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Old 19th April 2003, 06:43   #11
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Also, there's something fun about being in the ugly, slow-looking car and walking away from the sexy, fast-looking one. Something about the showmanship of understatement. Or, put another way, speak softly and carry a big f'n stick.
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Old 19th April 2003, 07:59   #12
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Also, there's something fun about being in the ugly, slow-looking car and walking away from the sexy, fast-looking one.
Exactly why I sometimes theorize on building a '75-76 Nova sedan with one of these.

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Old 22nd April 2003, 01:11   #13
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Was back at the show Saturday, and was surprised to find that the silver CTS V that was there on Thursday had been changed to a Black one which looks quite nice imo. Here are a couple more pics for your perusal.





Lots of CF in the engine bay area


No handbrake in this car.


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Thanks Karman for clarifying the point about the lack of a hand brake.
It's just crazy that the Opal upon which the CTS is based would I'm sure have had a hand brake as standard, and now GM have idiotically deleted it in a high performance manual gearbox car. It's just indicative of their mind-set I guess, in that GM seem to be much more concerned with 'looks' than getting the small details right that enthusiasts really want/need. No wonder so much of their stuff is crap.
Strike one potential buyer off the list.
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They did however move the foot operated parking brake up higher and more to the left on the 04 CTS vs the 03. Notice how you can't even see it in the pic above.

So give them some credit for correcting their mistake - it's probably cost prohibitave to retool for a console mounted hand brake, moving the foot operated one so that it's out of the way is the next best thing.

I really like the CTS V, although I think in the looks department it is too tall and short to wear the Art & Science styling. But fast makes up for a whole lot of ugly

I like the interior, that's what you see the most of anyhow.
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The CTS is actually longer and no taller than an E39, and it's not based on an Opel - it's the first model pulled off an all-new clean-sheet-of-paper (well, clean-CAE-workstation) design.

The tall/short/narrow part is an optical illusion due to the stumpy shape.

They need to go look at the parking brake bits on the Jag S-type and (I think) Lincoln LS. They now use an electrically-operated parking brake controlled by a small handle in the console. In theory, at least, it's the best of both worlds, at the expense of more complexity.

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Yeah, it is an optical illusion, I just meant that as a general rule I prefer my cars long, low and wide in the looks department. And I think the edgy new Cadillac design looks better on an XLR, and makes the CTS look too short and stuby.


But that said, I still might buy one - In a couple of years I'll be cross shopping it with the new GTO, used M5's, XJR's, Corvettes, and 740i Sports.
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Six-lug hubs?

Has anyone else noticed the six-lug hubs on the CTS-V? I saw them and had to look again to make sure of what I saw, as this is quite an interesting move by GM. Would that make this the first "production" grade car to use six-bolt hubs compared to the usual five? Wonder what this will do to the aftermarket wheels...?
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The only other one I'm aware of is the Viper.

The engine-compartment pic looks like they had to relocate the coil packs - in the Corvette/Camaro the coil packs are on the valve covers. I guess that's what the box at the right front is.

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KRM5,

Just wanted to thank you for the CTS-V pics from the NY Auto Show.

Both the Silver and Black pics were terrific. Much better than the official pics. And as far as I know these were those first Unofficial CTS-V pics to appear on the internet.

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