In reading about the funny ownership of this car, all of it admittedly hearsay, it would seem to be a bit of possible fraud to avoid titling and registration fees if the "owner" is not actually the "dealer"... Here in California when a car is sold it must be titled within a certain number of days.... Perhaps the facts are not known, or laws are different in other states...
First of all, I don’t know what makes anyone think this is anyone’s business but let me clarify this situation from the horse’s mouth. No one in their right mind would commit fraud on a car there is only one of in the state of New York and in excess value of over a million dollars. I feel greatly disrespected that you would even imply that. The blue Koenigsegg was owned by Universal Auto sports. The car was crashed, we didn’t think the damage was great in the beginning, after adding up the expenses the insurance company quickly totaled it. Shortly after we received the black CCX-R and have another black CCX on order.fficeffice" />
First of all, I don’t know what makes anyone think this is anyone’s business but let me clarify this situation from the horse’s mouth. No one in their right mind would commit fraud on a car there is only one of in the state of New York and in excess value of over a million dollars. I feel greatly disrespected that you would even imply that. The blue Koenigsegg was owned by Universal Auto sports. The car was crashed, we didn’t think the damage was great in the beginning, after adding up the expenses the insurance company quickly totaled it. Shortly after we received the black CCX-R and have another black CCX on order.fficeffice" />
Thanks for clarifying.
But previously you had said it was sold.
Perhaps it was "sold" in that somebody PAID you the money, but OWNED by UA in they they never titled it to the new owner... simple, right?
Here is what YOU (UA) posted in Ferrari Chat:
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To alleviate any confusion, the car is sold ...and it's for sale. As has already been mentioned in this thread, the car is privately owned. The owner keeps the car at Universal because his car collection doesn't consist of just a Koenigsegg. So his house is occupied with other cars - and the CCX stays with us. When he wants it, we're just a phone call away. The owner is a very generous person, and allows us to use his car to promote Koenigsegg and Universal Autosports. That's why we've been 'parading' the car around at various events all along the east coast for the last year. When we bring it to a car show, some people actually like to see it - go figure. We never considered that showing the car might actually offend people.
I suppose maybe you purchased in back from the owner a few minutes after the crash? Whatever. I am sure your insurance company knows all the facts, or all the different versions, and was OK with that...
This, my friend, is why multiple 'stories' are so hard to manage.
The person who purchased the car is a silent partner of Universal. This makes the Koenigsegg his personal vehicle as well as a marketing tool for his business. We have opened the United States markets eyes to Koenigsegg by using this car. People who would have never even thought the name Koenigsegg now make it their dream car. Customers drive from all over the east coast just to come take a glance at the car and snap a few photos. We are not here to stick out chest out and tell people “mines bigger”, we are here to place this beautiful Sweetish supercar in the hands of the rightful owners and create a brand that is to be followed. Why are you trying to bash our business? Have we ever done anything wrong to you? If so please call me right away so I can compensate you as best I can. We are a group of hard working guys who are enthusiast, not scammers. We also happen to have one of the most premier repair/race shops in the country with the most qualified staff. I'm sure you are some form of a litigator and get off on investigating and arguing what you think is the truth, but until you know the facts please don't make false assumptions. I would love to invite you to our shop to come meet our staff and see our facility. If you are a true automobile enthusiast you would be in heaven. I hope this clarifies what has gone on. If not I'm open for questions. Please do not hesitate to call. Thank you for your concern.fficeffice" />
Respectfully
Joe.Rossi
Phone-516-801-8201
Cell-631-714-9852
Email-Rossi@uasli.com
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No offense to you or the guys that are busting their humps....
I have a pet peeve with people who acquire a automobile dealers license and view that as simply a way to buy, own, drive, then sell cars without paying taxes. Usually you see it with curbstoners, but when the stakes get high I suppose an enthusiast might pick up a partnership to allow them to hold cars and avoid taxes. I am not saying this is illegal either. just my pet peeve, especially since it 'hides' this ownership to subsequent buyers.
I was simply saying a car can't be "sold" but still be "owned by the dealership"...From a legal perspective (and my understanding is based on CA law), if the business owns it then no $60,000+ use tax bill. If an individual (without a car dealer license) owns it, then tax was due.
Really nothing else needs to be said- who know what the real story was in terms of agreements, documents, funds, etc. This is between your principals and the State really.
Truthfully I don't care much about cars that I'll never drive! Looking and taking pictures doesn't really do it for me.
Great looking car- perhaps parked too close to that puddle!
No offense to you or the guys that are busting their humps....
I have a pet peeve with people who acquire a automobile dealers license and view that as simply a way to buy, own, drive, then sell cars without paying taxes. Usually you see it with curbstoners, but when the stakes get high I suppose an enthusiast might pick up a partnership to allow them to hold cars and avoid taxes. I am not saying this is illegal either. just my pet peeve, especially since it 'hides' this ownership to subsequent buyers.
I was simply saying a car can't be "sold" but still be "owned by the dealership"...From a legal perspective (and my understanding is based on CA law), if the business owns it then no $60,000+ use tax bill. If an individual (without a car dealer license) owns it, then tax was due.
Really nothing else needs to be said- who know what the real story was in terms of agreements, documents, funds, etc. This is between your principals and the State really.
Truthfully I don't care much about cars that I'll never drive! Looking and taking pictures doesn't really do it for me.
Great looking car- perhaps parked too close to that puddle!
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It’s obvious you have nothing better to do with your time than worry about your pet peeves. Maybe you should see a doctor for that. In order to get the car into the country taxes and duties were paid on the car upon the date of delivery. So you can sleep sound now. We buy, sell, and pay tax on exotic cars on a regular basis, this is our business. If you don't care much about cars you will never drive then why leave rude remarks and make false assumptions. I can see you are not a man of much character or talent. Good luck to you. Next time I won't park it so close to the puddle.fficeffice" />
It’s obvious you have nothing better to do with your time than worry about your pet peeves. Maybe you should see a doctor for that. In order to get the car into the country taxes and duties were paid on the car upon the date of delivery. So you can sleep sound now. We buy, sell, and pay tax on exotic cars on a regular basis, this is our business. If you don't care much about cars you will never drive then why leave rude remarks and make false assumptions. I can see you are not a man of much character or talent. Good luck to you. Next time I won't park it so close to the puddle.fficeffice" />
I imagine that most other Koenigsegg fans feel as I do, almost saddened by the loss of one of these great cars. It just serves as a reminder that every time we take our cars out, the safety of our trip is dependent on the choices made not only by us behind the wheel, but also the choices made by those with whom we share the road. Not everyone can be counted on to make good choices, so we must be ever vigilant of our driving environment. Crashes happen, and no car is immune! Number 43 was the most well exercised Koenigsegg certainly in the U.S., and possibly the world, having been taken over 200 mph countless times as part of World Class Driving's Xtreme Challenge. It is a great loss, but luckily no one was hurt.
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Whatever. I am sure your insurance company knows all the facts, or all the different versions, and was OK with that...
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