R&T tests M5 vs CTS-V. M5 DCT runs 0-60 in 3.6 sec!
Very compelling test of both manual and DCT versions of the M5 vs the CTS-V in this month's R&T. DCT M5 hits 60 mph in 3.6 seconds - unbelievable! Quarter mile in 11.9 @ 119.7. The manual pretty much annihilated the CTS-V on the track, and the DCT would be even quicker. Very impressive.
That article did not help the M5.
After reading it, along with the other recent comparisons (C&D, Autofil), I pretty much ruled out the F10 M5 for my next car...
I'm quoting member Sleeptight from the bimmerpost forums as I have not ever owned nor plan to own a CTS-V.
"It's a very good comparison. And, of course, it's closer than many here would have been willing to admit. The CTS-V's simpler, less sophisticated approach makes an excellent contrast--spotlighting all the strengths and weaknesses of the F10 M5.
I will note that R&T's decision to obtain the rarest of rare M5s with a manual transmission in order to go manual to manual with the almost equally rare Cadillac Tremec TR-6060 six-speed appears to be an attempt to skew the results. A comparison of the M5's 7-speed MDCT with the V's ancient (and achingly slow) GML80 6-speed automatic would have resulted in a far greater point total for the M5.
Now before you all go leaping to the defense of the M5, let me tell you that my 2010 CTS-V is essentially identical to the 2012 CTS-V test vehicle (with the exception of the aforementioned manual transmission) and I've had a deposit down and been waiting for a production number on an M5 since April. Why did I do that when I already own a car that's 95% of what the M5 is with an interest free loan courtesy of the American taxpayer? Simple, because I can afford the best, and the M5 is that. As a day-to-day driver and an incredibly sophisticated luxury sedan that also happens to double as a close to full-tilt race car when I get bored, there is no comparison--the M5 is the King.
I love what the V stands for as GM's last desperate attempt to take on the world's best prior to bankruptcy and somehow pulling it off, and I still get a big grin on my face when I put my foot down in the V. But I can't wait to trade in my V and drive off in my new M5."
So yeah, while I respect the CTS-V and what it has accomplished as well as other cars that are cheaper and faster, i.e. GTR; I want the BEST, and as Sleeptight said, THE F10 M5 IS THAT!
"You can't make an E60 M5 like this no matter what you do. I don't mean that in a negative way. It is just a completely different type of car."
M5Board Member: Coldlist
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member of the E60 M5 200mph club. Future Member of the F10 M5 200mph club.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dyno-Jet Dyno results: Best Run = 549whp and 512wtq. The only horsepower mods I have right now are the Charcoal Filter Delete and RPi GTM (Straightpipe) Exhaust.
So yeah, while I respect the CTS-V and what it has accomplished as well as other cars that are cheaper and faster, i.e. GTR; I want the BEST, and as Sleeptight said, THE F10 M5 IS THAT!
To be fair though, and I'm playing Devil's advocate here (as I personally think M5's are the best and will shut my eyes and scream it loudly even if another manufacturer comes out with a better car), I really wouldn't expect you to say the M5 is anything but the best (or post any posts of quotes of posts that indicate otherwise) after you just plunkered down X amount of money to buy one.
That article did not help the M5.
After reading it, along with the other recent comparisons (C&D, Autofil), I pretty much ruled out the F10 M5 for my next car...
Really? It helped me decide that I want an M5. Ordered a Sept production car.
So yeah, while I respect the CTS-V and what it has accomplished as well as other cars that are cheaper and faster, i.e. GTR; I want the BEST, and as Sleeptight said, THE F10 M5 IS THAT! [/color]
The 2013 GT-R is actually similarly priced to the F10 M5, but is A LOT FASTER than the M5.
Those are two totally different cars. If that's your angle, you can get a Superlite Kit Car and pay about 1/2 of the GTR and smoke it all day long. I recently purchased my M5 e60 from a gent that moved into a 2013 GTR. We have become friends and talk frequently. He says the GTR is completely "raw and unrefined". Yes, it's fast but lacks all the creature comforts he has come to expect from the M5. He said the stereo is absolute crap / bluetooth looses sync / seats are uncomfortable / cabin noise too high / and the sheer amount of rattles, pings, and other unwanted noised are intolerable. He summed it up as the M5 doesn't do any one thing the best but does everything extremely well. It all depends on what you are looking for.
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