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how can the R8 nurburgring time be slower than the fat RS4? these "official" nurburgring times mean nothing... there are way to many factors at play...

franki68

. Note that even on this list, you get varying performance for the same vehicle. So condition of track, vehicle, and driver skill and familiarity with the vehicle can all lead to different results. Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
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6:55* - 178.699 km/h - Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05)
7:12* - 173.600 km/h - Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:28 - 166.652 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl, (Autobild 07/04)
7:32* - 164.071 km/h – Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/ 1230 kg, (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:34 - 163.586 km/h - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05
7:36 - 162.631 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7.39* - 161.575 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:40 - 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40 - 161.217 km/h - Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40 - 161.217 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:42* - 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h - Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05), www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&mID=1384471&l=d
7:43 - 160.173 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:45* - 159.484 km/h - McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv
7:46 - 159.142 km/h - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:48 - 158.463 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=91836
7.49 - 158.124 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004), www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte/artikel.php?artikel_id=7274&artikel_seite=4
7:49 - 158.124 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:50 - 157.787 km/h - BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 - 157.787 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:52 - 157.119 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06), www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=0&tID=71646
7:52 - 157.119 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=92447
7:52 - 157.119 km/h - Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:54 - 156.456 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)
7:55 - 156.126 km/h - Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:55 - 156.126 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06), www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=67305
7:56 - 155.798 km/h - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 - 155.798 km/h - Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56.65 155.569 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:58 - 156.652 km/h - Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.php?f=10&i=16841&t=16841
7:59 - 154.822 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* - 154.822 km/h - Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 - 154.822 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 97)
7:59.41 154.690 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C “prototype” (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:01.72 153.984 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
8:02 - 153.858 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
8:03 - 153.540 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
8:04 - 153.223 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
8:05 - 152.907 km/h - Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
8:05 - 152.907 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=36440
8:06 - 152.592 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
8:09 - 151.656 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=87373
8:09 - 151.656 km/h - BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05), www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=63338
8:09 - 151.656 km/h - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
8:09 - 151.656 km/h - Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
8:09 - 151.656 km/h - Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 - 151.114 km/h - Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10.75 151.265 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:11 - 151,274 km/h - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* - 151,274 km/h - Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:12 - 150.732 km/h - Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 - 150.732 km/h - Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:13 - 150.426 km/h - BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=13956
8:13 - 150.426 km/h - Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:14 - 150.120 km/h - Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=23337
8:15 - 149.818 km/h – BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg, www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/64720/bmw_z4_m_roadster.html
8:15 - 149.818 km/h - Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05), www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=0&tID=46738
8:15 - 149.818 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:16.15 149.471 km/h - Honda NSX (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
8:17 - 149.215 km/h - Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 - 149.916 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 - 149.916 km/h - Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - BMW M3 E36, 321 hp (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 - 148.320 km/h - Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 - 147.749 km/h - Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h - Nissan Skyline R32 GTR (Best Motoring video “Carrera Invasion”)
8:23 - 147.435 km/h - Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:23 - 147.435 km/h - Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 - 147.143 km/h - Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360PS/1566kg (sport auto 04/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=31462
8:24 - 147.143 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)
8:25 - 146.851 km/h - Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)
8:25 - 146.851 km/h - Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)
8:26 - 146.561 km/h - Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03)
8:28 - 145.984 km/h - BMW M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99)
8:28 - 145.984 km/h - Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 - 145.984 km/h - Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98)
8:28.93 145.690 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992) “www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:29 - 145.697 km/h - Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00)
8:29 - 145.697 km/h - Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03)
8:31.- 145.130 km/h - 2006 CADILLAC STS-V, 440PS/1948 kg, www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101519
8:31.42 145.008 km/h - Ferrari F355, 380hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:32 - 144.844 km/h - Lotus Exige, 192hp (sport auto 08/04)
8:32 - 144.844 km/h - BMW M Roadster, 321 PS/1410 kg (sport auto 09/97)
8:32 - 144.844 km/h - BMW Z4 3.0 SMG, 231 PS/1396 kg (sport auto 05/03)
8:32 - 144.844 km/h - Porsche Boxster S, 252 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 12/99)
8:32 - 144.844 km/h - Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk. IV, 250 PS
8:33.80 144.336 km/h - Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine)
8:34 - 144.280 km/h - BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i, 231 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 04/01)
8:35 - 144.000 km/h - BMW M3 SMG E36, 321 PS/1515 kg (sport auto 03/97)
8:36 - 143.585 km/h - Porsche Boxster ´03, 228 PS/1370 kg (sport auto 02/03)
8:36.42 143.604 km/h - BMW M3 EVO, 321hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:37 - 143.443 km/h - Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
8:37 - 143.443 km/h - Honda NSX 3.0 (sport auto 07/91)
8:37.10 143.415 km/h - Nissan GTR V, 350 pS (Top Gear maagzine)
8:38 - 143.166 km/h - Honda NSX 3.2, 280 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 08/97)
8:38 - 143.166 km/h - Porsche 996 Carrera, 296hp
8:39 - 142.890 km/h - Honda S2000, 240 PS/1275 kg (sport auto 01/00)
8:40 - 142.615 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 PS/1505 kg (sport auto 07/97)
8:42 - 142.069 km/h - Audi S4, 265 PS/1592 kg (sport auto 08/98)
8:42 - 142.069 km/h - Audi TT 1.8 quattro w. ESP, 225 PS/1461 kg, (sport auto 07/01)
8:42 - 142.069 km/h - Lotus Exige, 179 PS/796 kg, (sport auto 11/00)
8:43 - 141.797 km/h - Honda Integra Type R (sport auto 12/00)
8:44.83 141.303 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette Coupe, 339 PS, automatic (Top Gear magazine)
8:46 - 140.989 km/h - Porsche 993 Carrera S, 285hp
8:47 - 140.721 km/h - Honda Civic Type-R, 200 PS/1246 kg (sport auto 11/01)
8:48.25 - 140.388 km/h - Porsche 911 Carrera, 285hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:49 - 140.189 km/h - Audi TT 1.8T quattro Coupé, 225 PS/1461 kg (sport auto 11/98)
8:51 - 139.661 km/h - Mercedes Benz C43 AMG, 306 PS/1571 kg (sport auto 12/01)
8:52 - 139.398 km/h - Mercedes Benz CLK 430, 279 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 09/01)
8:52 - 139.529 km/h - VW Golf GTI DSG, 200 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 11/05)
8:54 - 138.897 km/h - Porsche Boxster, 204 PS/1325 kg (sport auto 01/97)
8:55 - 134.579 km/h - Mini Cooper S Works, 200 hp (sport auto ??/04)
8:58 - 133.829 km/h - Lotus Esprit Turbo SE (sport auto 07/97)
9:07 - 135.576 km/h - Mercedes SLK 230, 195 PS/1356 kg (sport auto 05/01)

caspian65

Kinda leaves you with the question.. "Where's the beef?"

cazorp

Need no beef if there's brains instead

If you want beef, get a Dodge Charger -70 instead

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Ronin M5

Having test ridden on the Nordschleife, I think these figures mean a lot. As general indicators. Of course, like anything, there will be questions and variations in conditions, vehicle prep, tires - type and condition, weather, time of day, driver, etc.

No need to discredit the entire lineup, just because one time doesn't make sense. Just need more information...I agree, one would expect a mid engine R8 to outperform a relatively portly RS4.

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franki68

It isn't ..there are no proper times done for the R8 yet,but it has beaten the 997turbo,997gt3,lambo gallrdo and 430 on every track it has been on so far.

Also just read CAr magazine performance car of the year 2007..winnner is R8 and it got to within 1 second of a gt3rs and gallardo superleggra (both running on semi slicks) on their laps.
The Uk magazines are unaminous in their favourite performance car of the year.

SeverelyOpinionated

All these damn numbers!!!

34698 hp!
0-60 in 3.23525 seconds!
And the most important quantitative car-measurement ever... Nordschleife time! In 7.395835 minutes!

I guess in our day and age, it is really easy to compare cars by numbers, especially with this horsepower war. IMO, the only truly important number is the weight of the vehicle, which at 3400 pounds is not bad for a sports car.

Lets be a little more qualitative... not many of us have driven the R8. For me, I don't like the way Audi cars perform near the limit, but for daily or spirited driving, they are quite good. I liked the new Audi TT that I test drove extensively (for my girlfriend).

No offense in any way to the thread creator, but it really is slightly silly to ask people's opinions on a new car purchase; on a forum, or in any other way. Who cares what other people think? It isn't going to be their car, it is going to be yours! Here is how you know if you should buy it: go drive it- and if you feel you like it, and you must have it, then buy it. If you have any doubt, or feel you need convincing- it is not for you... then wait for the next new thing to come along, which in our day and age, will be in 1 1/2 weeks. Repeat procedure.

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franki68

the r8 is the best handling car at the limit out there,which is why its winning so many awards and fast becoming a legend.

cazorp

First, numbers are good - they give you a hint, not the hole truth, but at least a hint.

Second of all, "I dont like the way Audis handle" is not a very good measurment of R8, since this is something quite different - drive a Lamborghini or mid-engined Ferrari and you'll find it more comparable to R8 than any other Audi ever made..

And why shouldnt people have doubts about their purchases? Its a lot of money after all.. No, no one is going to buy an R8 just from what they've read in this thread, but its a good add-on to other impressions.

Finally writing in bold makes absolutely no sense to me

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Sebring NL

Agree 100% here.

I often sigh when I read a thread title like this. Ofcourse, its all good and cool to contemplate cars with boardmembers and its enjoyable.

But as soon as this starts to become some semi-scientific way of trying to prove which car you should get, I get the image of someone on one side being smart enough to have the money for such a machine but on the other hand not bright enough to make their own decisions.

Come on, its YOUR car. I can't remember the last time I went 0-100 flat out (not a boy racer) so I don;t really care if a car does that in 4 or 4,5 secs.

Ringtimes are also EXTREMELY subjective especially for someone in the US. You guys get the cheap gas, we get the Ring.

Let us know if you bought it and how it drives. That would be great.

Wout

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