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Old 4th October 2011, 06:10   #1
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M5 engine in an X5M?

Is there a possibility that the 2013 X5M would get the same engine that M5 has? The M5's engine afterall is a spin-off the X5M's engine.
Just wondering out loud here if it'd be worth waiting for a 2013 X5M model vs 2012.

Any thoughts appreciated...
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Old 4th October 2011, 10:20   #2
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I don't think they will change the engine on the X5M until the new model comes out.

In any case, it will not be the same as the M5.
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Nope. The M5 will always be faster, unless maybe between (at very end of old car and very beginning of new car) of model years between the two cars.


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yes, that's true the M5 will always be faster than the X5M simply by the virtue of the 1000lbs difference, even if the X5M did get the M5's engine.

i'm just curious why the X5M won't get at least the new M5's 7spd transmission, since it has an "old" 6spd. that would, hopefully, help some with the mileage. it would also be some progress for the X5M, since the new cayenne turbo is starting to pose some stiff competition.
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The X5M is an SUV, so it requires different gearing.

The Cayenne Turbo still has the old fashioned auto tranny.
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Although Porsche Cayenne GTS only came in a standard 6-speed, so it can be done.
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Isn't X5M an automatic and the M5 the DKG? I bet it has to do with many factors including the weight and fitment to the xDrive AWD system.
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"6-speed M Sport Automatic transmission with Adaptive Transmission Control (ATC); Drive, Sport and M Manual shift modes" - from the bmwusa.com on the X5M transmission

"The Getrag seven-speed dual-clutch automatic, a reinforced version of the M3’s optional unit, is geared tall, with a double overdrive and a 3.15:1 final drive, to save fuel and take advantage of the engine’s power curve" - from the carandriver.com first review

So, basically, the 7spd DCT that's found in the new M5 is more than capable handling all that power, so there is no reason why they couldn't use it in X5M, unless, of course, the AWD and gearing pose a lot of problems.

I wonder when the engine gets improvements of the X5M's S63 to M5's S63TU then what's the reason why not to use the "improved, renewed" S63TU in the X5M? It wouldn't ever pose a competition to M5's performance and really would never be meant to be that anyway.
Sort of like the AMGs when they dropped the naturally aspirated 6.3L V8 in favor of the 5.5LTT V8 and they started with one model and now it's spread to several AMG models.

I figure all these engine improvements would be for the sake of improved perfomance and economy...
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good info whats the new M5 cost?
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the new m5 should cost around 90K per various sources.
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