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I went out and bought the Umnitza Depa headlights (mentioned above) and send them out to Caesar of Lightwerks in Jersey to add his personal touch to them. He swapped out the dull stock projectors and replaced them with TFX projectors including a bi-xenon setup (like most newer BMWs have). The results can be seen at the link below (both before and after shots).
I went out and bought the Umnitza Depa headlights (mentioned above) and send them out to Caesar of Lightwerks in Jersey to add his personal touch to them. He swapped out the dull stock projectors and replaced them with TFX projectors including a bi-xenon setup (like most newer BMWs have). The results can be seen at the link below (both before and after shots).
I look forward to getting it back on my car and will send more updates but I truly think this is the best setup around.
YEAAHH!!!! I was gonna do exactly the same thing and was hoping someone would do it first so that I could have a precise idea of the results! You da man!
What was the final cost of the conversion (you can PM me if you prefer). Also, how do the bixenons work In addition to the reflector high-beams, or insted of?
We are more than happy to offer the Projector39 Hella Style lights with a projector retrofit of your choosing. It's not a problem, just labor.
We have several installers that are more than capable of doing this for you guys.
We'll talk it through, you tell us what you want, and we'll handle it.
We hired another skilled technician so now there is no need to go elsewhere.
I went out and bought the Umnitza Depa headlights (mentioned above) and send them out to Caesar of Lightwerks in Jersey to add his personal touch to them. He swapped out the dull stock projectors and replaced them with TFX projectors including a bi-xenon setup (like most newer BMWs have). The results can be seen at the link below (both before and after shots).
Forgive the ignorance, but how is this retrofit any better than 55 watt digital HID bulbs and ballasts in an OEM Hella clear corner headlight?
--Peter
The projector retrofit (in addition to these headlights in the OP) makes for better lighting. The Hellas remain unchanged since 2003, while the TSX ones are newer and better. They have a much sharper cutoff and focus light on the road much better. Of course, the Hellas are not crap by any means, but many of us don't find the idea of spending $1000+ for 7-year old technology very appealing.
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The projector retrofit (in addition to these headlight sin the OP) makes for better lighting. The Hellas remain unchanged since 2003, while the TSX ones are newer and better. They have a much sharper cutoff and focus light on the road much better. Of course, the Hellas are not crap by any means, but many of us don't find the idea of spending $1000+ for 7-year old technology very appealing.
Here's a simple breakdown for product costs and quality.
Projector39 Hella-type from Umnitza: $500-575
average quality output and pattern projectors
Best in class Orion V2 angel eyes
Medium to Best in Class HID/Xenon quality
Best in Class workmanship Customizable
Hella OE Xenon from Umnitza - $1019
better than average output and pattern projectors
average angel eyes (oe yellow) can be upgrade for more using Predator ICE
Best in Class quality HID
Best in Class Build Quality not customizable
Projector39 standard DEPO type $250-500
Average quality output and pattern projectors
Best in class Orion v2 angel eyes
Medium to best in class HID/Xenon quality
Average build quality - poor DEPO warranty coverage for headlights customizable
Only the Projector39 DEPO and HELLA type can be customized. The benefit of customizing the Hella type is you retain the quality and look of the original HELLA OE xenon, but have the options of Orion v2 angel eyes and having the ability to put a different projector into the housing.
We charge $250 for the labor to do this, 50% of what others would charge you. Further, we have all the parts. All you have to do is provide the projectors themselves or tell us to source them for you (TSX, TFX, FX35/45, TL, ETC).
You get a beam pattern that is more in line with a modern projector with the OE looks and quality of the Hella.
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Given that I already shelled out the $1k for the 7-year old technology and for 55 watt hid bulbs/ballasts and Predator Ice AE, all well over a year ago, I think I'll stick with what I got. Sounds like this would have been the way to go, however, had I not already invested in the OEM Hellas!
Given that I already shelled out the $1k for the 7-year old technology and for 55 watt hid bulbs/ballasts and Predator Ice AE, all well over a year ago, I think I'll stick with what I got. Sounds like this would have been the way to go, however, had I not already invested in the OEM Hellas!
--Peter
new stuff came out after your order, so you have nothing to be unhappy about and you should be happy you still have the best quality
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