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Old 15th July 2011, 20:56   #11
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With all due respect I don't understand how you can be disappointed in a car that is not out yet? I have enjoyed each iteration of the M5, including the past 5 and half years of my E60. I will get an F10 M5 and make my assessment after some time passes. If it doesn't measure up, as you are sure it will not, then off to a Panamera Turbo !

Give it a change - BMW has not disapointed me with any M5 since my first in 1988.
If you're addressing this to me, I am not disappointed. I was merely pointing out someone who was because the new M5 wouldn't have the top speed he had been hoping for, which is what we are discussing.
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Old 15th July 2011, 21:00   #12
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I take my hat off to you IF you are able to exploit the E60 M5's top end, here in the UK it's licence suicide if caught over 100 MPH.

So it's a blast on an empty road with one eye behind and one in front for a short time, not the kind of driving you can sustain.
It's license suicide in the U.S. if you get caught doing over 100mph too.... that's not to say that people don't do it. There are a lot of empty stretches of highway in parts of the United States and other parts of the world, where coupled with a radar detector, you're good to go.

There are car owners who live in Germany or can drive the Autobahn who also do care. As of now, there are still unrestricted parts of the Autobahn, so until that changes, top speed will be of importance to some people who live there as well.

Part of what I was trying to convey was this. Very few who drive an M5 care about 0-60mph or 0-100km times. They moreso care about 70-130mph times, etc, knowing that this car is a highway monster and really shines there.

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Old 15th July 2011, 22:31   #13
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You make me laugh, Reputable Magazine Name one ?.

If top speed were the main criteria they would not sell many now would they!!, even germany are talking of speed limits on the autobahn being introduced to the unrestricted parts, so were will you use it then?.

Again get real.
Autocar for one. Sport Auto! Road and Track isn't half bad either. That makes three at least. For now while the autobahn is still unrestricted in those sections, there will always be top speed runs and whatnot.

Even a bunch of people here in the United States are willing to take their cars to triple digits speeds.

So...what is your arguement again?

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Old 16th July 2011, 07:47   #14
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Top car!
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It's license suicide in the U.S. if you get caught doing over 100mph too.... that's not to say that people don't do it. There are a lot of empty stretches of highway in parts of the United States and other parts of the world, where coupled with a radar detector, you're good to go.

There are car owners who live in Germany or can drive the Autobahn who also do care. As of now, there are still unrestricted parts of the Autobahn, so until that changes, top speed will be of importance to some people who live there as well.

Part of what I was trying to convey was this. Very few who drive an M5 care about 0-60mph or 0-100km times. They moreso care about 70-130mph times, etc, knowing that this car is a highway monster and really shines there.
Points taken
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I think some people are combining top speed with highway performance. I agree that in the US, 70-120mph speed is very important to some people. And yes, most of us can say we've been up to, maybe over the 120mph mark. However, this doesn't necessarily relate to top speed.

For a given engine HP, the maximum speed comes down to aerodynamics and gearing. Why would anyone want a car with gearing and aero designed to hit 207 mph, when with better gearing and more downforce, the car only hits 198 mph but would be more responsive and stable? In fact, designing a car for maximum top speed would compromise it's highway performance. From this standpoint, I have to agree that top speed is not important and really shouldn't be a performance consideration for cars driven on the street.
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mmmmm Toll roads Top speed IS important, it's even more important in Germany where the car is made where it is perfectly legal to drive around all day (ok stopping ta several petrol stations) at 200mph. Having gone there twice a year for last 3 years I'd be might unhappy to be cruising at a dull 180mph!
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How many of you actually have tires/tyres that can sustain TOP SPEED runs? Come on, get real, people. E60 is great at high speed, but we all know it sucks at low RPM. F10 is great at low RPM, that doesn't mean it must suck at high speed. Hopefully the F10 managed to put the torquey low end of the E39 and screaming top end of the E60 into one package!
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How many of you actually have tires/tyres that can sustain TOP SPEED runs? Come on, get real, people. E60 is great at high speed, but we all know it sucks at low RPM. F10 is great at low RPM, that doesn't mean it must suck at high speed. Hopefully the F10 managed to put the torquey low end of the E39 and screaming top end of the E60 into one package!
Not with a nasty paracetic power sucking all wheel drive system it won't , I still think an E660 at high speed will pass it just like an E60 passes gallardos and GTRs
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