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Old 4th October 2007, 19:18   #1
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The Official Winter Tire thread ... all E39 based winter tire questions go here ...

as another winter approaches here we go again ...

So, first off let's learn or relearn the facts about winter tires

There are basically three different types of winter tires so, we'll start there

#1.) Performance Winter

You want enhanced dry road handling from your winter tires and are willing to trade some snow and ice traction to get it.

Meeting severe snow service requirements and branded with the "Snowflake-on-the-Mountain" symbol, these low profile, H- or V-speed rated tires are designed to suit winter driving on European highways. They are available in many of the low profile sizes used as Original Equipment on sporty imported and domestic cars. Due to their unique designs these tires must be installed in sets of four.

#2.) Studless Ice and Snow

You want to maximize snow and ice traction from your winter tires without the inconvenience of using winter tire studs.

Meeting severe snow service requirements and branded with the "Snowflake-on-the-Mountain" symbol, these Q-speed rated tires feature the latest in tread compound technology to provide winter traction without the inconvenience of tire studs. They trade a little handling for excellent ice and snow traction. Due to their unique tread compounds these tires must be installed in sets of four.

#3.)Studdable Winter

You want the traditional security of studded winter tires for enhanced traction on ice.

Meeting severe snow service requirements and branded with the "Snowflake-on-the-Mountain" symbol, these non-, Q-, S-, or T-speed rated tires feature traditional snow tire tread compounds and studdable tread designs for good snow and ice traction. Due to their unique designs these tires must be used in sets of four. Use of studded tires is often prohibited or restricted. Check with local authorities to confirm legality.

With your new found winter tire knowledge we can now discuss winter tire recommendations.

The E39 M5 should really be shod with performance winter tires so, I strongly recommend the Blizzak product line if you live in an area with a large amount of snow and ice. If you geographic region does see snow and ice but to a lesser extent the Dunlop Winter Sport M3D and Winter Sport M3 are great choices as well.

I also recommend that all 4 tires be of the same size front and rear since a narrower tire will perform better in the snow than a wider version.

here are a few wheel and tire package options which I endorse that will work on your E39 M5.

#1a.)
235/45R17 Bridgestone BLIZZAK LM25
17X8 Sport Edition KM11
$1140.00 plus shipping
the wheel fits correctly, has a durable finish and is relatively easy to clean so, it would make a perfect winter wheel.



#1b.) another good wheel coice, which is nothing more than a different style is the ASA KV5. Utilizing this wheel would not alter the package price so again it would be $1140.00


#2.) want to maintain the 18" wheel look and still drive in the winter?
245/40R18 Bridgestone BLIZZAK LM25
18X8.5 Borbet Type TS
$1480.00 plus shipping


#3.)
The Dunlop Winter SPort M3 is available in the original sizes for your E39 M5's OE wheels if you choose to just swap the tires on your wheels.
245/40R18
275/35R18
$870.00 plus shipping

These are just some suggestions and not the only options. Since, there is no "1 size fits all" solution or if you have a specific idea of what you would like and need a little help to find out what would work best just let me know with a post in this thread. I will check daily for questions.

If you prefer to shop online use this link

1 last note: If you choose to garage the M5 and have a second car or SUV I can help you outfit that as well.




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Hi Luke,

The text of your posting mentions the E60 a bunch of times. Do those same packages that you listed also fit the E39? If not, what do you recommend?

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Hi Luke,

The text of your posting mentions the E60 a bunch of times. Do those same packages that you listed also fit the E39? If not, what do you recommend?

Doug

it was only 2 times ... but it was a typo ... correcting as we speak, and on another note do you need to store your summer tires while the winters are on and vice versa

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Ok, fair enough, twice

Thanks Luke!

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Will these wheels/tires fit the e39M5?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=220156065903

From what I can tell the center bore is too small (have it opened up is an option)

How about the overall diameter and offset fitment? They came off of a 2002 330i.

The only reason I'm considering is the local pickup only thing, they may go for less because of it, and I'm reasonably local.

Thanks for any info!

Oh, on a similer note, will 16" rims fit M5's? Thanks!

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sorry, but E46 wheels have to high an offset for an E39 and no 16's will not fit
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Luke,

I searched the Tire Rack site and did not find any head to head testing on the Blizzak LM 25's vs. the dunlop Wintersport M3's. Which has better ice traction, and which has the more sporting feel?

When do we get to see the test results on the Blizzak WS-60's? Are they as sloppy a ride as the old Revo-1's? (I have the Revo's on my Wife's WRX........great grip, but not so sporting)

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The Blizzak product is better on the slick stuff but, the Dunlop is marginally better in the dry and wet ....

One of the main improvements of the new WS60 is the huge reduction in the amount of squishyness (is that a word??) in the tires tread elements
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This is a put it back on the first page post ...
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I had the pirelli snows on the stock rims 235 front 265 rear pretty good made it to lake tahoe in little bit of snow
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