AMG ETR (Continued) & Minnesota M5 or M6's [Kleemann K2 (video)] - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

E60RSPCTR · 4th January 2007, 05:01

Fellas:

I love the commentary - and repect - going on in the post...

My hat goes off to the M's at high speeds (low speeds, the track, everything for that matter!) but check out this video (11.23 1/4 mile pass). I did some investigating and found out the car only had a K2 Package (ECU, Pulley, ahd Headers). This is about $6-7K in mods.

http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...2156f0372a.htm

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=165787

It is what made me get an E55 over the M5 (I wish to heck mine was this fast)...

Any of you from Minnesota? Would love to "get together" with a M5/M6 in the spring.

I hope you guys don't mind me "hanging-out" over here. Basically the same crew as the MB forums just different tastes...

Respect!

TK

dteray1 · 4th January 2007, 06:29

It's not hard to argue that you can achieve more power from a FI engine.
Turn up the boost up a notch and you got another 50 horses.
With the M5 it's just hard to tune since the engine is highly tuned.
The only way I can see happening without taking out the block is either NOS, camshaft, or some head work.
Anything but NOS will ruin your drivability.

E60RSPCTR · 4th January 2007, 15:47

I agree with your comments. My point to all this was it is often crazy to compare a "stock" car to one with modifications. I could find lots of Civic's, Neon's, WRX's, and STi's that could blow away E55's, M5's/M6's, Z06's (whatever) but guess what; they are not my cup of tea...

In terms of M mods, what is so undesirable about cam/head work (and how much $) to make them less driveable?

Late,

TK

MRichmond · 4th January 2007, 16:13

I am a Minnesota native, but no longer live there. In what part of the state are you? SchnelleM5, who frequents the E39 part of this forum, is in Owatonna and has organized some terrific scenic drives: TARGA MINNESOTA: PICS Of Our "Scuderia M5" In Action(41 Large Pics)

E60RSPCTR · 4th January 2007, 16:31

Thanks for the note! How could you leave such a wonderful place as Minnesota (LOL!)?

I live on the St. Paul side of the Twin Cities. I believe a co-worker has met SchnelleM5 (when he met him he had a 360 Spyder and a few Mazarati's). I belive Schnelle is in the medical profession...

Would be interested in talking cars/getting together.

TK

bonehead · 4th January 2007, 17:01

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Originally Posted by E60RSPCTR

Thanks for the note! How could you leave such a wonderful place as Minnesota (LOL!)?

I live on the St. Paul side of the Twin Cities. I believe a co-worker has met SchnelleM5 (when he met him he had a 360 Spyder and a few Mazarati's). I belive Schnelle is in the medical profession...

Would be interested in talking cars/getting together.

TK

He is an M.D. I didn't know Al was a F-car man.... Where has he been BTW??

E60RSPCTR · 4th January 2007, 17:06

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Originally Posted by bmwbonehead

He is an M.D. I didn't know Al was a F-car man.... Where has he been BTW??

Thanks, no, a co-worker of mine has the 360 and met him this fall at some event. I have never met him but heard of him through a co-worker.

Sorry for the confusion.

TK

bonehead · 4th January 2007, 17:10

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Originally Posted by E60RSPCTR

Thanks, no, a co-worker of mine has the 360 and met him this fall at some event. I have never met him but heard of him through a co-worker.

Sorry for the confusion.

TK

Ah. Thanks. I somehow didn't peg him as a Ferrari kinda guy. Class act. You should definitely try to meet up with him and his Minnesota crew.

dteray1 · 5th January 2007, 04:21

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Originally Posted by E60RSPCTR

I agree with your comments. My point to all this was it is often crazy to compare a "stock" car to one with modifications. I could find lots of Civic's, Neon's, WRX's, and STi's that could blow away E55's, M5's/M6's, Z06's (whatever) but guess what; they are not my cup of tea...

In terms of M mods, what is so undesirable about cam/head work (and how much $) to make them less driveable?

Late,

TK

Well, any NA modifications will cost more money than FI since there is more work involved.
Camshaft, itself will not make the car less driveable but it's the camshaft profile. Say if you want high horsepower from a cam then you would want something that provides higher lift and longer duration at higher RPM when compared to stock cam. During high RPM it's fine but when driving around town where air intake isn't travelling as fast, say as 6000 RPM, then the engine will have a hard time compressing the intake charge; therefore, you loose power and throttle response.
Please keep in mind that with the "modified" profile there is more overlapping to increase to ram air effect.

STamulinas · 5th January 2007, 07:35

Hi TK:
Welcome to the Board. I usually get together with Al and a few other
members of the Board once a month for lunch or dinner in or around
Minneapolis. We are always looking for new recruits no matter what
make or model you drive. In the winter we usually just meet socially.
In the Spring Al puts together some very entertaining drives. If you are
interested, PM me and I'll be sure and let you know when and where
we will be meeting this month.
stacey