clip and remove the hose
b. Remove the engine side of the hose by undoing the hose clamp
c. Remove hose

3) Remove stock engine fan
a. These threads are reverse threads
i. Clockwise rotation = removal
b. Will need BMW retaining tool to hold the fan clutch

4) Remove reservoir tank hose
a. Use a flat head screwdriver to remove the hose clamp, pull off hose

5) Begin removal of fan shroud
a. Remove 2 10mm bolts on each corner of the radiator
b. Pry off heads on the 3 plastic rivets
c. Undo both hoses connected to the reservoir
d. Remove shroud and reservoir
i. Save the reservoir as it will be reused
ii. Remove the “black box” on the bottom right of the shroud, this will be reused

6) Remove lower radiator hose
a. With a flat head screwdriver, flip up the retaining clip and remove the hose
b. Unplug the temperature sensor
c. Remove the engine side of the hose by undoing the hose clamp
d. Remove hose

7) Remove radiator
a. By now the radiator should be loose, gradually pull up on it and it will come out.
i. Be careful not to ruin the fins on the radiator during this process
ii. Also note the 2 rubber bases on each side of the radiator, these sometimes fall off


Radiator and shroud installation

1) Drilling mounting holes on shroud
a. Notice the 4 5/16ths holes on the radiator, 2 on the top 2 on the bottom.
b. Lay the shroud ontop of the radiator and mark these holes on the shroud.
c. Use a 5/16 drill and drill 4 holes in the shroud

2) Shroud assembly
a. After holes have been drilled, insert the 4 push rivets supplied to secure the shroud to the radiator
b. Install the black box using zip ties in the same location and orientation as it was on the stock shroud
c. Install the fan using 4 M6 button head bolts with 1 locking washer on each bolt

3) Radiator/shroud installation
a. Install the assembly as you had removed it
i. Make sure the 2 rubber bases are on the radiator and sit in the notches on the car side
b. Secure the radiator at the top using the 2 securing brackets and 2 10mm bolts

4) Lower radiator Temp sensor installation
a. Cut a 1” section in the center of the lower radiator hose and install the aluminum fitting
b. Install the temperature sensor into the fitting, do not use teflon tape
c. Clamp the fitting using the supplied hose clamps
d. Install the hose onto the engine and radiator
e. Install upper radiator hose at this time as well
5) Reservoir installation
a. Secure reservoir in the stock location
i. Secure it using 2 m6 button head bolts
b. Plug in the level sensor on the bottom of the reservoir

Wiring installation

1) Locate Spal instructions in the spal box

a. Mount the spal relay in desired location. Mounting location is not critical, it Is recommended it be in a safe location away from moving parts and any disturbance.

b. Route the Yellow wire from the relay to the driver side cylinder head where the power terminal is located
i. Utilize the fuse setup supplied by spal and the yellow terminal
ii. The wiring orientation should be
1. Yellow terminal -> fuse relay with 30 amp fuse -> butt connector -> yellow wiring
2. The yellow terminal should be plugged into the battery terminal
3. It may be necessary to shorten the wiring
a. Assure you have enough slack in the wiring

c. Routing the red wire to the fan shroud
i. Route the wire as desired to the electric fan
ii. Source the fan plug from the spal wiring box
1. Lengthen the red wiring as desired and connect it to the fan harness using the butt connector
iii. Ground the electric fan harness to the engine ground under the passenger side frame rail.
1. View image for exact location

d. Routing orange wire
i. This wire is for ignition
1. Route this wire to the ECU box
2. The ecu box is located underneath the passenger interior intake
3. You will need to remove the ecu cover
ii. Once you are in the ecu box, tap into the red and white wire on the backside of the ecu box. This is a +12 ignition wire. double check this with your multimeter.
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e. Routing grey wire
i. This wire is for the thermostat to trigger the fan
1. Route the wire to the thermostat in the radiator hose
a. After you have shortened the wire to the desired length, connect the blue connector to it and secure it to the thermostat.
2. Utilize the extra wire provided and ground the thermostat body or the hose adapter (slip the a stripped portion of the wire in between the housing body and rubber hose under a hose clamp) to an available engine ground. (there are a few, pick one that is convenient, I used the engine ground strap on the lower passenger side frame rail). Don't connect the grey wire directly to the ground wire as this will make the fan run all the time. The thermostat works by grounding the circuit when it reaches the desired temperature, so the body of the thermostat or the thermostat adapter must be grounded.
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so I ran a temperature test and my car heated up to 93 celcius (199 F) but fan still did not kick in. Where should I start looking for a problem?
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