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Old 12th April 2006, 20:46   #1
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Mercedes Benz Strikes Back - E63 AMG

Looks pretty hot...won't handle like the ///M5...but it certainly is fast.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm...-benz-e-63-amg
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Old 12th April 2006, 20:56   #2
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Very slick...

I had heard that they were going to debut the E63 in NYC. Looks like a much better deal. 7 speeds now...very curious to know how it really performs.
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Old 12th April 2006, 21:00   #3
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Yep. Normally aspirated, too. Just like BMW.

My sense is that the differences will continue, ie the MB will be faster than the BMW on a 0-60 run but will be less of a driver's car from a handling perspective.

Between the two, I prefer handling over straight line acceleration.
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Old 12th April 2006, 21:02   #4
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My only concern with this is the speed factor. Granted you can buy a lambo or other car that would be quicker, but we're talking about a 4 door sedan (similar to our beloved M5) which has much more appeal to those looking for the sports car/responsible sedan combo... which many times means they have a family.

With that in mind, at what point will we reach enough speed and hp on this type of car? I'm not trying to imply that I'd rather have some guy die alone in a ferarri... but imagine when we start seeing whole families go that way because dad wanted to show off to his kids and lost control.

Of course many of you will say it's all about experience and knowing how to drive these cars, but let's be real... the majority of us have no real track time, etc... even I'm sometimes frightened by the power of my M5 (even if it comes with a big smile).

On a lighter note, I will say that I don't like the styling cues they've added to differentiate the car from the E55... especially those things that look like fish gills on the lower side part of the front bumper, near the wheel well. What can I say, even with my own SL55 in the garage, I'm still a BMW man 100%
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I agree. I think we all buy this car because of the driver-connectedness. Most people I have spoken to who own AMG are bored rather quickly by the car. Most BMW owners (myself included), are constantly and regularly surprised by the car's capabilities (recurrent grin factor)
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its gonna be intresting when they gonna twin turbo that engine. I heard it the torque will be limited first 2 gears.
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Those "fish gills" are rather unappealing imho. Personally, I think the E63 looks better than the M5 but probably more because the M5 simply still looks a few years ahead of its time. The E63 is more today, albeit starting to look a little dated now.

At least in my case, I drive my M5 very differently when my wife and son are in the car with me versus when I am driving alone to a meeting. I almost never use the M button when my family is in the car with me. I run P500, EDC0 and S5. But when I am driving alone, I run P500S, EDC2 and S5.

My sense is that the M5 and E63 are dual purpose for successful working people which probably explains why BMW offers so many choices for power, suspension and response settings.
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People buy the BMW for the driving experience. People buy the MB for the brand recognition.

Two very different markets, both very lucrative and both very real.

I would argue that BMW owners will stick with BMWs and MB owners will stick with MBs with a few exceptions where MB owners will shift to BMWs.

I think very few BMW owners shift to MBs, with the exception of the SLR and the SL which are simply too beautiful/stunning to ignore.
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Its a copy of the original, M5 only!

By the way did you notice the fold in the leather seat??? Sound fimilar?!

I would agree 2 different markets, people most often by Merc for the brand recognition, BMW for the driving experience.


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Looks like BMW had it right to begin with on the new M5. High revving, lower torque engine with a 7 speed tranny. Looks like MB is following right in line.

I'll guess the E63 could be a bit quicker in a straight line, and they'll improve the handling and the feel quite a bit over the E55. Sounds like they're upping the ante - what will BMW do to respond??

This is nothing but good news for us car enthusiasts!
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